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Linode Resets Passwords After Credentials Leak (linode.com)
New submitter qmrq sends news that Linode, a major provider of virtual private servers, has been compromised again. In a blog post, they said, "A security investigation into the unauthorized login of three accounts has led us to the discovery of two Linode.com user credentials on an external machine. This implies user credentials could have been read from our database, either offline or on, at some point. The user table contains usernames, email addresses, securely hashed passwords and encrypted two-factor seeds." The Linode team said it found evidence of unauthorized access to three customer accounts. They don't yet know who is behind the attacks.
An employee for PagerDuty said they were compromised through Linode Manager all the way back in July. "In our situation the attacker knew one of our user's passwords and MFA secret. This allowed them to provide valid authentication credentials for an account in the Linode Manager. It's worth noting that all of our active user accounts had two-factor authentication enabled. ... We also have evidence from access logs provided by Linode that the attackers tried to authenticate as an ex-employee, whose username ONLY existed in the Linode database."
An employee for PagerDuty said they were compromised through Linode Manager all the way back in July. "In our situation the attacker knew one of our user's passwords and MFA secret. This allowed them to provide valid authentication credentials for an account in the Linode Manager. It's worth noting that all of our active user accounts had two-factor authentication enabled. ... We also have evidence from access logs provided by Linode that the attackers tried to authenticate as an ex-employee, whose username ONLY existed in the Linode database."
Sounds like someone really hates them. First the DDoS, now the compromise...
Was this the same event as was reported here two days ago? Or new? The problem here is once your provider has been compromised you have no recourse but to assume that you and your customers who use you have been compromised as well. My guess here is that it is a disgruntled ex-employee of Linode.
Foreplay!
Could public cloud providers be penetrated in such a way that all your data and activities belong to NSA, China, etc?
Fnord.
Linode... Distant cousin of the anode and cathode
They probably already are. The reason you won't hear about it is because the people that break in to systems like that are very careful to go unnoticed. Hacking those systems is worth billions of dollars.
I always find it amusing when a big spammy hosting provider gets pwned. Companies that ignore their spam problems usually tend to ignore their security problems too.
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/li...
Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
Tinfoil hat much
lucm, indeed.
Strange... your comment was blank. Did you mean to post a blank comment?
They must be a top target for espionage.
Right of course. The intelligence community was exposed for intercepting every electronic communication they could and were allowed to continue doing so until private businesses were able/compelled to do it for them, and continually compromise and publicly undermine encryption. But imagining that they're actually using the power they've accumulated... that's paranoid and anyone suggesting it should be mocked.
It's not like the old days where you had to pay attention and make inferences, the stuff is public record now. Now it rightly sounds delusional to suggest that any important system escapes compromise.
Right of course. The intelligence community was exposed for intercepting every electronic communication they could and were allowed to continue doing so until private businesses were able/compelled to do it for them, and continually compromise and publicly undermine encryption. But imagining that they're actually using the power they've accumulated... that's paranoid and anyone suggesting it should be mocked.
The AC said: "Hacking those systems is worth billions of dollars". That doesn't suggest NSA interception, that suggests a commercial endeavor to hack AWS and Azure. Those are two different things.
lucm, indeed.
It helps to actually read the thing someone's replying to. Here's the whole thread up to your response, with my emphasis added:
Could public cloud providers be penetrated in such a way that all your data and activities belong to NSA, China, etc?
They probably already are. The reason you won't hear about it is because the people that break in to systems like that are very careful to go unnoticed. Hacking those systems is worth billions of dollars.
Tinfoil hat much
But to your inference, the intelligence community also sees monetary value in their interception and exploit programs, obviously, which is why they've invested in those programs. Bang for buck, investing in electronic intelligence almost certainly pays bigger dividends in aggregate than investing in human intelligence—at least that is what they must assume.
And with that said, if you were more preoccupied by the mention of China, and for some reason assuming corporate, rather than imperial, espionage... I'm even more at a loss at your accusation of paranoia.
Someone needs to nuke that place.
I made a linode account yesterday, good thing I didn't buy anything.
Only signed up with them as a customer the other day, I got the Password Expiry on Logon. This must be relatively new news.
We're just in the process now of migrating away from Linode. And this is the first notification I've seen of this issue. So they didn't email everyone.
It helps to actually read the thing someone's replying to. Here's the whole thread up to your response, with my emphasis added:
Could public cloud providers be penetrated in such a way that all your data and activities belong to NSA, China, etc?
They probably already are. The reason you won't hear about it is because the people that break in to systems like that are very careful to go unnoticed. Hacking those systems is worth billions of dollars.
Tinfoil hat much
But to your inference, the intelligence community also sees monetary value in their interception and exploit programs, obviously, which is why they've invested in those programs. Bang for buck, investing in electronic intelligence almost certainly pays bigger dividends in aggregate than investing in human intelligence—at least that is what they must assume.
And with that said, if you were more preoccupied by the mention of China, and for some reason assuming corporate, rather than imperial, espionage... I'm even more at a loss at your accusation of paranoia.
None of this is relevant. The point is that nobody has made billions secretly hacking AWS and Azure. This is just FUD with no basis in reality.
As for China having backdoors to AWS and Azure, that's also absurd and it shows a very poor knowledge of the actual situation in China, where:
1) The government is not one big unified organization, but instead a bunch of small fiefdoms, a lot more similar to the EU than the USA
2) The technical capabilities are just not there; lots of noise and scanning, but still very low capabilities beyond human intelligence which has little reach outside of Chinese nationals abroad
Get real
lucm, indeed.
None of this is relevant. The point is that nobody has made billions secretly hacking AWS and Azure. This is just FUD with no basis in reality.
How many businesses do you think run on AWS and Azure? Considering revenue for AWS is at $2.1 billion dollars. AWS also offers a cloud computing aimed at the Feds, which certainly wouldn't be of interest to anyone else out there.
Man blir trött av att gå och göra ingenting.
None of this is relevant. The point is that nobody has made billions secretly hacking AWS and Azure. This is just FUD with no basis in reality.
How many businesses do you think run on AWS and Azure? Considering revenue for AWS is at $2.1 billion dollars. AWS also offers a cloud computing aimed at the Feds, which certainly wouldn't be of interest to anyone else out there.
So what? That's like saying: there's billions of people driving cars out there so a brand new electric car that cost $500 and that goes 100,000 miles per charge would interest a lot of people. Doesn't mean someone has done it.
lucm, indeed.
If you look closely at the thread the claim was that it's not worth billions to attempt to hack AWS. I've shown that the operation itself is worth over two billion just to Amazon. Including the businesses that run on it would easily increase that figure.
Man blir trött av att gå och göra ingenting.
None of this is relevant.
Then why the fuck did you reply to it?
Here's what you say:
If you look closely at the thread the claim was that it's not worth billions to attempt to hack AWS.
Here's what was said in the thread:
Hacking those systems is worth billions of dollars.
I guess I'm not reading things closely enough.
lucm, indeed.
None of this is relevant.
Then why the fuck did you reply to it?
Don't get your panties in a bunch. My point was that it's absurd to think that someone is making billions with their secret hacking of AWS and Azure, not that someone wouldn't make money if they did hack AWS or Azure.
You can agree or not with that, but saying that the NSA is evil or that AWS is making money doesn't shed any more light on the matter.
lucm, indeed.
I still don't understand why you're shoving your random thoughts into a thread where you don't think the discussion is relevant. And gendering my underpants isn't any more enlightening.
I still don't understand why you're shoving your random thoughts into a thread where you don't think the discussion is relevant. And gendering my underpants isn't any more enlightening.
Here's my parting gift to you. Either nobody ever cared enough about you to let you know, or you're just too self-centered to acknowledge critics, but dude, you're not funny. You're obviously smarter than average, but you're not as clever and witty as you think. Odds are that when you walk away from a discussion (online or in real life) feeling like high-fiving yourself, you actually came out lame and smug.
I enjoy an entertaining flame war once in a while but that's just not happening with you.
lucm, indeed.