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Verizon Vows To Build the First 5G Network In the US (networkworld.com)

alphadogg writes: Verizon says it will have the first 5G network in the U.S., a promise it probably can't fulfill until 2020 but will start working at this year. Verizon Chief Financial Officer Fran Shammo made the pledge Thursday on the company's fourth-quarter financial results call. He also repeated the company's plans for so-called 5G trials this year.

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  1. at $15 a gig in overages they will pay off the cos by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    at $15 a gig in overages they will pay off the cost fast.

  2. Why? 4g is fast enough by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, maybe I'm missing it, but 4g seems fast enough to me.

    I can watch video, play games, use apps, browse the web, etc. on 4g now.

    I'm struggling to imagine what I'd need another big speed boost for?

    Not that I'm against it, I am just trying to see the need. If it solves other issues, such as allowing more total traffic in the same radio spectrum, then fair enough, but the summary doesn't say that.

    So what are you doing with your phones that needs more speed?

  3. Re:Why? 4g is fast enough by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Speed isn't an issue for me, it's bandwidth.

    With the current caps and bandwidth limits in place, adding more speed is like dropping a bigger engine in a Ferrari that can only be driven on a quarter-mile track with a giant brick wall at the end. What's the point besides getting to crash into the wall that much sooner?

    However, given how bloated websites are getting due to so much javascript, shitty advertising, and other cruft, they may need the speed boost just to keep the page load times reasonable.

  4. Why is it called 5G? by darkain · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why is it called 5G? Because that's how much throughput you're allowed each month.

  5. Re:Why? 4g is fast enough by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I need a fifth G. I have an iPhone with a 6, which means my G's are two behind. I can tolerate maybe being one G behind, but this is getting ridiculous.

  6. 6G by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    Screw it. We are going with 6G.

  7. Jumping the Gun by Dorianny · · Score: 2

    Perhaps they should define what 5G is before pledging to build it

  8. Re:at $15 a gig in overages they will pay off the by msauve · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sorry, your answer doesn't count unless you show the math.

    Verizon is consistently rated as having the best network in the US. That costs money to build out, maintain, and upgrade.

    Currently, Sprint is losing money, T-Mo's profit margin is 1.68%, ATT's is 3.68%. Verizon's is 7.86%. Companies which don't have infrastructure of that scale to build and maintain: Apple's margin is 22.85%, MSFT 13.52%, GOOG 22.86%.

    Your implication that VZW is vastly overcharging simply doesn't fit the facts, but does make a good populist sound bite.

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  9. Re:Why? 4g is fast enough by Princeofcups · · Score: 2

    Ok, maybe I'm missing it, but 4g seems fast enough to me.

    Do a search on slashdot for "seems fast enough to me" for any article 5 years or older, and have a laugh.

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  10. Re: at $15 a gig in overages they will pay off the by msauve · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Hey, dumbass, guess what. Voice communication uses more data than texts or video streaming,"

    Hey, AC, guess what? You're extremely wrong. A full telco fidelity G.711 voice stream uses ~64 kbps (unidirectional). The recommended speech codec for VoLTE is G.722.2, which provides HD audio in <24 kbps. What video streaming are you doing in a 64 k channel? You can't even do decent stereo audio with that.

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  11. Re:at $15 a gig in overages they will pay off the by AbRASiON · · Score: 2

    A HUGE amount of Americans have absoloutely no idea in any level of how expensive and difficult it is to maintain a quality, low to mid bandwidth cellphone network, no CONCEPT at all.

    I've been seeing angry fist shaking posts about it for over a decade, "they have the audacity to charge me more than $10 for unlimited data!?!?!!?" kind of ridiculous bullshit.

    Obviously companies will try to squeeze you where they can but the amount of dumb shit people do on their phone in the US is mind boggling. I'm surprised ATT is making any money with the grandfathered iPhone unlimited plans just milking many MANY gbs a month of data across their network

    They seem to think that it's exactly the same as a cabled network (fibre / dsl) for maintenance and upgrades, no goddamn idea.

  12. Re:Why? 4g is fast enough by avjt · · Score: 2

    ITU-R has defined 5G, only they call it IMT-2020. Just like '4G' was actually IMT-Advanced, and '3G' was IMT-2000.

  13. Re:at $15 a gig in overages they will pay off the by thejynxed · · Score: 2

    That would be great and all, except there are Verizon wireless towers here that haven't seen a maintenance truck for any repairs or upgrades in the last four years, to the point that the lock & chain they use on the security fencing is rusted shut. Please tell me more about how they spend tons of money on maintenance and upgrades.

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