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ASUS To Include AdBlock Plus On All Phones and Tablets In 2016 (betanews.com)

JoeyRox writes: Starting in 2016 Asus will ship all phones and tablets with AdBlock Plus integrated into their mobile browser. The ad-blocking software will not only be pre-installed but enabled by default as well. The move to include ad-blocking software on mobile devices is significant because unlike desktop users the percentage of mobile users presently employing ad-blocking software is very low at approximately 2%.

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  1. Just serving the customer by jones_supa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The sorts of politically incorrect software that Asian electronics companies can ship is sometimes funny. I'm sure there are a few smaller vendors that even ship a Torrent app with the explanation being up front "the customer wants to download pirated movies". I love it.

    Baking in an adblocker will certainly raise eyebrows in Google and other big advertising syndicates.

    1. Re:Just serving the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How much do you want to bet that ASUS ads will be on the non-intrusive whitelist of adb+?

    2. Re:Just serving the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Forget about Adblock plus and it's "acceptable ads" bullshit. Ublock origin FTW!

    3. Re:Just serving the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The sorts of politically incorrect software that Asian electronics companies can ship is sometimes funny. I'm sure there are a few smaller vendors that even ship a Torrent app with the explanation being up front "the customer wants to download pirated movies". I love it.

      That's nothing. Car vendors will happily sell you cars that go above the speed limit, and will explicitely say that this is because people enjoy driving fast!

      Just let that sink in for a moment. Unlike ad-blocking, it's actually against the law! And unlike downloading movies, it may actually endanger people and cause damage to life and limb!

      What is the world coming to.

    4. Re:Just serving the customer by danbob999 · · Score: 2

      Adblocking is 100% legal. Downloading pirated movies isn't.

    5. Re: Just serving the customer by Gort65 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They're really not. Anyone who pays the owner money can advertise whatever they want.

      If you can show some credible evidence that they don't follow their own guidelines for what's an acceptable ad, which seemingly restricts what advertisers can push out, then "advertise whatever they want" is a bit sweeping.

      I'm in two minds about the Acceptable Ads feature in Adblockplus. On the one hand, it's giving in somewhat to advertisers, but on the other hand, it's arguable that it encourages/pushes advertisers to limit their excesses, which is itself a good thing. I use Adlbockplus myself, but I do turn off the Acceptable Ads feature (personally got fed up with the excesses of the advertisers over the years, so decided to burn all their houses). Still, as long as I can disable the feature, and Adblockplus still blocks ads, then I'm fine with it as an interesting compromise (for others to try out ;) ).

    6. Re:Just serving the customer by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Baking in an adblocker will certainly raise eyebrows in Google and other big advertising syndicates.

      Probably not so much at Google since Google's ads comply with the ADP+ acceptable ads policy and are not blocked.

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    7. Re:Just serving the customer by cfalcon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What law does downloading a pirated movie break?

  2. Interesting: what next? by Maow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is an interesting move.

    Will others follow suit and a crisis in online advertising ensue?

    Or will ABP leverage this to extract gobs of cash from the ad industry to allow a lot of ads through, rendering it relatively useless?

    I shall remain behind my DNS-based ad blocking here at home and watch with interest.

    On a side note, some YouTube ads are sneaking through on a mobile device. Anyone know what domain(s) they're being served from? It's a fairly recent phenomenon; something's changed on their end it seems.

    1. Re:Interesting: what next? by wvmarle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or will ABP leverage this to extract gobs of cash from the ad industry to allow a lot of ads through, rendering it relatively useless?

      ABP has a very thin line to walk there, as the moment they go too far in allowing ads through people will jump ship and move to another blocker. They may be the most popular, but they for sure aren't the only ones out there.

      For me the main reason to use ABP (and FlashBlock) is to get rid of floaters, popup/unders, moving/flashing images, ads with sound, and other such annoyances. I don't mind ads as such. I still buy paper newspapers even though at least a quarter of the page area is advertising - all static images that don't distract me, it's so hard to read text when there are a few ads flashing next to the article (the web site of the Dutch paper "De Volksrant" is a prime example of this horror - at least it was last time it triggered me to install ABP/FlashBlock).

      My ABP allows "acceptable ads" and until a few days ago when I checked while reading another /. discussion I didn't realise this. I'm obviously not bothered by them. Maybe it's also that the "acceptable ads" are far and few between.

    2. Re:Interesting: what next? by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I very much agree with this. Web sites need to support themselves. I don't think the web would work quite as well if you had to pay a fee to every website you went to, even if it was a very small amount. As long as the ads don't move or make sounds, and don't try to cover up the content, then I don't really have a problem with them. I think that advertisers are shooting themselves in the foot. If there weren't so many terrible ads on the web, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now.

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  3. End of the advertising-era for the web? by RogueyWon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's starting to feel a bit like the end of an era for the advertising-based business model for the web. Almost everybody I know now uses an adblocker on their desktop/laptop PC. My employer recently switched on adblocking-by-default on our office PCs, due to concerns over the number of malware-spreading adverts. Meanwhile, adverts while mobile browsing have become so disruptive (it's virtually impossible now to browse certain websites on an iPhone) that I'm strongly considering adblocking on my phone as well.

    The web-advertising industry is on the verge of suicide. Few people had a problem with the static banner ads and most tolerated the animated .gifs, but the video-ads were a further intrusion and, for many people (self included), the auto-playing video-ads were the tipping point. The increasing prevalence of ads as a means of pushing malware and the failure of the advertising networks to screen them out seems to have been the tipping point for a lot of Government and corporate networks as well.

    So the question is, what comes next and what does it mean? The strangulation of advertising income is going to fundamentally change the way a lot of sites operate. The pace at which newspapers and magazines are paywalling formerly free content is accelerating. In other cases, the content is free but subscription plans are available for an enhanced service, or even required if users want to leave comments or participate in forums. Are we moving towards a world in which only sites with a product to sell and small-scale operations will be free to browse?

    If so, there might be upsides as well as downsides. One product of the advertising model has been the clickbait-culture. That's not just about "10 shocking things you won't believe" and "this one neat trick" headlines, it's also about deliberately provocative content. Stories which get people riled up are great business, if your business model is based on page-views and ad-views. Give people an interesting article that they enjoy reading and they will view the page once then move on. Give them something that makes them angry and they will leave an angry comment, then refresh the page 30 times over the course of the day to argue with other people leaving angry comments. Just look at the stories on Slashdot which get the highest number of comments...

    Slashdot is a long way from the worst offender (even though, in the DICE-era, it undoubtedly is an offender). The advertising web model has turned the angry fringe voices, whether the ultra-conservative demagogues of the right, or the "ban everything I don't like" Angry Campus Narcissists of the left into a profitable business model and in doing so has arguably coarsened public debate and poisoned the wider political sphere.

    So maybe the death of the advertising model and the move to a subscription-based web might be a good thing.

    1. Re: End of the advertising-era for the web? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, but that's not how it will work. It's 10 bux here, 10 bux there, pretty soon you have to fork over a hundred dollars a month to read content you might only have perused before. It breaks linking, it makes sharing difficult - it's really not the best way to go.

    2. Re:End of the advertising-era for the web? by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 2

      It could be an excuse to develop even more intrusive / difficult to filter ads than what we've seen so far. But unlike other arms races, I think -over time- that's a dead end. Unless you want to chase all visitors away.

      The other choice is re-evaluate how costs are covered. Some options: (mix & match as needed)

      Put up a paywall - subscribers only. Or a partial paywall: some stuff free, premium stuff for paying subscribers.

      To keep a lid on hosting costs: a return to low(er) bandwidth content. Fewer scripts, images cut to appropriate size / linked through thumbnail vs. full-size directly in each page. More text or pictures vs. stupid video with just a talking head. Plain image ads (hosted on your own site not 3rd party-provided) vs. animated gifs or Flash content. Etc, etc. Read: better content / fluff ratio.

      For material that's not self-produced: more linking back to original site(s). Versus (for example) dozens of copies of the same video smeared across dozens of other sites that add little or no content themselves.

      For sites with deep-pocketed owners: simply pay (as owner) to get your message out there. If audience and/or bandwidth requirements are modest enough, pockets need not be deep.

      Sell physical products, with website regarded as a cost of doing business.

      Explore donation / crowdsourcing options.

      Increased interest in micro-payment options.

      Come to think of it, any of the above sounds fine to me. The "everything free, payed for with ads" model was broken to begin with, imho. It just grew that way because workable alternatives didn't exist. These days, alternatives may exist. And what's more: the numbers have changed dramatically. What used to buy you a few GB hosting traffic per month, may now by you 1000x that amount. If you're in a business where contents changed such that bandwidth requirements went up the same: tough. But if not: serve 1000x more visitors for the same $.

  4. Adaway is the best adblocker I've ever seen by lord_rob+the+only+on · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But your phone has to be rooted to use it. Adaway can be downloaded from D-froid [ http://f-droid.org/ ]. Each known ad web url is redirected to 127.0.0.1, really rocks :)

    1. Re:Adaway is the best adblocker I've ever seen by malditaenvidia · · Score: 2

      (my assumption here is that some URLs in Adaway aren't in Adblock Plus and vice versa).

      They use the same adblocking lists, so you're effectively wasting cycles.

  5. Re: Just use the Ghostery browser by malditaenvidia · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's made by an advertising company. That's a conflict of interest right there.

  6. Re:Wrong adblocker! by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wrong attitude. The use of an ad blocker which defines "acceptable" ads sends a clear message on what we can tolerate, and quite frankly I'm quite happy to tolerate ads that are not obtrusive, animated, or include any multimedia other than text or even a very small static picture.

    What I don't want is a world where I have to make a micro payment to every bloody page I visit.

  7. You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Gonna have to post AC here...

    it's arguable that it encourages/pushes advertisers to limit their excesses

    It definitely, as a solid fact, does do that. I work in ads. We recently made sure all our ads were "acceptable" (and they previously hadn't been) per the adblockplus guidelines, in the hopes of getting onto their optional whitelist.

    This came down from above; it wasn't my decision. I see it as pointless, because I personally use adblockplus too, and I sure as fuck don't enable the "acceptable" whitelist. I infer, then, that nearly everyone else does that too. But it doesn't matter; the strategists above said let's try to "work with it" and who knows, maybe some people do enable the whitelist.

    And strategic wisdom aside, the consequences are that our ads are now less annoying for the people who don't block them. "Less annoying enough?" you might ask and that's a whole other debate. But the effect is exactly as you describe: it got us to limit our excesses. IMHO we did it for the wrong reasons, but it happened.

    And we're not even on the whitelist yet. I think very few advertisers ever will be, but many of us want to be on it, or want to keep that option open if our numbers suddenly start falling (they actually haven't; even still, as of late 2015 I am convinced that a supermajority still aren't blocking).

    Give adblockplus some credit, everyone: with this "sellout" move of the "acceptable ads" whitelist, they really did do the whole world some good.