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Why the Calorie Is Broken (arstechnica.com)

New submitter ami.one writes: Cynthia Graber and Nicola Twilley explain how we are still using a century old method for measuring the calories in our food and the calories spent in different human activities. Essentially, there is a very big difference between burning stuff in a bomb calorie-meter and the extremely complex ways our body extracts energy from food. In fact, the exact process of digestion is yet to be understood sufficiently at a micro level, and years from being replicated to any close degree. Plus, the way our bodies spend calories for a given activity is hugely different from the way a car consumer gasoline and dependent on a number of parameters — some of which are not even known currently. Therefore, balancing calories in to Calories out is not so stupidly simple as it seems to the underweight layperson . Update: 01/28 22:09 GMT by T : Sorry for the duplicate post; it was a long night.

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  1. Why SlashDot is broken? by kkoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But we know why. Useless staff.

    1. Re: Why SlashDot is broken? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      Timothy is a genius. When there's nothing in the queue he just reposts the worst article from yesterday, and it's good for ten kilopageviews from people complaining about it. Printing money.

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  2. How about "Why is Slashdot broken?" for dupes by CajunArson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Then again, dupes of stupid stories have been with Slashdot since the beginning. It kind of makes you wonder what (if anything) the so-called "editors" of this site do other than take kickbacks from the likes of Hassleton and that d-bag over at Forbes.

    Then again, there's an important social policy angle to the Slashdot editing "quality": It's a powerful argument that they should be paid less than minimum wage.

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  3. My Very Original Thoughts on the Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Nutrition is a subject for which everybody should understand the basics. Unfortunately, this is hard. Not only is there a ton of conflicting research about how to properly fuel your body, there's a multi-billion-dollar industry with financial incentive to muddy the waters. Further, one of the most basic concepts for how we evaluate food — the calorie — is incredibly imprecise. "Wilbur Atwater, a Department of Agriculture scientist, began by measuring the calories contained in more than 4,000 foods. Then he fed those foods to volunteers and collected their faeces, which he incinerated in a bomb calorimeter. After subtracting the energy measured in the faeces from that in the food, he arrived at the Atwater values, numbers that represent the available energy in each gram of protein, carbohydrate and fat. These century-old figures remain the basis for today's standards."

      In addition to the measuring system being outdated, the amount of calories taken from a meal can vary from person to person. Differences in metabolism and digestive efficiency add sizable error bars. Then there are issues with serving sizes and preparation methods. Research is now underway to find a better measure of food intake than the calorie. One possibility for the future is mapping your internal chemistry and having it analyzed with a massive database to see what foods work best for you. Another may involve tweaking your gut microbiome to change how you extract energy from certain foods.

    Oh and my captcha is pinhead which obviously refers to the editors.

  4. Why Slashdot is Broken (EOM) by turp182 · · Score: 2

    That is it. Dupe!

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  5. Timothy, do you even read this site? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This story was on the front-page yesterday, do you guys not even TRY to keep track of this shit?

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    1. Re:Timothy, do you even read this site? by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 2

      This story was on the front-page yesterday, do you guys not even TRY to keep track of this shit?

      I was thinking maybe we should get pornhub to at least run the /. headlines on their front page - maybe then they would be noticed by the editors here.

    2. Re:Timothy, do you even read this site? by Longjmp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This story was on the front-page yesterday, do you guys not even TRY to keep track of this shit?

      No, they don't.
      Here's a typical working day of slashdot "editors":

      Browsing the submissions: 3 hours.
      Clicking on links provided with the submissions: 2 hours.
      Trying to find the most misleading headlines for a story: 2 hours
      Finding the most misleading quote in one of the related articles: 3 hours
      Thinking of a clever remark to add to the quotes and fail: 5 hours

      Hey, and even slashdot editors need to eat, drink and sleep, so there's no time to check what was posted yesterday.

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    3. Re:Timothy, do you even read this site? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      I for one welcome the return of regular dupes. I have fond memories of the time when there were typically two or three a day, back in the Taco era. The era of Slashdot Radio and Scientology attacks, when big sites were regularly Slashdotted because CDNs hadn't been invented.

      Timothy is just feeling nostalgic. Netcraft confirms it.

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    4. Re:Timothy, do you even read this site? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      This story was on the front-page yesterday, do you guys not even TRY to keep track of this shit?

      Its also at the very top of the mobile site which keeps the story with the most number of comments at the top of the page.
      It's literally the top of the front page right now for many devices.

  6. I think you mean kilocalories by mr_mischief · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you're going to complain about misunderstandings among laypeople, let's start with the proper name for the unit used pretty much everywhere: you're talking about kilocalories when you talk to a layperson in the US about the "calorie".

    Second, even if in a typical case we could perfectly balance energy intake to activities, it's been shown that many bodies are atypical. We are not feeding spherical cows of uniform density in a vacuum. These are people with more or less muscle mass, different things going on in their endocrine systems, different overall body mass, different drug intakes, different vitamin and protein levels and sources, and different genetics.

    The real-world test for a dietary plan is whether it helps you maintain your health and desired weight. There is enough research to recommend some alternatives as definitely better than others, but there's been no definitive perfect diet. Ultimately the perfect diet is one that allows you to be both healthy and satisfied, and that it can't do on its own. The dietary plan can contribute, but it also takes other lifestyle factors.

  7. Underweight layperson by LateArthurDent · · Score: 2

    Therefore, balancing calories in to Calories out is not so stupidly simple as it seems to the underweight layperson.

    What about the previously slightly obese person and currently healthy weight person (by BMI measurement)? Because that's me. And even during the obese period, I never had any delusions about it not being as simple as balancing calories in and out. It was a matter of changing my mindset so that I was actually serious about the work involved.

    Are they right that the number of calories you take in isn't exact? Of course. It's even harder to measure the number of calories out. Does this matter? Not in the least. They're good enough rough approximations. If you're trying to match your calories in to your calories out to a net -5 calories, you're doing it wrong. Aim for at least -500. Even if you're wrong by, say, 400 calories, you're still negative -100 and in the long term will lose weight. Sometimes you'll be wrong in the other direction and will be negative even more that 500 calories for that day. Chances are, in fact, that the long-term average will approximate what you're aiming for.

  8. Re:New Calories by rossdee · · Score: 2

    The unit of energy in the mtric system is the Joule

    with the typical metric multipliers = 1 KWhr is 3.6 MegaJoules

  9. Re:YOU FIRED by Rei · · Score: 2

    And the sun is high!

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