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Windows 10 Now a 'Recommended Update' For Windows 7 and 8.1 Users (betanews.com)

Mark Wilson writes: Microsoft has been accused of pushing Windows 10 rather aggressively, and the company's latest move is going to do nothing to silence these accusations. For Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users, Windows 10 just became a 'recommended update' in Windows Update.

This is a change from the previous categorization of the upgrade as an 'optional update' and it means that there is renewed potential for unwanted installations. After the launch of Windows 10, there were numerous reports of not only the automatic download of OS installation files, but also unrequested upgrades. The changed status of the update means that, on some machines, the installation of Windows 10 could start automatically.

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  1. MS Wants to Own Your Machine for Good by Kunedog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Microsoft is sick and tired of customers resisting their latest shiny upgrade, and downright pissed off when they resist successfully, as with Vista and 8. So they are going all-in on establishing the capability to push any and all code/UI they want, for any purpose they want (DRM/adware/spyware/forced account login/whatever), to your machine at any time. If the current Windows 10 updates are this evil, imagine what they'll be like when users have no alternative.

    1. Re:MS Wants to Own Your Machine for Good by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And after all they work of training users to keep systems patched, Microsoft goes out and makes patches a bad thing. Nice move!

    2. Re: MS Wants to Own Your Machine for Good by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because it's MY MACHINE, perhaps?

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    3. Re:MS Wants to Own Your Machine for Good by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 5, Funny

      stupid loosers

      Literacy isn't your strong point, is it?

      It is if he's talking about incompetent archers.

  2. Family member's WIN computer got locked out by Trachman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Rather than fiddling with keys and password recoveries, we have just installed Linux Mint.

    No complains or further questions. People use computer for browsing mostly.

  3. Why WOULDN'T It Be Recommended? by zenlessyank · · Score: 5, Funny

    MSoft only has our best interest. Sheez. So sensitive.

  4. As someone who "upgraded" to Win10 by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let me just say, "don't".

    Never mind the spyware. I had Win8.1 for 18 months before I "upgraded" to Win10. Since the upgrade I've had:
    1) ctl + left mouse to move a window. Release the wrong button first and the window goes full screen instead.
    2) Random mouse locations when clicking left button. Ex: in a web browser hit the back button, it goes full screen. In a web browser click a bookmark group, it minimizes. etc etc etc
    3) Close laptop, go to bed. Get up in the morning, laptop has installed updates and rebooted, wants your permission to continue.
    4) Default app behaviours change suddenly. Just this morning I opened a pdf on my hard drive and Edge opened it,, not the pdf file viewer I've used for the last few years.
    5) Uptime seems to be a week. If it's not updating then when you open your laptop it just doesn't respond.

    I bought this laptop November 2013, it came with Win 8.0 and I immediately upgraded to 8.1. Had no issues. Mistakenly "upgraded" to Win10 last summer, all the above issues have plagued me since. If I had to do it all over again I would, in order, stay 8.1 (I'm a gamer, need Windows), go Linux, go Mac, go Win10.

  5. Microsoft Recommendations by rcase5 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've made it my business to never do what Microsoft recommends. That has served me well over the years.

  6. This is what happens when monopoly revenue falls.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Windows Revenue is down 50% because of the mobile revolution. Then there are technologies like Citrix that are challenging Microsoft's dominance in corporate America.

    The new business model is obvious; monetize non-business customers by trapping them in a windows through a walled garden while selling their personal information to the highest bidder while protecting the corporate deployment base.

    Microsoft thinks all their customers are mom and dad surfing e-mail on their home pc's when in reality they just killed tens of thousands of small businesses, small pc shops, SOHO offices and so forth running windows PC's with legacy code. This is the knucklehead moment where they behead themselves and the market realizes just how dangerous Microsoft really is. They are going to tick off a lot of people and impress nobody if they pull this off successfully; given the state of the market and computers in general I doubt they are going to get out of this unscathed.

  7. Another FU for M$ by n0w0rries · · Score: 5, Informative

    They don't consider how this crap works in a slow internet environment. I'm on boat in Mexico. Internet is slow when you can get it at all. I don't have the bandwidth for your ads and your spyware. I need weather data! Ever try and use outlook on slow internet? it spends most of it's time [not responding]!

    I had a situation where my long range wifi usb port pulled out. So I figured I'd just change my mac address on my notebook to the one that died so I can keep using the internet service I paid for... but NOOOOO they block me from doing that.

    What happened to when a computer used to be a tool? Now it's a spyware machine I'm supposed to pay for?!

    1. Re:Another FU for M$ by camperdave · · Score: 5, Informative

      What happened to when a computer used to be a tool? Now it's a spyware machine I'm supposed to pay for?!

      It's still a tool, just one for the other team.

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  8. Make sure Windows 10 does what you need it to do.. by mykepredko · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just in case you're looking for another reason not to switch.

    I put this conversation up as a discussion topic here on /. - http://answers.microsoft.com/e...

    Com port management has never been great in Windows and in Win 10, if you are doing device development work or working with different devices which allocate com ports, you may find yourself running out of them and/or applications no longer working because the allocated port number is higher than the range the application handles.

    Very disappointing non-response by Microsoft and their employees.

  9. Re:fuck you microsoft! by epyT-R · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know, right? That's pretty sad that they can't even give it away for free. They have to force it.

  10. Re: Farewell to the soulskill and samzenpus by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Funny

    And now poor Timmy is working his fingers bloody posting stories day and night! But at least we now have Unicode support...

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  11. Re:Hands up everyone by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Informative

    What do you mean by "misread"? That's basically the recommendation of every security researcher.

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  12. Re:Farewell to the soulskill and samzenpus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    soulskill's profile says "former editor" when before it had some info on it. The foss article was updated with this:

    All this goodwill towards the user community might be coming at a cost, however. I’ve heard reports from credible sources of layoffs at Slashdot, with many longtime employees being shown the door, with their jobs either eliminated or handed over to less costly and relatively inexperienced staff. Goodwill or no, this can’t have a positive effect on the site’s users’ experience. We can expect that the same cost cutting is probably happening at SourceForge, which is already struggling.

  13. Re:"Close laptop..." OMG!!! by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 5, Funny

    Windows 10 is terribly unpredictable. It'll sleep with your wife if you leave the room.

    That happened to me the other day. My wife said the laptop went to sleep on her after ten minutes, just like me.

  14. Re:Farewell to the soulskill and samzenpus by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    " Iâ(TM)ve heard reports from credible sources of layoffs at Slashdot, with many longtime employees being shown the door, with their jobs either eliminated or handed over to less costly and relatively inexperienced staff. Goodwill or no, this canâ(TM)t have a positive effect on the siteâ(TM)s usersâ(TM) experience."

    It can hardly get any worse, can it? The longtime employees weren't doing their jobs. The editors didn't edit, we still can't copy and paste without stupid characters appearing in the copy, they would post at least one dupe a week...

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  15. Re: And when are they going to allow 7 Enterprise. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jeebus, look at how complicated those instructions are just to disable it. If they had wanted to they could have made it a simple checkbox in the install pop-up.

    Yes, but then people would have used it.

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