Twitter Testing Non-Chronological Timelines (vice.com)
sarahnaomi writes with this excerpt from Motherboard: Brace yourself, because your favorite social media platform might get turned on its head: Twitter is experimenting with a new way of sorting your timeline that breaks with the reverse-chronological format it has used since its inception. Certain users have already been selected for testing, and a Twitter search for "timeline out of order" revealed a lot of confused Tweeters. A Twitter spokesperson confirmed via email that this is "an experiment. We're continuing to explore ways to surface the best content for people using Twitter." Presumably, Twitter is working with algorithms similar to the ones Facebook uses to order items on your News Feed.
I curse the name of Zuckerberg each time I realize that my view of Facebook has been switched from "Most Recent" to "Top Stories" -- Top Stories according to whom?
Do not question the masters. Going against the narrative will only get you flagged for suspicion of being too white or to male.
It should be configurable.
If I want it reverse-chronological format the I should be able to set that and not have it changed. If twitter wants to offer a bunch of other configuration options then they should be configurable as well.
Same with Facebook, if I pick Most Recent then leave it Most Recent.
Non-chronological timelines sounds like something out of Dr Who.
I think the big problem here is the world feels it needs to get all breathless and concerned over Twitter changing this.
On behalf of those of us who have never used Twitter ... whatever. Do let us know if they change the font, too.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
An option to see everything since last checked from oldest to newest.
For that last note: on Facebook, "Most Recent" isn't actually the most recent posts at all. A couple things are happening. Firstly, it is the "Most recently interacted with", meaning if something is commented on, it jumps to the front of the line. Next, Facebook selects aprox 320 posts to show each user, with new content appearing every now and then, and content being removed after about 24-72 hours. Even if you follow 1000 pages posting once a day, Facebook will only select the aprox 320 that it thinks you want. From here, "Most Recent" then only becomes the most recent of this smaller selection, not all posts from your potential feed. So when Facebook switches between "Top Stories" and "Most Recent", you're honestly not getting anything new/different between the two, just sorting smaller segment of your feed that it deems you should be able to view.
What did all you twitter people think was going to happen to a free site? They have to make money somehow, and putting 'top stories' in front of your eyes is a good way of doing that.
So don't get all your panties in a bunch.
Those of us who never used twitter don't care.
Those who do, if it matters, then find another mass social media 'thing'.
Remember, twitter doesn't 'belong to the world', it belongs to twitter and they can do what they want with their systems.
Problem 1: they don't keep track across devices. If I log in from one web browser and see new notifications, it's not uncommon for me to then log on via a different web browser half a day later and some of those notifications are back to being new again. Bah. What does this have to do with this "news" from TFA? Apparently I was part of the "test group" unfortunately, because I've been getting this out-of-order crap for a long while. If I check twitter from my phone in the morning and catch up on everything, then in the evening I have to wade through a lot of "while you were away" crap that was posted days ago despite my having logged on hours before, and then I can't find what was actually posted since the last time I was logged on...that's not "confusion." That's a mix of "completely idiotic UX," "very poor backend tracking of what has already been viewed," and "extremely poor guesses as to what I might be interested in, elevating feeds in which I'm only marginally interested while obfuscating those in which I have a lot of interest." I suspect that third one has to do with how many likes/whatever the person has, but...sometimes people are interested in someone for different reasons. I follow comedians, and if personX is funnier than personY, but personY looks awesome in a bikini, then that doesn't mean I want you to blare personY's posts at me and hide personX's posts... I'm in SoCal, if I want to see a really fit girl in a bikini, I walk outside and look in any direction.
If this happens to my account, I'm calling Twitter out on it. I hate this behavior from Facebook, to the point that I don't even go to the site anymore. If I wanted anything other than most recent at the top, I'd set that myself. Not let some half-wit algorithm dictate what's most relevant in respect to my social media experience. I want to be the half-wit in charge of what's most relevant on my Twitter and Facebook timelines.
The Amarri pray for god, the Caldari pray for profit. the Gallente pray for peace, but the Minmatar pray their ships hol
Isn't it a bit ironic, don't you think, for there to be a slashdot discussion about a website that dramatically changes a loved posting and discussion format, into one that is widely despised, despite overwhelming feedback against the change? I remember back when I could see, in my profile, how many responses my posts had...and could easily find and respond to them...and when I wasn't given a teeny tiny little box into which to type my responses, with an entire empty webpage staring at me in all the other directions of the screen. And and and...get off my lawn, you damn kids! ;)
Certain users have already been selected for testing, and a Twitter search for "timeline out of order" revealed a lot of confused Tweeters. A
The summary is perpetuating the fundamentally flawed notion that the people who tweet, read tweets and re-tweets are the "users". The fact of the matter is they are the "used"s. The site twitter.com is the user, the tweeters are the useds. Sooner we get used to the notion, sooner we make all understand this relationship, better it would be for all.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
As opposed to uncertain users, I guess...
All good things come to an end. I'm convinced of this. Nothing cool like Twitter can exist long before idiots try to ruin it.
This is making me less excited about new sites and tech as I get older because I know that if I use it and get to love it, it will be ruined right under my nose. Kinda depressing, no?
Another example is the Music app on iOS. It was beautiful and perfect, and Apple f**ked it all up and made it ugly, overly complex and glitchy.
Nothing good lasts forever.
"ways to surface the best content" - yet another piece of market-speak. Hint - if you have to resort to market-speak, you're doing a sh*tty job somewhere along the line.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
I don't think this will really affect me since I comment on about three different Twitter handles but I don't really read anyone else's. (However I do tend to look when someone mentions or favorites a tweet or sends me a direct message.)
I've been having a bit of a problem following Dr. Who's Twitter timeline... can you help me out?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Wikipedia: "Chronology (from Latin chronologia, from Ancient Greek , chronos, "time"; and -, -logia) is the science of arranging events in their order of occurrence in time."
It keeps doing this on my timeline. When I change it, it asks "Did you like this?" No matter how many times I hit no...they just keep doing it. I miss the days when services were something you paid for, and you were a customer instead of a product.
They just need a 2-column setup.... current posts on one side, or one pane, and "important"/interesting posts in the other.
Plenty of space for it in the main twitter web page, mobile people may have to swipe left or right between screens... Tweetdeck could do it simply...
up 12 days, 22:30, 2 users, load averages: 993.20, 994.21, 994.56
*makes note to limit user processes...
Is that like that water free water?
Unsorted alphabetical list?
How much does it cost to make my post more important?
perhaps they are using this as a theme song??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
We haveTop Men working on it.
Top. Men.
But have you managed to get this far without Erris, Mactrope, gnutoo, inTheLoo, willeyhill, westbake, Odder, ibane, deadzero, freenix, myCopyWrong, right handed, GNUChop, and the rest of the gang?
You get a digest of "most popular posts from your feeds since you last checked". Then the full feed. Plus a sprinkling of ads that resemble your feeds intermixed.
I think the idea is to put your microblog on Pump or GNU Social and mirror that to Twitter. It's what @fsf does.
From a usability engineering perspective, people who sign up for a Twitter account are its users. This includes @Erris, @gnutoo, @inTheLoo, @westbake, @Odder, @ibane, @deadzero, @freenix, @right_handed, and @trimmer.* But from a business perspective, they are not its customers; advertisers are.
* Why these accounts?
How much does it cost to make my post more important?
At the bottom of every page on Twitter is a link to Ads info, which teaches how Promoted Tweets work.
This post was first but Slashdot is trying out a new ordering system
So.........Facebook.
However, I agree with "I curse the name of Zuckerberg each time I realize that my view of Facebook has been switched from "Most Recent" to "Top Stories" -- Top Stories according to whom?"
Maybe they should have changed the title
People using Facebook already receive information censored by Facebook. You get what they want you to see so that they can shape your view of the world. If you don't agree with the progressive agenda, you soon will.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
When you put all your pages and/or friends into a list, you will see EVERYTHING they post in reverse chronological order. Much better than the unpredictable news feed.
What is this non-chronological time you're talking about? Something like dreamtime? Cyclic time?
Twitter has the most disfunctional endless scroll ever. In the app as on the web.
You scroll, you retweet, you fave, it jumps back to top. You try to scroll back down and need to wait for reloading of the tweets in between, because they vanished.
Not that reverse chronical endless scroll would be useful anyway. You scroll down until you catched up (backwards, why?!), then you jump up to unfold new tweets and start scrolling down. Repeat.
They should have a feature "chronical endless scroll from where i stopped reading".