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State Dept. Releases 5,500 Hillary Clinton Emails, 275 Retroactively Classified (nbcnews.com)

An anonymous reader sends this report from NBC News: The State Department on Thursday released 5,500 more pages of Hillary Clinton's emails, but fell short of meeting a court-ordered target of making 82 percent of the former secretary of state's messages public by the end of 2015. The email dump is the latest release from the private server Clinton used during her time as America's top diplomat. The State Department said it failed to meet the court's goal because of "the large number of documents involved and the holiday schedule." Portions of 275 documents in the batch were upgraded to classified, though they were not classified at the time they were sent to Clinton's personal email, according to the State Department. In total, 1,274 of her emails were retroactively classified by the government before their release.

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  1. State doing the CYA thing by mveloso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "though they were not classified at the time they were sent to Clinton's personal email"

    Legally, it doesn't matter that the emails weren't classified at the time they were sent. Classification doesn't depend on markings, classification depends on content. If you strip the classified markings from an item that doesn't mean it isn't classified anymore.

    These sort of things are too complicated for the public and press to understand, which is why the State Department and Clintons keep saying them. As the Secretary of State, Clinton should be aware of, say, the rules behind classified information.

    If she was anyone else she'd be nailed to the wall already.

    1. Re:State doing the CYA thing by tsqr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. I've held a Secret clearance for 38 years, and the rules covering this sort of thing are very clear. The penalties include a huge fine and very serious federal prison time.

    2. Re:State doing the CYA thing by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. I've held a Secret clearance for 38 years, and the rules covering this sort of thing are very clear. The penalties include a huge fine and very serious federal prison time.

      Yeah, for you. Too bad your last name isn't "Clinton", eh?

    3. Re:State doing the CYA thing by Dragon+Bait · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unless the State Department gives you explicit permission to do as she did. Which they did. Until they didn't.

      I'm sorry. You're either being a partisan shell or you don't understand the issue. No one can give you permission to hold classified information on an unclassified server.

      Frankly, I think the problem runs deeper. How does an unsecured server end up on the same network as classified information?

    4. Re:State doing the CYA thing by Lt.Hawkins · · Score: 4, Informative

      I posted this link elsewhere but:
      https://www.whitehouse.gov/the...

      The whole thing is interesting and relevent, but in particular:

      "(d) All original classification authorities must receive training in proper classification (including the avoidance of over-classification) and declassification as provided in this order and its implementing directives at least once a calendar year. Such training must include instruction on the proper safeguarding of classified information and on the sanctions in section 5.5 of this order that may be brought against an individual who fails to classify information properly or protect classified information from unauthorized disclosure. Original classification authorities who do not receive such mandatory training at least once within a calendar year shall have their classification authority suspended by the agency head or the senior agency official designated under section 5.4(d) of this order until such training has taken place. A waiver may be granted by the agency head, the deputy agency head, or the senior agency official if an individual is unable to receive such training due to unavoidable circumstances. Whenever a waiver is granted, the individual shall receive such training as soon as practicable."

      Rarely or not, she should have had annual training, and to dodge this is to say that a person who reaches that level of government has no responsibility to uphold the more "mundane" things of their job.

      A person who dodges this responsibility is not fit to lead others who are held to the same responsibility (the entire Executive branch)

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    5. Re:State doing the CYA thing by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've held a Secret clearance for 38 years, and the rules covering this sort of thing are very clear. The penalties include a huge fine and very serious federal prison time.

      I held a secret clearance for 20 years, as a military officer, and while working on defense contracts. The spooks would hold security sweeps about once a month, checking desk drawers, file cabinets, computer drives. The ALWAYS found violations, and the worst consequences were verbal reprimands and mandatory remedial training. No one was ever fired or demoted or paid a fine. Certainly no one went to federal prison.

    6. Re: State doing the CYA thing by jmac_the_man · · Score: 4, Informative

      Tell us how Hillary! can see intelligence data from CIA or NGA, not recognize it as TOP SECRET (and more because it's probably SCI also) and still be qualified to be President.

      There's no "probably" involved. Hillary sent at least two emails which were redacted as Talent Keyhole. Talent Keyhole is an SCI program involving a specific imaging satellite or set of imaging satellites. All Talent Keyhole images are SCI because we don't want the enemy to know the capabilities of the satellite. (On the other hand, the fact that "NGA has a super cool spy satellite named Talent Keyhole" isn't classified and shows up in the press. Just the images are classified.)
      TLDR: The State Department has admitted that Hillary's server was used to send spy satellite images that are more classified than TOP SECRET.

  2. Trump to the rescue! by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's there to scare people into voting for her anyway. *Think of the alternative!* is working out to be a neat trick.

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    1. Re:Trump to the rescue! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think we should make the election like an SAT multiple choice test. There should be an choice "none of the above" . . . no Clinton, no Trump.

      This could toss back both mainstream political parties to come up with some better, more palatable candidates. Hell, maybe even a fringe party might get a chance to squeeze someone reasonable in . . .

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      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    2. Re:Trump to the rescue! by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Trump is running the most successful false-flag operation in the history of American politics.

      He's also running one of the most successful campaigns this season.

      I just read an article where the polls show that Bernie would have a better chance of beating Trump than Hillary.

      The Republicans don't want Trump as their candidate, and the Democrats don't want Bernie.

      We could very easily have an election where no one wants *either* candidate!

      This is turning out to be a most hilarious election season.

  3. Re:WHY WAS SHE USING HER PERSONAL MAIL SERVER? by meadow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Probably for some really grubby reason such as making it easier for her to accept bribes, etc.

    On a side note, its really interesting when the oligarchic-controlled news media and political "pundits" crap their pants over they way Donald Trump has verbally thrashed her recently.
    What they fail to understand is that Big Media and "pundits" crapping their pants over his statements only increases his popularity with people, who see through the years and decades of lies and BS.

    If the oligarchic-controlled Big Media and all the "pundits" were such great guardians and watchers of our democracy, how the hell did it become this effed up and broken?

    And now we're supposed to be concerned when they crap their pants because someone insults one of the foremost, lying hypocrites?