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How Much Is That Click, Clack Worth? (failuremag.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Most of us are now drowning in digital media, and the flood of information has robbed [us] of the ability to focus and concentrate—or do much of anything, uninterrupted, for an extended period of time. Perhaps this explains why a small but distinctive minority of people are now embracing decidedly old-fashioned technologies" like vinyl records, 35mm cameras, and the typewriter, the latter a strong "symbol of resistance against the over-digitization of our lives," as it was replaced by the personal computer. Of course, you're still not likely to see people committing public acts of typewriting, but you learn there's a surprising amount of fascinating things happening in the typewriting community if you consult The Typewriter Revolution, a new 'typist's companion' that covers everything from privacy issues (think: intelligence agencies using typewriters) to artistic endeavors (like the Boston Typewriter Orchestra) to the clever ways enthusiasts are bridging the typewritten and digital worlds (the USB Typewriter). In this interview with Richard Polt, the book's author answers the burning question: "Is it a Mad Max-ish world where people are scrounging for every [typewriter] ribbon they can get?

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  1. Don't type like my brother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't type like my brother

  2. Get off my Lawn! by eyepeepackets · · Score: 2

    I do something similar: I unplug the ethernet cord or disable the wireless connection except for those times when I actually need to use the internet. Old fashioned, I know, but then I was a BBS guy back in the 1980s and full-on connection is just silly-unnecessary for most people.

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    1. Re:Get off my Lawn! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      I unplug the ethernet cord or disable the wireless connection except for those times when I actually need to use the internet.

      That's nothing. I turn off my computer when I don't need to use the computer.

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  3. This is silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your life will be over-digitized (or whatever the right verb) only you allow it so. Nobody is forcing you to post your stuff (which nobody is interested in anyway) on Facebook, or to ask your buddy what he or she is up to in WhatsApp, or otherwise waste your time in any of the myriad ways in which you can do so these days. If you are stupid enough to fall for this junk, you will surely find other ways to waste your time even when it is not available.

    1. Re:This is silly by dinfinity · · Score: 2

      Your life will be over-digitized (or whatever the right verb) only you allow it so.

      This has nothing to do with over-digitization. This is about hipsters trying to rationalize their attention-seeking bullshit and intelligent entrepreneurs making shitloads of money off them.

      The fact that a USB 'typewriter' (effectively a keyboard shaped like a typewriter) is described as 'a clever way to bridge the typewritten and digital world' is the most obvious sign that it is about appearance, not substance; about form, not function.

  4. Kids are into retro by tompaulco · · Score: 2

    One of my girls asked for a typewriter and another one asked for an 8mm film camera.

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    1. Re:Kids are into retro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hope you slapped them both and told them to help their mother in the kitchen. Retro cuts both ways.

    2. Re:Kids are into retro by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      There is a very active 8mm community in the art world, doing some very interesting work. There's a guy where I live who does a good business processing Ektachrome. "Retro" is in the eye of the beholder.

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  5. Get a Commodore 64 instead by Brama · · Score: 2

    If privacy is that much of a concern, use something simple to understand and produce, while still reaping the benefits of digital word processing. Like a commodore 64. Very limited functionality compared to modern computers, but still more than adequate enough to do basic word processing. It's a giant step up from using a type writer, where you cannot even correct a simple typo without having to resort to physical correction.

    You could even go one step further and use something simple like a device that doesn't have a general purpose processor, but is hardwired to only do 1 task. Older serial terminals from the 70's like the of-vi-fame ADM-3a were built using nothing but simple TTL logic chips. Try writing a virus for that.

    Of course, the one thing this does not fix is social engineering.

  6. Books by AndyCanfield · · Score: 2

    I read constntly. As a child my mother would read to me. On the first day of school, I came home crying because they did not teach me how to read.

    I have two piles of books. I pick a book from the first pile, read it, and put it in the second pile. After 3-4 years the first pile is empty, the second is full, and I switch piles. It's hard to find good English language in Thailand. Mostly I read Louis L'Amour ("Guns Of The Timberlands"), also science fiction ("The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress"), Perry Mason ("The Girl With The Lucky Legs"), and John Grisham ("The Pelican Brief"). If you want to understand me, read "Ender's Game" (Andy's Geme).

  7. Oh, please! by tipo159 · · Score: 2

    I bought a typewriter this year. I became interested in how they work and did research on what models were considered the best portable manual typewriters in their day. I found one (Smith Corona Silent Super) at a rummage sale just before summer. It was $35. The local typewriter repair shop (yes, there is a local typewriter repair shop around here) estimated $160 to go through it, clean it up and replace the ribbon. The shop had a backlog of job, so they had it for two months. When they were done, they found that my typewriter was in better shape than expected, so the repair cost was closer to $120. And I was able to get 5 ribbons for $10 on eBay.

    Two side notes:

    1. The plastic-cladding on later Smith Corona typewriters take so long to remove (to reach the guts of the typewriter to do the actual servicing) that it raises the repair costs to the point of making repair uneconomical these days.

    2. The most common way that typewriters get damaged is by kids randomly hitting keys and bending the rods and levers inside the typewriters

    As far as film ... I worked in a photographic darkroom for years. I have a bunch of B&W film in the bottom of my refrigerator and powder mix for developer and fixer. I taught my oldest kid how to develop film and I will do the same with my younger kids as they get old enough to appreciate it. To me, there is some cool about making pictures with chemicals.

    As far as the Max Max future .. I am more concerned about film going away than typewriters (or typewriter ribbon) going away. Ribbons can be re-inked and many typewriter repairs are as simple as straightening a bent rod. Film photography, particularly color photography, require special chemicals that are hard to create without your own chemical factory.

    1. Re:Oh, please! by mlts · · Score: 2

      I went from the age of manual typewriters to IBM Selectrics to typewriters that had a few kilobytes of memory in them, to "word processors" to dot matrix printers, and so on.

      I still remember how annoying it was if filling out a form, even with a typewriter that allowed you to backspace and use a correction ribbon. I also don't miss the days of Liquid Paper/Wite-Out. Nor do I miss trying to precisely align the carriage.

      Manual typewriters may wind up a novelty, but I'd take a Mac Plus with an Imagewriter II printer any day, just for the ability to backspace, print out a copy when I so chose, correct work, or other things that are taken for granted.

      What would be a nice thing to have, would be a typewriter with a USB adapter so it can function as a LQ (letter quality) printer. In the early 1990s, there were a few Smith-Corona models which had a parallel port, and would work fine with a plain text printer driver.

      If I were worried about SHTF or post TEOTWAWKI, having a manual typewriter would be cool to have, as well as a number of ribbons stored in an airtight environment, as well as a re-inker.

      As for a re-inker, there is a market waiting for someone. It may not be much, but the niche is there. In the past, there was a device called a MacInker (was out before the Apple Macintosh was introduced), which automatically re-inked both black and color cartridges. It appears to be fairly simple, the hard part is the apparatus used to hold and turn the ribbon to keep tension on it. Definitely something that could be 3D printed if someone had an old MacInker and some calipers, and could measure all the parts.

    2. Re:Oh, please! by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      I went from the age of manual typewriters to IBM Selectrics to typewriters that had a few kilobytes of memory in them, to "word processors" to dot matrix printers, and so on.

      I still remember how annoying it was if filling out a form, even with a typewriter that allowed you to backspace and use a correction ribbon. I also don't miss the days of Liquid Paper/Wite-Out. Nor do I miss trying to precisely align the carriage.

      Manual typewriters may wind up a novelty, but I'd take a Mac Plus with an Imagewriter II printer any day, just for the ability to backspace, print out a copy when I so chose, correct work, or other things that are taken for granted.

      The point of using a typewriter these days is to eliminate the editing the comes with easy deleting. Very, very, very few people actually write a complete novel on a typewriter.

      However, there are two advantages to using a typewriter. First, it's unhindered - if you're brainstorming for ideas, the fact you can't delete means you can freeform a bunch of ideas onto the page. They can be eliminated later, but sometimes just getting it out there triggers the creative juices.

      The other benefit is on the opposite spectrum - because you can't easily edit, instead of rapidly typing things out at full speed, you type more deliberately - you engage your brain and think through what you're going to type before your fingers get busy on the page. And even then every keypress is deliberate and intentional.

      It's not for everyone, I mean it's like coding where you only get one chance to compile a day -you write your code then mentally revise it before submitting it. For some, this makes them a better coder because it's less trial and error and more "let's think it through first". And yes, it's not scalable - a big system is just impossible to understand or comprehend by one person.

      I also had people like this - if you took their test, they said you can do it in pen or pencil, but in pencil, what you were given was it - if any mistake was done in grading, tough. If in pen (no liquid paper), it had to be neatly done (no excess scribbles - if you need to work out your plan of attack, that's what the scratch pad was for), then just put down your work and solution. But if the grader made a mistake, you could argue your mark, partial credit, etc. Given the volume of papers that needed to be marked, there was a good chance an error could be made.

      It's really a different way of thinking - you work it all out ahead of time somewhere else and then you commit to it on paper.

  8. No public acts? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Of course, you're still not likely to see people committing public acts of typewriting

    Really? What's the point of being a hipster if people can't see you doing it?!

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  9. Re:Who cares. by KGIII · · Score: 2

    What is newsworthy is the lack of the Luddite/APPS poster in this thread. They'd actually be on topic.

    Modern app appers use word-processing apps to app apps! Only Luddites use typewriters! Apps app typewriter apps!

    APPS!

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  10. Hipster bull by bertvanleussen · · Score: 2

    It has nothing to do with privacy issues, nothing to do with practicality. The "small and distinctive minority" is nothing but a bunch of sad hipsters for whom everything which is worse is actually "better". Their cultural references are limited, their outlook is stunted, they think that the 1950s and 1960s were the epitome of civilization. They are "flat white" as much as their coffee: no depth to their lives, and as white as a country music gig. Typewriters are toys for privileged adulescents.

  11. A Foolish Nostalgia by NReitzel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The current in-vogue trend towards last (and older) generation technology represents a foolish nostalgia for "simpler, better" times that never existed.

    Digital media came about because of limitations (and lifetime) of analog methods. A typewriter is great if you only want one (or two) copies, but if you need to publish something, then it is wholely inadequate. Of course, if you selectively ignore bias towards older methods, you can Xerox a manuscript. How is it that copy machines are OK, and word processors are not?

    The same flavor of thing has been happening ever since technology became good enough to be a consumer item. Horses are popular today, not because they're convenient, good transportation, easy to take care of, don't drop dead at the most inconvenient times, but because they're a memory of an older, more romantic time. The important thing to understand is that that time _never existed_. Cities full of horses were knee-deep in horse excrement and smelled that way.

    Renaissance Festival enthusiasts happly don chain mail and helmets and swords, and play at being Proud Knights. Somehow, they leave out things like fleas and lice, impetago, death by infected cut, plagues, and castles that smelled like latrines. Oh, What a Marvelous Age, Forsoothe.

    What a load of crap.

    Things have changed because they are -better- and conspiracy theories aside, it is tough to force something less good onto people for any length of time.

    I live in South Texas, and I miss snow. Mostly, I miss it because I do not have to actually live in it. I remember those bad old days of trying to figure out which lump in a parking lot was -my- vehicle. I still miss snow, and I enjoy going places that have it, but only because I don't have to actually live there. People find it easy to eschew "modern" technology, but I'll bet that back home they have refrigeration.

    I have no problem with someone wanting to use a typewriter -- I did, after all, for decades. I think that a lot of the resurgence in popularity comes a widely watched television show where the good guy uses an old underwood to write novels.

    Personally, I think it's delusional behavior.

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