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The Top Weather/Climate Events of 2015 (wunderground.com)

Layzej writes: With only a few stations left to report, 2015 is virtually certain to beat 2014's record as the planet's warmest year since record keeping began in 1880. The new record was caused by the long-term warming of the planet due to human-caused emissions of heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide, combined with a extra bump in temperature due to the strongest El Niño event ever recorded in the Eastern Pacific. Record warm ocean temperatures in the tropics in 2015 led to a global coral bleaching event, which is expected to cause a loss of 10 — 20% of all coral worldwide. Weather Underground recounts several other records that accompanied the heat including the most intense hurricane ever observed in the Western Hemisphere, the ongoing agricultural fires in Indonesia — the most expensive disaster in Indonesia's history estimated at $16 billion in damages, flooding in America and India, and record central pacific hurricane activity.

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  1. So...a year with fewer hurricanes = no warming? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    >> the most intense hurricane ever observed in the Western Hemisphere...and record central pacific hurricane activity.

    I believe the biggest knock on Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" movie was the prediction of lots of new super-hurricanes that hasn't come true, especially not in recent years. I'd be careful trying to link the two again...

    1. Re:So...a year with fewer hurricanes = no warming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't you understand BASIC SCIENCE?

      Extreme weather of any kind is evidence of global warming.
      Mild weather isn't evidence against global warming because weather isn't the same as climate.
      Data that shows warming is obviously valid evidence.
      Data that shows anything other than warming is invalid because the measurements must have missed ocean heat sinks or something, or obviously it would have shown warming.

      So sick of you deniers who don't even understand basic scientific method.

    2. Re:So...a year with fewer hurricanes = no warming? by sjames · · Score: 4, Informative

      So you take the most powerful hurricane ever to be evidence AGAINST a prediction of super hurricanes?

    3. Re:So...a year with fewer hurricanes = no warming? by KenDiPietro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm kinda sick of fuck-sticks who accept all (so called) science as fact w/o question then brow beat those who may be a little more cautious

      No shit! Can you imagine how bad the world be if every single uneducated prick wasn't seen as being as capable of understanding incredibly complex issues on equal footing as those who have studied these issues for decades? I mean, let's face it, your opinion should be every bit as valid as these experts because we all know your gut feeling is without question far more valuable than mountains of accumulated data.

      By the way, should you be stricken with cancer, you might shun those very same scientists and make up your own cure based on your beliefs. I'm sure the rest of us here would broadly support your efforts.

    4. Re:So...a year with fewer hurricanes = no warming? by Solandri · · Score: 2

      So you take the most powerful hurricane ever to be evidence AGAINST a prediction of super hurricanes?

      Actually, yes. It was the most powerful hurricane, but it wasn't the most powerful tropical cyclone. Not by a long shot. There were 4 to 7 more intense cyclones, all in the West Pacific during the 1950s-1970s. (A lot of the early measurements were in inches of Hg, while recent measurements are in mm of Hg. The uncertainty in the measurement of the early "880 mmHg" storms overlaps with the uncertainty in Patricia's 879mm, so they could in fact have been more powerful than Patricia.)

      But the media was so busy tripping over themselves to present Patricia as evidence of global warming, that it was commonly misreported as the "most powerful" hurricane ever. Apparently when something happens which supports the hypothesis of global warming, it's ok to abuse a linguistic curiosity to manufacture a story (tropical cyclones are called typhoons, hurricanes, or cyclones depending on which part of the world they happen in, even though they're all the same thing). Thus it becomes evidence of pro-global warming bias in the media rather than evidence for the prediction of super hurricanes.

      As for evidence of super hurricanes, of the 77 cyclones on Earth measured to have reached 900 mmHg pressures or lower (arbitrary cutoff, I picked it because that's the highest the West Pacific data on that Wiki page goes, feel free to crunch the numbers yourself):

      1935 = 1
      1950s = 11
      1960s = 15
      1970s = 13
      1980s = 15
      1990s = 8
      2000s = 6
      2010s = 8 (projects to 13 by the end of the decade)

      Bear in mind that before the 1970s, we didn't have global weather satellite coverage, so there were probably a lot of powerful storms in the 1950s and 1960s and even 1970s that aren't on that list because they were too far from shore for us to measure or even know about. Looking at that list, not only does it look like the super hurricane hypothesis is wrong, but that the opposite has been happening. We've been getting fewer powerful storms than in the past, not more. And what's really going on is probably just temporal bias - the tendency for you to remember recent events more strongly than events which happened in the distant past.

      BTW, typhoon Tip (1979) was a monster - nearly half the size of the continental U.S. Not only was it the most powerful storm, it was biggest. Patricia, Wilma, Katrina, Rita were all wild storms. But they're like little children compared to Tip.

  2. Does anyone have a list of the hottest years? by NotDrWho · · Score: 2

    Trying to find a "top ten" list of the hottest and coldest years. Can't find it on NOAA's website. Anyone?

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    1. Re:Does anyone have a list of the hottest years? by dywolf · · Score: 2

      You could have shown an ounce of intelligence and tried clicking the link in the summary ( http://icons.wxug.com/hurrican... ).
      Of course that assumes you know how to read a chart.

      So let me help you:
      See the tallest red lines?
      Those are the biggest years.
      Find the 10 tallest, and there's your list.
      Now repeat for the blue ones.

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    2. Re:Does anyone have a list of the hottest years? by NotDrWho · · Score: 2

      That chart is not showing what I'm asking for. It shows "Global Departure of Temperature from Average."

      I just need a simple list of average temps from each year, so I can do a top ten list of hottest and coldest. Not a chart, not using "departure from average" or whatever the fuck. Just just a simple list of average worldwide temps for each year going back as far as possible.

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    3. Re:Does anyone have a list of the hottest years? by hey! · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's the data.

      If you look through the data you'll see these are the ten coldest years after 1849, coolest first:
            1911, 1909, 1904, 1908, 1862, 1910, 1903, 1864, 1917, 1893.

      These are the ten hottest years prior to 2015, hottest first:
          2014, **2010, *2005, ***/++1998, **2003, *2006, **2009, **2002, *2007, 2013.

      I've also noted El Niño years with stars and La Niña with plusses:
      * = weak El Niño year
      ** = moderate El Niño year
      ***/++ = 1998 started as a very strong El Niño and ended as a moderate La Niña.

      2015 is an El Niño year (which tend to be hot), but is not in this dataset yet. Note that 8/10 of the top 10 years have an El Niño component, except 2013 and 2014, which were "ordinary" but very warm years.

      I didn't note the ENSO (El Niño / Southern oscillation) status for the coldest years, because all ten of the coldest years are before 1912 and there is no reliable ENSO data for before 1950 so far as I know. However it's a safe bet that many of these were La Niñas, which tend to be colder than average. The last colder-than-average year was 1985, which was a La Niña; all six La Niña years since have been warmer than the 1850-2014 average. The last "ordinary" (non-ENSO) year that was colder than average was 1970.

      Here is the average temperature anomaly by decade:
      Decade Anomaly
      1850 -0.3174
      1860 -0.3296
      1870 -0.2548
      1880 -0.3
      1890 -0.3623
      1900 -0.4099
      1918 -0.2494
      1930 -0.1182
      1940 -0.0036
      1950 -0.061
      1960 -0.0535
      1970 -0.0769
      1980 +0.0943
      1990 +0.274
      2000 +0.4622
      2010 +0.4998 // partial, obviously

      Note that all the decades up to the 70s are colder than the "average" year because "average" is dominated by the acceleration of warming from the 90s to present.

      I hope this helps.

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  3. Re:What was "Adjusted" this year? by hey! · · Score: 3, Funny

    The average of the instrumental record ... just like last year, and the year before that. The thing that you're missing is that it's reasonable to do this to account for the fact that you've added additional stations to the dataset, which would alter the raw average.

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  4. Re:Not according to satellites by Cyberax · · Score: 3, Informative

    Satellite data put it at least in the top 3 years. Oh, and there's no "hiatus" any more.

  5. Tons and tons of paid posters here by DogDude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Every time there's anything about climate change, there are tons and tons more AC posts than usual, and of course, a large majority of them are making fun of the idea that humankind can change our climate. I wonder if it's just a few nutters, or a team of people paid by the oil industry to do this...

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  6. Re:Not according to satellites by dywolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    also note that what he states is This makes 2015 the third warmest year globally (+0.27 deg C) in the satellite record (since 1979).

    this is not at all contradictory or mutually exclusive. the flaws or inadequacies of the satellite data are well known, and its completely possible to be only 3rd warmest in one flawed data set, and warmest in another more complete dataset.

    But congratulations on mastering how to lie with statistics 101 and moving onto 102 methods.
    That's progress, albeit not the kind honest people like to see.

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  7. Re:What was "Adjusted" this year? by Old97 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Stations sample at a point. Adding more stations is adding more sample points. The distribution of the locations of the stations is no longer the same and that skews the sample, i.e. it's representation of the entire planet is different so you have to change the weightings so you aren't giving more weight to areas that have a different station density.

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  8. The good thing is by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    Now with the Paris accord in place, and the fact that the EU has been reducing their Co2 emissions every year since we learned that Co2 emissions cause climate change, we are on the right path. What is that you say? The EU has been INCREASING their Co2 emissions every year, not reducing them??? Very strange. Why would they do that? I thought they didn't like AGW. So why are they doing the opposite?

  9. Re:What was "Adjusted" this year? by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You could, but you'd get a less precise tracking of changes in recent years.

    You basically have three choices here:
    (1) Limit yourself to in instruments and stations in use in 1850.
    (2) Add new stations and technologies but ignore their effect on the average.
    (3) Add new stations and technologies then use statistical techniques to find the approximation that best fits the datapoints you have.

    Simply limiting yourself to the instruments you had in place in 1850 is bound to *overestimate* the amount of warming. That's because the land-based instruments are likely to be overwhelmed by waste heat generated by urban sprawl. Instruments that were in quiet rural suburbs are now in the center of cities with hard, heat-catching surfaces like asphalt and concrete, surrounded by buildings heated with what by 1850 standards are vast amounts of energy. So even if you tried approach 1 you'd still have to adjust the figures (in this case discounting some of the spurious "warming" you're seeing) to get a reasonable estimate of change.

    The instrumental "global average temperature" is an artificial construct in any case. We know there must *be* a global average temperature, but we can't measure it directly, short of measuring the temperature continuously over very point on the surface of the Earth. All we have are discrete measurements taken from a finite number of stations. You need some kind of model for how representative you think those measurements you do have are of the whole.

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  10. Here is the adjustment by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is the "adjustment" you're referring to:
    http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-...

    The recent correction is the difference between the black line and the red line. The temperature rise between 1959 and 2014 is about 0.9C. The adjustment, in the last two years, is just barely large enough to see, about 0.05C. Over the full period analyzed, the new global analysis changed the observed rate of warming from 0.065C/decade to 0.068C/decade, less than the noise.

    Really, I need to point out that analyzing data sets is what science does. But, if you actually look at the data, even if you throw out the new corrections entirely, it doesn't make a difference. The corrections didn't change whether warming exists or not.

    That image is from this article: http://arstechnica.com/science...
    For reference, here is the paper with the adjustments explained: http://www.sciencemag.org/cont...
    (Karl, et al., "Possible artifacts of data biases in the recent global surface warming hiatus," Science Vol. 348 no. 6242, 26 June 2015: pp. 1469-1472
    DOI: 10.1126/science.aaa5632)

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  11. Re:OR.... by hey! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is no such thing. Oh, there's remote sensing, but you have to ground truth that. And it leaves you in the dark about anything that happened before the 1990s when the first climate observation satellites were launched.

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  12. Here's the 10000 year view by zapadnik · · Score: 2

    Slashdotters love data, right?

    Here is the 10000 year view of the situation:
    http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com...

    Here's the data from the Arctic:
    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/ice...
    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/old...

    Here's the RSS satellite trend since the big El Nino of 1998:
    http://www.woodfortrees.org/pl...

    Here's the RSS satellite trend since the big El Nino of 1998:
    http://www.woodfortrees.org/pl...

    Here is a correlation between CO2 and various surface and satellite data-sets: http://www.woodfortrees.org/pl...

    Unfortunately the global temperature range is of the order of 100 K from poles to equator, and the uncertainty in the measurement data is at least +/- 0.2 K, so increases of fractions of a degree are not particularly significant. Here is a paper discussing the same
    http://multi-science.atypon.co...
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/201...

    There is Global Warming for sure. We would expect warming after the Sun increased magnetic activity after the end of the Little Ice Age. Some component of that warming is due to human-emitted CO2. Whether the dominant effect is natural or human is still being debated (particularly since CO2 effects are weak and the IPCC's models that the CO2-induced water vapor effects would increase the temperature further appear to be falsified by experiment). To de-industrialize and impose punitive 'carbon taxes' at this stage does not look like it can be supported by the data. The difference between surface and satellite observations has not yet been resolved satisfactorily (the 'science is not settled'). If you think the science is settled please refer to the data I have provided in your response (you need to explain it). Thanks.

  13. Re:OR.... by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    And it leaves you in the dark about anything that happened before the 1990s when the first climate observation satellites were launched.

    Temperature satellite records go back to the 70s. See for example. Generally I consider them to be much more reliable than terrestrial data, for a lot of reasons, but essentially they're harder to mess up.

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  14. Which data set [Re:Here is the adjustment] by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2

    It's better to just trust the satellite record. (Also, it's fairly annoying how infrequently the error bars are included on those temperature graphs).

    There are several satellite data sets, and they have a very large number of corrections required to convert radiance to atmospheric temperature profiles. In general, they give tropospheric temperature, not surface temperature.

    Which data set do you like?

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  15. Re:really? by BouncingBob · · Score: 2

    Maybe it's because you ignore the science you are asking to speak for itself, dismiss everyone who disagrees with you as a "SJW", and the only "questioning" you did is effectively saying "Nuh-uh!".