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How the Internet Changed the Way We Read (dailydot.com)

An anonymous reader writes: UC Literature Professor Jackson Bliss puts into words something many of you have probably experienced: the evolution of the internet and mobile devices has changed how we read. "The truth is that most of us read continuously in a perpetual stream of incestuous words, but instead of reading novels, book reviews, or newspapers like we used to in the ancien régime, we now read text messages, social media, and bite-sized entries about our protean cultural history on Wikipedia."

Bliss continues, "In the great epistemic galaxy of words, we have become both reading junkies and also professional text skimmers. ... Reading has become a relentless exercise in self-validation, which is why we get impatient when writers don't come out and simply tell us what they're arguing. ... Content—whether thought-provoking, regurgitated, or analytically superficial, impeccably-researched, politically doctrinaire, or grammatically atrocious—now occupies the same cultural space, the same screen space, and the same mental space in the public imagination. After awhile, we just stop keeping track of what's legitimately good because it takes too much energy to separate the crème from the foam."

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  1. Obligatory by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

    tl;dr

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    How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
    1. Re:Obligatory by khelms · · Score: 2

      2 twats would be tweet.

  2. Not gonna read this by russotto · · Score: 5, Informative

    With that much excessively verbose pomposity in the summary, the article must be insufferable.

    1. Re:Not gonna read this by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, just checkout this introductory paragraph:

      Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
      Thy micturations are to me,
      As plurdled gabbleblotchits,
      On a lurgid bee,
      That mordiously hath blurted out,
      Its earted jurtles,
      Into a rancid festering confectious organ squealer.

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    2. Re:Not gonna read this by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 4, Funny

      I skimmed it and you're right. Sweeping generalizations tossed in a word salad.

      I just spent 6 hours reading Heinlein on e ink, so I humored him. Meanwhile, the same has been said in fewer, clearer words for at least 5 years now, with predictions of same around the time facebook, texting, and news aggregators went mainstream. Each time, that is.

      Take old news and wrap it in New paper.

    3. Re:Not gonna read this by ljhiller · · Score: 4, Funny

      I literally did not understand what he was saying (the the quoted summary). I don't have the patience to decode what he's trying to say in this convoluted mess of word salad. Why doesn't he just come out and state his thesis? Maybe I'll just look him up on wikipedia.

    4. Re:Not gonna read this by rudy_wayne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I literally did not understand what he was saying (the the quoted summary). I don't have the patience to decode what he's trying to say in this convoluted mess of word salad. Why doesn't he just come out and state his thesis? Maybe I'll just look him up on wikipedia.

      I like his unintentional humour: "which is why we get impatient when writers don't come out and simply tell us what they're arguing."

      Long-winded prose, which uses 1000 words when only 10 are needed, used to be confined to academia. But now, thanks to the interwebs, it's everywhere.

    5. Re:Not gonna read this by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Give him a break, he's a Literary professor. Words are his life...

      Even allowing for that - when someone uses a phrase as ridiculous as "incestuous words", it serves as a warning flag telling me they almost certainly don't have anything to offer beyond pomposity.

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    6. Re:Not gonna read this by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      UCI - My school!

      Okay, Dr. Bliss needs to have a thesaurus removed from his colon, wherein it was undoubtedly placed by some angry freshman, but the point is an interesting one. Back in the nineteen hundreds, when to access information we needed to leave home and drive to a public building called a "library" and carefully select printed works of interest, we absorbed information only when we specifically intended to. The mechanics of this process forced us to remember specific authors and publications as being our sources. And the distribution paradigm was always one-to-many, information flowing from authors through their august gatekeeping Publishers to the plebeian eye.

      Today, it's raining 'content'. The lordly Publisher, and his retinue of pimply-faced grad students who made sure that only approved Major Authors made it past the slush pile, is all but gone. Because we can search effortlessly in a world of diverse data, we no longer have to depend on a few authors we trust to define the culture we live in. And furthermore, we can now talk back. One-to-many distribution has become the shrieking of many-to-many. This confuses quite a few of us.

    7. Re:Not gonna read this by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

      Here seems to be the crux of his complaint:

      We now skim everything it seems to find evidence for our own belief system. We read to comment on reality (Read: to prove our own belief system). Reading has become a relentless exercise in self-validation, which is why we get impatient when writers don’t come out and simply tell us what they’re arguing.

      Of course, the notion that this is somehow new and different is utter tripe. Does anyone think that some magical, golden age existed in which wordsmiths could sway the hearts and minds of the masses? My goodness, how *dare* we have our own opinions, rather than relying on the words of others to shape our thoughts.

      Typical ivory-tower nonsense. You're missing nothing by skipping this article.

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    8. Re:Not gonna read this by Reziac · · Score: 2

      And there's a great deal of garbage that's not readily distinguishable from the real thing. Witness:

      http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/

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  3. TL;DR by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    TL;DR: Kids these days.

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  4. Re:top to bottom, left to right. by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    That's because you're a racist who hates Arabs (or is it the Chinese? -Ed). Anyway, in the spirit of exclusivity you should read equally in all directions.

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  5. False assumption by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    Plenty of us still read books, too. Note the market for regular paper books is not dead, and e-readers are quite common. There is "internet reading" and real reading. Like there is fast food and good food.

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  6. Incestuous Words by mentil · · Score: 4, Funny

    most of us read continuously in a perpetual stream of incestuous words

    Remember kids, that's where portmanteau words come from.

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  7. Why your article won't be read by Cowclops · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not even making a slashdot-type "nobody reads the article" joke here - literally no one anywhere is going to read the article when you use high-level SAT words and phrases like:

    incestuous words
    regime (not referring to a country's leadership)
    protean
    epistemic
    doctrinaire

    If its supposed to be ironic, I get it, but if its not then you failed miserably and don't even understand your own ideas.

    I think its good to have as big of a vocabulary as possible and I actually recognize most of these words or could figure it out from contrast, and I consider myself to have a fairly above-average vocab due to having an English teacher for a Mom, but repeatedly using "big" words like those is just a shortcut to letting us know you're an asshole without much to say.

    tldr version:
    tldr.

    1. Re:Why your article won't be read by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, it means YOU are the philistine and cannot understand the things the adults are saying.

      You don't even know what philistine means, do you? It is the attitude of anti-intellectualism that undervalues and despises art, beauty, spirituality, and intellect. A philistine person is an individual who is smugly narrow of mind and of conventional morality whose materialistic views and tastes indicate a lack of and indifference to cultural and aesthetic values.

      How can you say he is "an asshole without much to say"? Not only does he have far more than you to say, but he is a Professor of Literature AND he can get what he writes heard on The Daily Dot as well as Slashdot. Vladimir Nabokov had a lot to say about you people, and if you think Nabokov is a pervert just because he wrote a famous novel about a man who becomes sexually involved with a 12-year-old girl, you're a philistine too. Your prudish attitudes are the result of being contaminated with bourgeois values.

      Now please note that I do not for a minute agree with any of this - but a rather large portion of the world's decision makers think this way. They have nothing but contempt for you and your kind, and your philistine attitude is their justification. If you find Nabokov, Woody Allen, or what Roman Polanski did despicable, you're one of them and your views are not worth listening to. They have simply decided that their own views are correct, and yours are wrong. That argument about your Mom being an English teacher? You'd be laughed out of any independent theater in the world.

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    2. Re:Why your article won't be read by chihowa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      His use of "contrast" instead of "context" might not have been an accident, which highlights one of the reasons that I have a hard time reading much of what is written today. You get a huge serving of it here on Slashdot, but even people who are paid to write in English often regularly try to use words that they don't actually know: from the famous "intensive purposes" to the use of "idealistic" instead of "idyllic" (which made me cringe while reading an article this morning).

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    3. Re: Why your article won't be read by tsqr · · Score: 2

      Illiteracy - it has electrolytes.

  8. Re:A glut of information, a lack of attention span by khasim · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I disagree. I don't think it is the attention span. I skip reading things if the author has not clearly stated his/her point within the first 3 paragraphs.

    From the summary:

    The truth is that most of us read continuously in a perpetual stream of incestuous words, but instead of reading novels, book reviews, or newspapers like we used to in the ancien régime, we now read text messages, social media, and bite-sized entries about our protean cultural history on Wikipedia.

    What does the phrase "incestuous words" mean?

    Why is "continuously" used in the same sentence with "perpetual"?

    How is "cultural history" associated with "protean"?

    The problem isn't the attention span. The problem is trying to figure out what someone is really saying. Electrons are cheaper than ink. That does not mean it is acceptable to pack in the adjectives and adverbs just because you don't have to pay a printer.

  9. Re:Not new by rudy_wayne · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is not a new phenomenon. I remember a lawyer giving me her newspaper at the courthouse when I was 8 or 9. "

    Wait . . . . what?

  10. Re:A glut of information, a lack of attention span by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    He's using "Protean" (which should be capitalized) to mean "changing." It comes from the Greek myth of Proteus, but the professor (who is clearly an idiot) does not know that, which is why he does not capitalize the adjective derived of a proper noun.

    He simply uses "incestuous" incorrectly. Likely, he is used to dropping "provocative" adjectives into his academic writing as if that made him somehow less boring or more meaningful. Instead, he simply comes across as shallow and stupid, like most modern language professors.

    Disclosure: I'm a classics professor, and I hate with a passion the English professors around me and their utter failure to use correctly the language that they teach.

  11. Re:A glut of information, a lack of attention span by khasim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He's using "Protean" (which should be capitalized) to mean "changing."

    That is what I suspected. The problem is that "history" should not be "Protean".

    Instead of

    ... our protean cultural history on Wikipedia

    I would suggest "our Protean culture". Or even "... our changing culture".

    I am reminded of The Eye or Argon.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eye_of_Argon

  12. Re:A glut of information, a lack of attention span by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    My experience is that I skim a lot more noise than I used to, but when I do find something worthy paying attention to I will happily slow down and read it properly. And because of the increased volume of available material I read a lot less crap than I used to because there is too much good stuff to waste time on the rubbish. After all, why would I waste time reading some poorly written, sensationalist "now feel scared" newspaper article when there is content just a few clicks away that might actually teach me something worth learning?

  13. Legitimately good? by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who's to say what is "legitimately" good?

    There are several points of view that all encompass "good." A piece of writing might be
    - funny
    - insightful
    - artistic
    - emotional
    - provocative
    - motivational
    - well-crafted

    Each of these (and other characteristics) might characterize writing as "good" even if it doesn't possess all of them.

    In other words, beauty (or goodness) is in the eye of the beholder.

    1. Re:Legitimately good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      A minor correction: A piece of writing might be:
      - funny
      - insightful
      - informative
      - offtopic
      - flamebait
      - normal
      - troll
      - redundant
      - interesting
      - overrated
      - underrated

  14. TF;GO by epine · · Score: 2

    Wow. I had no idea literate people found this level of prose the least bit difficult. The ornate lexicon in the summary text dented my customary reading speed hardly a yod.

    But then, when I clicked through to the full article, my eyes refused to focus anywhere in his text. Apparently my Joo Janta 300 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Neural Implants went into filter mode, removing the black letterforms while leaving behind only the whitespace between and around the words and letters. (Obviously, this is not an optical process, but hooks somewhere deeper into the visual–cognitive semantic stack.)

    I've never even remotely figured out how this works. I take a brief glance at a wall of text, and even before I've consciously read more than a phrase or two, some subliminal thesis detector goes "nope, no cigar" and then my eyes defocus into paragraph at a time mode and pretty soon I've assessed an entire piece from end to end without having read a full sentence anywhere.

    So I figure, "there's no farting way my brain could be passing judgment on a complex text while skimming at this speed" so I randomly force myself to read a sentence or two ... word ... by ... painful ... word and just about every time, same end result: no thesis detected.

    Maybe this is why I've never really understood the whole TL;DR meme. Closest I ever come is TF;GO (too fuzzy, glassed over).

    Length, as such, has nothing to do with it.