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New Mersenne Prime Discovered, Largest Known Prime Number: 2^74,207,281 - 1 (mersenne.org)

Dave Knott writes: The Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search (GIMPS) has discovered a new largest known prime number, 2^74,207,281-1, having 22,338,618 digits. The same GIMPS software recently uncovered a flaw in Intel's latest Skylake CPUs, and its global network of CPUs peaking at 450 trillion calculations per second remains the longest continuously-running "grassroots supercomputing" project in Internet history. The prime is almost 5 million digits larger than the previous record prime number, in a special class of extremely rare prime numbers known as Mersenne primes. It is only the 49th known Mersenne prime ever discovered, each increasingly difficult to find.

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  1. PrimeCoins by darkain · · Score: 2

    Are these people mining PrimeCoins? What's the motivation to be part of this network? Just curious is all.

    1. Re:PrimeCoins by dasunt · · Score: 3, Funny

      You were the first comment, and you didn't take the opportunity to say "prime post!" :p

    2. Re:PrimeCoins by suso · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is a US$3000 award for the finder.

      And a $3000 power bill for those who don't find it.

    3. Re:PrimeCoins by Livius · · Score: 5, Funny

      Obviously prime posts start with the second one.

    4. Re:PrimeCoins by DesertNomad · · Score: 4, Informative

      this is likely true as the number 1 is not a prime number. https://primes.utm.edu/notes/f...

    5. Re:PrimeCoins by WalksOnDirt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are only 49 of these known. I don't see how it can be used in encryption.

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    6. Re:PrimeCoins by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who is paying for prime numbers!!!

      Mexico.

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      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    7. Re: PrimeCoins by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wanna be a perfect number!

      I'd rather be happy than perfect.

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      systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
    8. Re:PrimeCoins by sectokia · · Score: 2

      Prime numbers are very useful for puesdo random number generators, In this case the merssene twister. The is a huge benefit in making good rng from prime, because it can be made with an incredible simply algorithm that can run fast etc.

    9. Re:PrimeCoins by jafiwam · · Score: 2

      4b: Also a parent/college/workplace paying the power bill.

      4c: Resistance electric heating where the "extra" power goes to something you gotta do anyway.

      4d: Testing a new rig.

      4e: Annoys the sanctimonious douchebags in the audience.

  2. Mental note by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thanks, now I need to change private key.

    1. Re:Mental note by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

      "2^74,207,281-1? That sounds like the combination an idiot would put on his luggage."
      --Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money

  3. Re:"each increasingly difficult to find." by Pseudonym · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here you go: S. Wagstaff, "Divisors of Mersenne numbers," Math. Comp., 40:161 (January 1983) 385--397. MR 84j:10052

    It's true that we don't know for sure, but it's not true that we have no fucking idea.

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  4. Re:Rare Primes? by complete+loony · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, absolutely not.

    Out of 74,207,281(-ish) tested values for n, this is only the 49th prime found. If you tested the first 74,207,281 odd numbers you would have found more that 5 million primes.

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  5. Re:Rare Primes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not so much that Mersenne numbers are much more likely to be prime than other odd numbers of their size. It's that there is a special-purpose primality test just for Mersenne numbers that is tons more efficient than verifying other primes of similar size.

  6. It's small. by Kwyj1b0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's still smaller than the box Amazon Prime uses to send me a toothpick.

  7. 22,338,618 digits by mejustme · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How "big" is 22,338,618 digits? Text file containing the prime is 22.8 MiB in size. http://www.mersenne.org/primes...

    1. Re:22,338,618 digits by craigm4980 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The number is 2^74,207,281-1, thus its exactly 74,207,280 bits long and all those bits are 1. That's 9,275,910 bytes, or roughly 9MiB. When talking about mersenne primes on a tech site, using base 10 versions encoded as ascii (or utf-8, its the same for that subset) seems like an odd measure of size.

  8. Re:i thought Optimis Prime was the ultimate prime by Jeremi · · Score: 2

    Well, printing it in binary would be 74,207,280 numeral "1"s, so if you go that way it would be pretty big!

    binary is for pikers. Real mathematicians print it out in unary.

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  9. Re:Rare Primes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Uninteresting fact.

    If 2^n-1 is represented in binary then n will be the number of set bits.
    That means that if n can be divided by m then 2^n-1 can be divided by 2^m-1. (For example 2^15-1 = 32767 and can be divided by 2^3-1 and 2^5-1.)
    From the headline we can tell that 74,207,281 is a prime, otherwise 2^74,207,281-1 wouldn't be a prime.

  10. Re:OMG, who cares! by jandersen · · Score: 3, Informative

    Isn't knowing the definition of a prime number enough?

    Enough - for what? The definition of prime numbers is deceptively simple, but we still don't know a general way to construct all prime numbers - we don't even know if there is one. The same can be said for many other classes of numbers, I suppose, but prime numbers have turned out to be useful for our understanding of numbers and other things.

    Compare with vector spces: a vector space is, to put it simply, a space with 'dimension': every point in a vector space can be represented as a tuple of numbers: a = (a1, a2, a3, ...., aN). The first thing you want to find in a vector space is the basis: a set of N vectors that point out the independent coordinate axes of the space think of R^2 or R^3, the 2- and 3-dimensional spaces we are familiar with. Every natural number has a slightly similar property: it can be written as a product of prime numbers - the prime factors. This can useful when you calculate things - if you know that 30030 = 2*3*5*7*11*13 and 136367 = 7*7*11*11*23, then it is easy to see that 136367/30030 = 2*3*5*13/7*11*23; sometimes it is easy to find prime factors, at least if you know what the prime numbers are.

    Also, in the theory for finite groups, if p is a prime number, then any group with p elements is cyclic and any group with p^2 is Abelian (wikipedia is your friend, if you want to know more); cryptic, I know, but it has profound consequences.

  11. These are insanely large by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    The number of subatomic particles in the known universe is estimated to be less than 1.0e99. So if tag each subatomic particle with an integer you would run out of subatomic particles before you reach even one googol.

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  12. luggage combination by esperto · · Score: 2

    Great, now i have to change my luggage lock combination.

  13. Re:"each increasingly difficult to find." by Petronius+Arbiter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Math is also fascinating because of how it can often work around impossibility proofs.

    E.g., what class of polynomials is solvable depends on what elementary functions are allowed. With Jacobi theta functions, you can exactly solve quintics.

    http://mathoverflow.net/questi...

    For another example, with cosine and acos, you can exactly solve cubic polynomials, w/o using cube roots. Better, if the solutions are real, then the solution does not require imaginary numbers, unlike if you solve with cube roots.