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Quantum Computer Security? NASA Doesn't Want To Talk About It (csoonline.com)

itwbennett writes: At a press event at NASA's Advanced Supercomputer Facility in Silicon Valley on Tuesday, the agency was keen to talk about the capabilities of its D-Wave 2X quantum computer. 'Engineers from NASA and Google are using it to research a whole new area of computing — one that's years from commercialization but could revolutionize the way computers solve complex problems,' writes Martyn Williams. But when questions turned to the system's security, a NASA moderator quickly shut things down [VIDEO], saying the topic was 'for later discussion at another time.'

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  1. I don't see why this is a story by chispito · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a news conference and they likely weren't prepared to field security questions. That doesn't mean the security is lacking. It just isn't what they were there to talk about.

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    1. Re:I don't see why this is a story by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's simpler than that. Quantum computing in this scale is in the area of heavy research, with a huge blanket of unknown unknowns; security is about mapping out your known and unknown unknowns and turning them into known resolvable state. You can't discuss security in this field yet because you have to discuss how the system *does* behave and how to ensure it *reliably* follows that behavior in the face of any and all unknown input states.

    2. Re:I don't see why this is a story by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2

      It's a news conference and they likely weren't prepared to field security questions. That doesn't mean the security is lacking. It just isn't what they were there to talk about.

      That, and also they did field the security question. The answer to the question was ""It's behind various security firewalls, with RSA security tokens to get in," said David Bell, a director at the Universities Space Research Association".

      The headline here is very misleading.

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    3. Re:I don't see why this is a story by ripvlan · · Score: 2

      This is such a bullshit making a mountain from a molehill article. The moderator did not "quickly shut things down" - the above OP is crap.

      "Hi - we're here to talk about the new Ford Mustang" --- Question: "What do you think of the decision to use Aluminum in the F150 frame?" "uh - yeah - great idea, lots of interesting engineering problems to solve ... Next Question"

      You are Correct. If you listen to the Video the host answers the question asked - but says effectively "this isn't what we came to talk about" - and continues to do his best to answer the question anyhow. After that the moderator comes on and says that this is off topic and further questions will be taken offline.

      While I agree that security should be thought of from the get-go, they came to talk about something specific. the OP pulled a 10 second clip and skewed it.

  2. Hmmm . . . related to IBM grant? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm wondering if this fits in with this story about a quantum computing grant for IBM, as well: http://www.zdnet.com/article/i...

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  3. Re:What you don't know can't hurt us ? by chispito · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ahhh well, just another phase in the evolution of NASA from a can do engineering organization, to a can't do political pork barrel.

    What the hell are you talking about? Nobody used that phrase but you. Watch the video. He gives a reasonable answer, and then they try to steer the questioning to other topics so it doesn't get bogged down.

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  4. NASA moderator quickly shut things down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    The "NASA moderator quickly shut things down?"

    Watch the video. Who gives a fuck?

    By shutting it down during questions about security, it could mean they don't have any more prepared answers and don't want to talk about it. That's not what the press event was for. csoonline's headline is making it sound like the questioner was asking Dangerous Questions About Black-Op Shit We're Not Supposed To Talk About.

    1. Re:NASA moderator quickly shut things down by Tailhook · · Score: 2

      The press conference had to do with this D-Wave quantum computing system and its capabilities. It was not a forum for hashing out general security questions. The reporters question wasn't specific to D-Wave or anything in particular; just "government computers". And the panel didn't "shut down" anything, either.

      This is another low quality click-baity "story" like that Intel-AMD crap that got posted yesterday.

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  5. Re:What you don't know can't hurt us ? by ls671 · · Score: 2

    Nah, it is just because quantum computing is relativistic therefore, nothing they may say will always be true, it always depends of the user point of vue... ;-)

    http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/...

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  6. as a nasa scientist i can explain. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a scientist working with quantum computing I can explain exactly why we dont talk about security and quantum computing. Last month we executed a security benchmark against it, and unfortunely the act of measuring the system security managed to accidentally change the entire quantum computer into a loaf of artisinal bread. We worked hard to change it back, by attempting to measure how inseucure the device was, but in turn only managed to collapse the waveform and ended up with a loaf of bread that was also a quantum computer. Weve not been entirely truthful with the public about this in the past but we can assure you that once we assemble what our team is tentatively referring to as a wheel of quantum swiss and a quantum superposition of 3 kinds of smoked meat, this hamiltonian evolution of delicious cold cut should get us back to a regular quantum computer. security concerns so far are centered around penetration attacks, and keith on the second floor trying to use the quantum artisinal loaf for a peanut butter and banana (regular, not quantum) sandwich.

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    1. Re:as a nasa scientist i can explain. by kheldan · · Score: 2

      No, YOU are the troll here, because everyone knows that quantum computing uses cats with buttered toast strapped to their backs! That, plus ferrets with perpetual IV drips of Rockstar as bus transceivers.

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  7. Re:gentlemen, start your conspiracy theorizing... by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 2

    NSA + ALEX = ANAL SEX

  8. Not dealing with the real issue by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This doesn't really deal with the real issue, the fact that the vast majority of what D-Wave is doing is complete hype with a very tiny chance of having any practical impacts. It isn't even clear that the type of problems D-Wave's machines can handle are problems where we should expect any substantial speedup from quantum computers. D-Wave's latest attempt at claiming that their computers show noticeable speedup is less lacking than some of their previous claims, but still not at all impressive. See Scott Aaronson's blog post http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2535 where he notes that the D-Wave machine both doesn't give any apparent asymptotic speedup and is beaten by the best classical computers. The real question isn't security but why NASA is wasting money on this instead of more promising quantum computing research.

  9. Re:What you don't know can't hurt us ? by murdocj · · Score: 2

    Yeah, if you actually bother to take 2 minutes to watch the video, it doesn't match the "NASA moderator shut discussion down" description at all. This is just an attempt to generate controversy where there is none.