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Chronic Stress Could Lead To Depression and Dementia, Scientists Warn (independent.co.uk)

schwit1 writes: A major review of published research suggests that chronic stress and anxiety can damage areas of the brain involved in emotional responses, thinking and memory, leading to depression and even Alzheimer's disease. Dr Linda Mah, the lead author of the review carried out at a research institute affiliated to the University of Toronto, said: 'Pathological anxiety and chronic stress are associated with structural degeneration and impaired functioning of the hippocampus and the prefrontal cortex, which may account for the increased risk of developing neuropsychiatric disorders, including depression and dementia.'

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  1. Stress is a killer by ls671 · · Score: 1

    Of course stress is a killer. Although I do not know if there is a real correlation between them, I have seen women developing breast cancer after long periods of stress so who knows what else it could be bad for. Stress seems like a general malfunction that screws up everything.

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    1. Re:Stress is a killer by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Informative

      I like to remember that cortisol, a stress hormone, is also the one that kills salmon after their long stressful swim to their home river.

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    2. Re:Stress is a killer by beakerMeep · · Score: 1

      Well, that's a stressful thought

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    3. Re:Stress is a killer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Cortisol and, for some of them, bears :)

    4. Re:Stress is a killer by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      *Chronic* stress is a killer. Acute stress, below a certain threshold, is thought to be beneficial for living organisms.

    5. Re:Stress is a killer by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      I like to remember that cortisol, a stress hormone, is also the one that kills salmon after their long stressful swim to their home river.

      Well, that's a stressful thought

      and you're not even a salmon!
      One shot at sex and they're done...
      I wonder what's more stressful to them
      Transitioning from salt to fresh water
      Climbing mountains via fish ladders and waterfalls
      Knowing they have one shot at reproducing (do these scales make me look fat? do I have something stuck in my teeth? I hope I don't screw up the salmon dance {curse you, Chemical Brothers}, What if he/she doesn't like the color I'm wearing? ...ad infinitum)
      Talk about stress!

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    6. Re:Stress is a killer by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      Is workplace stress killing you? Have you been employed and now suffer from depression and dementia? Has someone you know been employed and then died? We can help! Call 1-800-SUE-THEM now! Once again, the number is 1-800-SUE-THEM.

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    7. Re: Stress is a killer by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      Just do what everyone else is doing and spray your stuff around everywhere.

      But first you tell the lady salmon it's good for her complexion...

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    8. Re:Stress is a killer by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Jesus Christ, I thought saying in my OP "long periods of stress" was clear enough.

      So let's say "long periods of stress" or even better: "long periods of stress caused by the same topic" == *Chronic*. OK?

      See my other post about the definition of stress. Short term normal stress doesn't qualify because you do not end up in endless loops:

      http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

      Thanks for the clarification anyway. It might help some.

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  2. What is stress? by iliketrash · · Score: 1

    What is stress? Seriously. I mean physiologically.

    1. Re:What is stress? by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Stress is when parts of your brain get caught in endless loops eating all your CPU.

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    2. Re:What is stress? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I mean physiologically.

      Anything that strains or exhausts the body. So there are 2 types of stress: eustress, or stress that has short-term benefits like exercise and sex. Then there's distress that has short term damage to the body like minor drug use or a panic attack. Modern living is fairly consistent in its demands on the body, which is usually a good thing allowing the problems of civilization to be structured and compartmentalized. The problem comes when all compartments of modern living cause stress. Then the body (and mind) cannot repair and refresh (and learn). Now people tend to say they're stressed even while doing minor activities, like talking to (polite) strangers. Scientists have determined that the brain in normal use is exhausted before the muscles are, in normal use. So the question becomes: Is this a misnaming of a minor activity which normal people can handle, or do mental tasks cause more distress than physical tasks?

    3. Re:What is stress? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So you need to strace the runaway program, eh?

    4. Re:What is stress? by Bengie · · Score: 2

      do mental tasks cause more distress than physical tasks?

      2-3 hours of hard thinking can exhaust me more than a 12 hours of physical labor.

    5. Re:What is stress? by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      or just kill it and never run shitty code from that source ever again.

    6. Re:What is stress? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I worked as an IT consultant for almost 10 years where I would encounter different network and computer problems daily.

      It was one of those situations where if I didn't have a solution there was no solution so I was always doing interesting things and learned a ton about different network configurations.

      Anyway, even though I was primarily sedentary, I would come home exhausted every single day.

      I have worked some very physical jobs in my life as well. Most notably, I worked as a loader at UPS for many years and I was never so exhausted as I was after a hard day of solving computer problems.

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  3. Dammit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, there's yet another thing to worry about.

  4. stress is the systemic killer in modern workplace by wierd_w · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Stress is known to cause systemic problems, ranging from weight gain, endocrine disruption, hair loss, and now neurodegernative conditions.

    However, the actual costs of these ill health effects is not factored into the cost benefit analyses of major employers in nearly all conditions, as something other than just a potential source of losing valuable worker resources.

    Seems to me that since the US has an endemic problem with stress and mental illness, at the same time also lacking good mental health infrastructure, that those causing the endemic problem (major employers who saddle on way more hours of work per employee than is sane or reasonable) should be made to pay this real cost, by being found culpable for causation of the very real health effects that thier high stress work environments induce, by means of having to pay for adult care in appropriate facilities for dementia patients, and for the costs of antipsychotics, psychoactive drugs, and mental health therapy for those they have harmed and are actively harming.

    By introducing this new liability, the profit motive of forcing people into those situations will evaporate, and better working conditions should come forward naturally.

    Of course, the reality is that these employers will seek radical outsourcing first, but if they all try that all at once, congress would have no choice but to intervene and introduce new labor and subcontracting laws.

    Other than forcing employers to bear the weight of their own shit, (and thus reducing profits), I dont see the downside.

  5. It greyed my hair by 45 @ work... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See subject: "Salt & Peppered" here because of it as a programmer-analyst/software-engineer & before it could ruin me I backed off "semi-retiring" early as far as working for others (had to, wasn't born rich etc.) deciding to start a business of my own (which has its stresses but it's not nearly as bad/constant as designing w/ analysis + coding & testing - plus, I get ALL the gravy minus overheads instead of "peanuts percentages" as compared to the entire cake that was possible by making others rich on my sweat... it's better this way).

    * Now, my money works for ME, not the other way around as it was for me from 16-45... I'd recommend it to ANYONE in fact but it's not possible for everyone (again, wasn't for me until I had enough put away to do what I now that made it all possible)... it's not all "daisies & balloons", and you're NEVER "truly free" and do still have to account to others (just less of them), but your chains are a LOT less on you.

    I tried contracting after full-time work for others (& still do in easier things than programming, more network-engineer/admin stuff now which is CAKE by comparison since you're working w/ things that DO work & have a roadmap way to get it done, just tedium & time consuming but NOT the stress of creation... working with already proven working things IS by far, easier than creating them from scratch - compounding it with a numbskull no-mind boss who has NO PLACE calling his subordinates, SUBORDINATES, when he can't do the job himself having had walked a mile in their shoes first (to be wise it's necessary and to be a GOOD leader that makes those sound decisions too), & who is of NO HELP since he's never done the job himself makes it worse (was lots of that in the CS/IT field in the 90's to early 21st, less now though))

    APK

    P.S.=> Stress kills - slowly: Come right down to it, imo @ least? It's not worth it looking back in hindsight, but it always looks that way looking back once the "ends have justified the means" for anyone/everyone who goes thru it and most us of do, & as I said, have to!

    HOWEVER:

    It's better than being part of the "Brotherhood of the Bell" ala the Glenn Ford film (living a lie that fronts you everything up front first asking for HORRIBLE prices later you have to live with & LIVE DOWN in your head and the eyes of others that know) ala the Glenn Ford film about fraternal secret handshaking type OR religious organizations of MANY kinds which I'd had offered to me 3 times in the former (can't figure out why either) circa 1994-2008 & I am GLAD I declined (see that Glenn Ford film to see what I meant here by analogy - I couldn't live w/ myself IF I took that route, & GLAD I didn't - it's for weasels, cheats, & sneaks who have NO consciences who "want it all fast" in a world of immediate gratifications, when the truth is you can 'grind it oout' & get it yourself w/ work & time (nothing truly good, comes easy))... apk

  6. Here's the actual article by umafuckit · · Score: 2

    In case you want to read the real article: here it is

  7. There is catharsis in FEAR by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

    The stress and depression on display in "Getting the Brush", for example, is hilarious.

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  8. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Stress is also why people will vote for people like Trump or Sanders. They're tired of being used up by the elite only to be expended like a used husk and replaced with fresh young replacements. Does the world really need 6 billon people on the planet when the "owner class" use automation and robotic to replace people" These political and owner class elite should be so damn lucky civil war hasn't started yet and they be overthrown in a French Revolution style result.

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  9. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by WalrusSlayer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Secondly, nobody is forcing the employees to work in such condition. The stressed out employees are always free to use the door and switch employer.

    People always make that sound so easy. For entire categories of workers, the ones often under the highest stress because they are being eaten up by not one but two jobs to keep themselves afloat, are the ones least likely to have the kind of job mobility that would result in any tangible improvement.

    Back in the 90's when I was a young buck and had every employer convinced of my high technical prowess, combined with an employment market that was seriously in the engineer's favor, I used to think that way too. And for me, I did have that kind of freedom. Several decades later, along with many changes to my life circumstance and the job market in which I inhabit, I have a much greater appreciation for limitations of how much control one has over their career. And that's if you're lucky enough work in a field where "career" is an appropriate term

  10. Re:Non correct title. by rfengr · · Score: 1

    Well if you were at escape velocity then gravity can't take over.

  11. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

    the actual costs of these ill health effects is not factored into the cost benefit analyses of major employers in nearly all conditions

    That is because it isn't the employers cost. "If you don't like it, quit"

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  12. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    Of course, the reality is that these employers will seek radical outsourcing first, but if they all try that all at once, congress would have no choice but to intervene and introduce new labor and subcontracting laws.

    Don't take this personal, because I believe you mean well. But I woke up this morning with a visceral reaction to BS this morning! In case you haven't noticed, Congress and the current POTUS are bought and paid for. Paul Ryan and the rest are full pro-outsourcing!!! It cuts right through party lines. As such, while I agree with you they should, they would never slit their own throat being the abject whores in office that they are!!

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  13. this begs the question... by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    how can you tell if your boss stressed and suffering from dementia or just stupid? ;)

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  14. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by Bengie · · Score: 2

    If you don't like Earth, find your own planet. Yep, entirely an "option".

  15. In other words, duh? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not surprising at all, especially the depression. A major component of stress is realizing or feeling like you don't have control over your life (due to your job, boss, spouse, financial situation etc.) so naturally that can lead to depression. What's the point of living without free will, feeling trapped? Gone on long enough, with cortisol eating at your innards, you'll gain weight too, which can just feed into more depression, as it lowers your health and self-esteem. Dementia seems a bit more complicated, but not I can't say I'm surprised, as paranoia and cynicism, an outcome of the depression, would be likely gateways.

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    1. Re:In other words, duh? by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      You've just explained why half of the USA (and probably most other advanced countries) population is on antidepressants.

  16. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

    Another example: A friend of mine is pursuing a PhD. His advisor is one of the world's leading experts in his field. And that sounds nice until you realize that "leading expert" translates to "absolute workaholic who works at least twelve hours a day seven days a week and expects the same from his postgrads". For the last eight years my friend has been run ragged with fun things like ninety-hour work weeks (mostly unpaid, of course) doing completely unrelated stuff for the work group during which he was naturally expected to still work on his thesis in his spare time. And of course this unrelated work had to be flawless, after all if the work group's new paper can't make it into Nature why even bother having a work group in the first place?

    These days he's actually finding the time to write - not because the workload has lightened but because the university has started asking the supervisor pointed questions about why certain people are taking so long writing their thesis. But he's having huge problems actually working on his thesis because over the years he started slipping into depression and what's increasingly looking like burnout syndrome... what a surprise.

    Of course he always had the option of walking away and finding a different university to write his thesis at. Except that it would've seriously pissed off his supervisor who happens to know pretty much every other potential supervisor in the country. Even if his supervisor isn't vindictive, the mere chance that he might be is enough to make leaving an unfeasibly dangerous option.

    Makes me happy I got my master's-equivalent degree and left for a programming job. Postgrads run on fumes and a constant fear of their supervisor. I rather prefer the comparative tranquility of mere office politics.

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  17. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

    Wait a minute... how is Trump or Sanders not the 1%?

    We hate the 1% so let's vote for the 1%?

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  18. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by nido · · Score: 1

    and for the costs of antipsychotics, psychoactive drugs, and mental health therapy for those they have harmed and are actively harming.

    Most of the types of drugs you mention are worse than doing nothing. There are some good therapists out there, but they are uncommon.

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  19. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by wyHunter · · Score: 1

    So he'll get a PhD and be burned out before he begins his career. Sweet.

  20. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by wyHunter · · Score: 1

    Don't forget Obama and his love of TPP and TISA.

  21. Re:stress is the systemic killer in modern workpla by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

    Uh-huh. Once he gets that degree the first thing we'll do is to talk him into taking a sabbatical. Well, it won't take much talking. Even if it means we'll have to take turns providing couches for him to crash on, he really needs some stress-free time. Hopefully that'll help him avoid the worst of it.

    If it doesn't he's still fluent in C and there's a lot of unfilled tech jobs around these parts. Not what he dedicated years to getting a degree in but defeinitely much preferable to unemployment.

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