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LionsGate Wants Pirate Sites To Pay For 'Expendables' 3 Leak (torrentfreak.com)
An anonymous reader writes: During the summer of 2014, the movie studio LionsGate suffered a major setback when a high quality leak of the then-unreleased Expendables 3 film appeared online. Fearing a massive loss in revenue, the movie studio sued the operators of several websites that allegedly failed to remove the infringing files. Over the past year there has been little progress in the case as most of the accused site operators failed to respond to LionsGate's complaint. In a new filing at the California district court, LionsGate indicates a desire to move forward by asking for a default judgment against the operators of LimeTorrents and the (already defunct) Dotsemper and Swankshare sites. Previously LionsGate settled with the operator of video hosting service Played.to.
I think theft of art is a serious crime. Good thing no such crime was committed here.
anyways so who cares.
LionsGate Wants Pirate Sites To Pay For 'Expendables' 3 Leak (torrentfreak.com)
LionsGate should be paying anyone willing to make a copy or watch of this thing their weight in gold. This is a really bad movie, but it doesn't quite make it to the "so bad that it's actually funny" category.
A "high quality leak" of any Expendables film is inconceivable.
When looking at different countries, the loss of revenue compared to the previous titles was inversely proportional to the rate at which it was pirated.
Also, the movie still netted them a bunch of money, despite most critics agreeing that it was shit.
They should pay for peoples counseling after watching such a heinous waste of film.
just like "burner" cellphones. take the money and run.
Still haven't watched it though. I just like hoarding media.
1. I've never heard of Expendables 2 /sequel/?
2. The first one sucked. Why would I expect improvement in a
3. Make better movies that people will actually go to, Lionsgate.
For fucks sake, the number of films from Hollywood that have been worth seeing in the past decade has been dismal.
>looks at list of movies from Lionsgate
Texas Chainsaw 3D? Really? Who the fuck at Lionsgate gave /that/ the green light?
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You should pay us to watch that.
I just know it would have broken all manner of box office records if not for the fact that a few people were able to watch it on the small screen a couple of days before the theatrical release.
Seriously we were looking at some Avatar like numbers here, I'm sure.
Because they lost their ass on paying high price actors for a flaming piece of shit. This is their last ditch effort before folding and going out of business.
After wasting 2 hours watching it you owe me $127 for those two hours.
That should end the problem once and for all, just like drugs and terror!
Its not a bad idea really. But I seriously doubt those companies have enough assets to reimburse all the viewers of that drek for what they went through. Still, LionsGate's shouldn't have to be the ones paying all those pain and suffering costs, because they weren't the ones who leaked it.
And of course nobody was stupid enough to pay for Expendables 3 in theaters, so LG is off the hook there.
Pirates, next time please be responsible.
Our business model relies on our ability to DUPE theater goers into thinking the movie will be GREAT!! when in fact, it is actually shit on a screen!
Pre-release exposure of our product prevents us from selling shit on a screen as if it were GREAT!!, which impacts our bottom line!
We DEMAND restitution from these groups that leaked our shit product, revealing it for the shit that it is!
So they had projections and metrics on how many copies were downloaded and extrapolate how many people 'should' have bought it - then can calculate how much money they're owed, simple right?
Not quite. Great movies get great revenue numbers regardless of leaks, because people want to see it in droves - shit movies getting leaked of course does damage to their revenue, because people find out that the movie blows massively and avoid wasting their money on it at theatres. Make better movies LionsGate, and revenue will return, ffs.
But it doesn't matter. The studio said "hey, they owe us money," and nobody showed up to disagree. That's what default judgments are about--if someone doesn't show up to court, they tend to lose. There are some exceptions, mostly related to cases where the court doesn't have jurisdiction and somebody realizes that later.
I believe a lot of landlord-tenant cases are won this way. (The landlord shows up or pays someone to show up and the tenant doesn't bother, so regardless of whether the tenant has a legal reason why he should win, he loses.)
... then I'd like to be king of all Londinium and wear a shiny hat. There's more chance of that happening than getting any real coin out of pirates.
It probably dived at the box office so they want to extort anyone and everyone they can.
I hope they win and get awarded $1 in damages. Rounded up, of course.
It sounds to me like Lionsgate wants money for nothing. I mean how can you be expected websites to respond to Liongate's threats when those web sites no longer even exist? From the article:
"Fearing a massive loss in revenue the movie studio sued the operators of several websites that allegedly failed to remove the infringing files."
Don't you have to sue for actual damages (phony RIAA/MPAA accounting not withstanding)?
the person who leaked it?
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
There is a high quality version of Expendables 3 in existence?
Where? More importantly, how is that possible altogether? Did the pirates reshoot the movie, maybe even with actors? And a script that's longer than a letter page?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Why should anyone but Lionsgate pay for their own shitty security policies? You don't vet your people and plan your stuff, you deserve to get fucked and nobody else. Welcome to the real world.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
...going after the employee or contractor that leaked it in the first place? It wasn't some pirate hacker that put the high-quality rip out there to begin with! Assholes!
The accused probably didn’t respond because they watched the movie and committed suicide afterward.
I never heard of any of them. Thanks for the heads-up, I'll continue ignoring that should I stumble upon it.
If there was a high quality version of Expendables 3 available, why didn't they release that one in the theaters instead of the crappy version?
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..to pay me back for my 1980 Chevette in mint condition that was stolen from downtown. I filed a police report and my claim was denied because I left the keys in the ignition.
My insurance company said they don't insure for losses caused by the insured's lack of diligence to prevent the loss.
Possiby Lionsgate needs a few tigers at the gate?
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Expendables was fine. It was a dumb movie and more than a little hamfisted, but for those who were adults in the 80s and 90s and watched Arnie et al movies, it was a pleasant trip down memory lane for that form of crude action movie.
Expendables 2 was crap.
Expendables 3 only warranted watching to see if it was worse than 2. So to an extent, they would have lost revenue because nobody would need to see it to find out how crap it is compared to 2. If Gigli were leaked, how many people would have saved the trip to the theatre and the walk out early to text to the line "YOU SHOULD NOT PASS!"? But should they have got their money back for the excrement that was that movie? Hell yes. So the movie stole from the customers.
And if there's no risk to the investment, what the hell is the justification for profiting in the investment? Those who spend time and effort working on it deserve their pay (or at least SOME pay), but merely ponying up the money when you want it guaranteed to get it all back, what the hell is profiting from it for? YOU did no work, YOU took no risk, YOU don't deserve to extract money from the people who DID work or the customers who could have had reduced ticket prices.
If there's risk, then profit or loss is how you can weed out those who don't deserve to gain because they have no skill or acumen in the task. Those who can choose well will profit, those who choose poorly will lose. If there's no "lose" option, then there's nothing to being crap at your "job" of investor.
Profit by racketeering, ...
So....just so we're clear...
They were worried about Expandables 3 losing revenue? If they were worried about that they wouldn't have made it in the first place....
that is great!!
How can there be a high-quality copy of an Expendables movie?