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Windows 10 Passes Windows XP In Market Share

An anonymous reader writes: Six months after its release, Windows 10 has finally passed 10 percent market share. Not only that, but the latest and greatest version from Microsoft has also overtaken Windows 8.1 and Windows XP, according to the latest figures from Net Applications. Windows 10 had 9.96 percent market share in December, and gained 1.89 percentage points to hit 11.85 percent in January. Maybe it will jump even faster soon, but not necessarily for the best of reasons.

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  1. Of course ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because they're kind of forcing people to update, whether they want to or not.

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    1. Re:Of course ... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's like claiming more people have health insurance when you force them to hand over their money to a private company whether they want to or not.

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    2. Re:Of course ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How is health insurance different from auto insurance?

      Driving is optional. Breathing isn't.

    3. Re:Of course ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're still required to hand over money to a private company whether you want to or not.

      Auto insurance isn't mandated at a Federal level. Many states do not require auto insurance, even for people owning and operating vehicles. Surety bonds are the usual alternative.

      Choosing to forego all that is hardly comparable to the fact that you now need to put a bullet in your head to avoid being fined if you don't want health insurance.

    4. Re:Of course ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah. Shame on Microsoft for making people get off an OS that isn't receiving updates and for pushing for people to get off an OS that will stop receiving them in a handful of years.

      The biggest problem is they've decided that users don't get a vote in if they want this, they've decided to shove in additional tracking and ad infrastructure without telling people or having them opt-in, and have more or less decided it's their computer and not yours.

      It is, and remains MY FUCKING COMPUTER. Whether or not I upgrade it isn't their choice.

      And given their track record, I'm also betting they're going to leave people with borked systems, and then refuse to do anything about it.

      Everything about this upgrade is largely stuff which benefits Microsoft, and which is being done TO their users ... because all those people who will now get "you must get auto-updates which we will do anything we wish with your computer", those people are eventually going to get screwed by that idiotic policy.

      Don't fucking act like Microsoft is doing this to benefit people. All that extra telemetry and ad information is to benefit them.

      Windows 10 is basically spyware.

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    5. Re:Of course ... by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

      How is health insurance different from auto insurance? You're still required to hand over money to a private company whether you want to or not.

      I know many people who live in cities who do not own a car. So they don't pay car insurance.

    6. Re:Of course ... by ls671 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is this why I find that the look and behavior of my desktop have changed lately??? I can't seem to find where to click anymore to do the tasks I used to do. I had trouble and failed to upload pictures to Facebook lately while I swear I was an expert at it before.

      Also, some strange menus appear and I can't find a way to close them so I need to unplug my computer every time in order to reboot it. I asked my nephew to come and have a look at my computer next time he is in town because I am afraid I might have a virus...

      How do I find out if I am still on XP or if am running Windows 10???

      Thank you very much sir!

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    7. Re:Of course ... by aaron4801 · · Score: 2

      Except that there is no direct upgrade path from XP to 10, so the systems that MS is forcing upgrades on (7/8) ARE still receiving updates. XP has been EOL for almost two years now, and while there are undoubtedly some people that are just now getting around to upgrading/buying a new machine, most of the XP decline in real numbers has already happened. This market share news is almost certainly a function of WIn10 upgrades rather than XP reductions.
      For people making the conscious choice to move to 10, there is no issue, but it's hard to determine how many "upgraders" really made that conscious choice due to Microsoft's spammy behavior.

    8. Re:Of course ... by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

      And dead people aren't required to have health insurance.

      That seems a little extreme just to get out of paying for health insurance.

    9. Re:Of course ... by PRMan · · Score: 2

      If you don't like it, your only choice is to install Linux...

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    10. Re:Of course ... by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 2

      That's because you're a damned moron if you can't figure out why auto insurance is different from health insurance.

      (Please be trolling! Please be trolling!)

    11. Re:Of course ... by Cito · · Score: 2

      That's why my gaming pc I still run windows 7

      it's being patched till 2020, by that time it'll be obsolete but it's overkill at the moment

      x79 chipset intel core i7 3960x
      32 gigs ram
      2 x evga 670 ftw editions sli
      ssd system drive
      wd black hdd for game installs

      I should be fairly good to go with windows 7 for a while longer. At most perhaps a video card upgrade in a year or so.
      then 2018 I'll start rebuilding new game pc :P
      I always try to build one to last 5 years so i tend to go overboard, but all my past systems had been AMD, and my 2 linux boxes are my 2 previous 'game' boxes the oldest is a fileserver with bunch of hdd's tossed in as a home "cloud". And my previous is debian/browsing/etc while im gaming on main screen.

      I may go back to amd to save money cause when I built this x79 system I bought it when the cards and chips were brand new so it ran me around $1850

      Im definitely not taking this to windows 10. Once this pc gets replaced in 2018/19. It will be reinstalled with linux and by then I may just stick with steam on linux gaming.

      I really think windows 7 will be my last microsoft OS. Unless someone at microsoft gets head out of ass which I doubt will ever happen.

  2. Late to the game by bondsbw · · Score: 5, Informative

    Windows 10 surpassed XP back in October.

    It has now passed every OS other than Windows 7.

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    1. Re:Late to the game by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, using Win10 is not dumber than using WinXP. At least there is still some kind of support for Win10 instead of using a security nightmare, potentially connected to the internet. "Better" is relative, though. It's kinda like sitting on a pile of broken glass instead of using a rotating saw as a support device for your ass.

      If it was, say, using Win10 instead of Win7, yes, you'd have a case.

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  3. Now that's a low bar by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unfortunately this is no a limbo contest. Crossing such a low bar of an obsolete unsupported os installs with a flag ship os that older os try to force on you is not impressive.

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  4. Netapplications a dubious source for this by bazmail · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Many websites are blocking Windows XP as it doesn't support stronger than SHA-1 certs so the numbers will be skewed. Win XP clients will be invisible to Net applications metrics.

    1. Re:Netapplications a dubious source for this by Bert64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Only if you're using IE, you can still access such sites using Firefox which has its own SSL libraries.

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  5. This numbers are dishonest by ilsaloving · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsoft is forcing people to update, which makes these numbers meaningless. The only people who arn't going to update are the ones with the knowledge to block it.

    This is like saying murders are way down, but ignoring to mention that you've put the entire population in straight jackets.

    The fact that despite these strong-arming efforts, they're *still* only just now surpassing XP and Win8, says a lot about how much people don't want this latest and not-so-greatest OS.

    I feel bad for Microsoft developers. When I tried the OS, I actually *liked* it. But then Microsoft had to go screw everything up with their OS-as-a-privacy-killing-service bullshit.

  6. Re:This is excellent news by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Funny

    I actually use both. I find Windows 10 a well-made OS, finally catching up to Linux at current. It's usable and reasonable, although I had to go into the installer and modify the boot.wim and install.wim file because it was hard-freezing my CPU at boot. Had to remove the GenuineIntel_mcupdate.dll file out of system32 (it was inserting invalid microcode). This is still a problem on the current Windows 10 release.

    I use Linux a lot more, but Ubuntu doesn't support ASP.NET development. Mono installs pretty broken, and monodevelop is horrendously unusable. Besides that, I wanted Windows for Unity 3D.

    The Microsoft graphics stack still has some bugs, enough for OpenGL rendering of 2D canvases to stutter and spit when trying to use graphics applications. Things like Krita work better on Linux, although Wacom driver support is slightly better on Windows. ArtRage works decent, too, but only on Windows.

  7. By design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem here in the US is that we have neither free market health care nor socialized health care, but rather the bastard offspring of the two combined. The result is not the best of both worlds, but the worst of both worlds: the socalized part serves only to corral the sheep into the shearing barn, where the "free market" part is free to gouge them into financial ruin. The end result is that in the US, medical expenses are the #1 cause of bankruptcy -- and that's by design, my friends. All by design.

  8. Everybody uses health care by sjbe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nobody has to own a car. Obamacare is a tax on existence.

    Please find me a single person who never uses health care and incurs no cost to the system. Go ahead, I'll wait.

    Actually no I won't because there is no such person. EVERYBODY uses the health care system whether they want to or not and therefore everybody should have some skin in the game whether they want to or not. Every other civilized country in the world has figured this out. Auto insurance and health insurance are not and never will be the same because not everybody needs to drive or own a car.

  9. Tracking 40,000 Web Sites + 430 search engines. by westlake · · Score: 2

    Many websites are blocking Windows XP as it doesn't support stronger than SHA-1 certs so the numbers will be skewed.

    But not enough to matter.

    We collect data from the browsers of site visitors to our exclusive on-demand network of HitsLink Analytics and SharePost clients.
    The network includes over 40,000 websites, and spans the globe.
    We 'count' unique visitors to our network sites, and only count one unique visit to each network site per day. This is part of our quality control process to prevent fraud, and ensure the most accurate portrayal of Internet usage market share.

    The data is compiled from approximately 160 million unique visits per month.
    The information published on www.netmarketshare.com is an aggregation of the data from this network of hosted website traffic statistics.

    In addition, we classify 430+ referral sources identified as search engines. Aggregate traffic referrals from these engines are summarized and reported monthly. The statistics for search engines include both organic and sponsored referrals.

    These statistics include monthly information on key statistics such as browser trends (e.g. Internet Explorer vs. Firefox market share), search engine referral data (e.g. Yahoo vs. Bing vs. Google traffic market share) and operating system share (Windows vs. Mac vs. Linux market share or even the iOS market share vs. Android) The data is made available free of charge on a monthly basis that includes monthly usage market share and trends for browsers, operating systems and search engines.

    I would like to see some examples of sites which are blocking XP and draw numbers on the scale of, let us say, Amazon.com, CNN, Fox News, Disney or Universal Studios.

  10. Re:This is excellent news by sims+2 · · Score: 2

    How did you get windows 10 to only use 6GB HD space after install and updates?
    The computer I'm writing this on is a windows 7 laptop the windows folder is 62.6GB. As it happens I have a few machines running windows 10 all up to date:
    A Lenovo win10 bare install 8.84GB
    A Dell upgraded from win8 9.49GB
    A Hp upgraded from win8 15.9GB
    A Hp upgraded from win8 21.8GB

    Windows seems to like space on a old sony vaio VGN-UX490N after reinstalling windows vista from recovery iirc it only had 3GB free space.

    Sure you can use nlite and strip out everything but the calculator but still?

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  11. Too bad it doesn't work. by tekrat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was called to a friend's house to fix his PC. He has downloaded and installed the Windows 10 update on his Win 7, HP-1100 series box. The box itself is completely stock because my friend doesn't know much about the inner working of PCs.

    Either way, Windows 10 refused to see the CDROM/DVD drive, which, being HP, is I believe is also a lightscribe burner. But I digress.

    Hardware manager took a long time to find, but once found, was useless. It's not that it didn't recognize the hardware due to a lack of driver, it's as if the hardware physically did not exist. You couldn't even force Windows to try looking for it because it claimed there were no hardware problems.

    So, I go to HP's website to try and find a driver that would force Windows to admit a CD drive existed. HP's site offer to diagnose my PC's problems. I let it. Animated graphic cycles for what seems like a day, and then I get the wonderful message "An error has occurred, please try again later" Bullshit -- this has probably never worked, but HP won't admit that. I try and manually find the driver based on the Box's model.

    There are no drivers available for this machine. At least, nothing for Windows 10. How is this possible?

    I was unwilling to take apart the machine to find the type of CD drive it is (assuming HP had marked anything), so, with little choice left, I had Win 10 degrade itself back to Win 7.

    After 30 minutes of that; we were back to Windows 7 and the CD drive worked as expected.

    Windows 10 is a piece of shit, and it's apparently an unsupported piece of shit. Why are there no drivers or any way to force Windows 10 to look for a common piece of hardware? a CD/DVD drive? That's like not recognizing a mouse.

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    1. Re:Too bad it doesn't work. by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's probably a CD on a PATA interface that's not supported by Win10. That would cause the drive not to show up at all. You may have an error elsewhere showing a controller not supported. I'd swap out the drive for a modern SATA DVD or blu-ray drive, either plugging it into an open SATA port or putting in a SATA controller card if none exists.

      Oh, who am I kidding? I wouldn't do that. I'd just backrev to Win7 like you did. Win10 doesn't have anything worth having that justifies screwing with the hardware.

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  12. What part of everyone was unclear? by sjbe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Amish

    What about them? They go to hospitals, they use medicines, etc. They require health care just like everybody else. The fact that they try to do it as much as possible within a community does not mean they do not participate in our health care system. Their church acts very much like a private group health insurance program that they all pay into.

    Not everyone believes in private insurance.

    So what? Ideology regarding private versus public insurance is irrelevant. Everybody uses health care whether they want to or not and therefore everybody needs to pay into the system to the extent they are able. Health care is a basic human right and nobody should be unable to get treatment because they are poor. We all need it sooner or later so we all should pay. Most sensible countries have solved this problem with a public health care system. The US has gone a different route (mostly for idiotic ideological reasons) but the result still needs to be that EVERYBODY pays whether they like it or not.

    1. Re:What part of everyone was unclear? by dbIII · · Score: 2

      According to you, I should spend everything I own and my whole life's labor paying for the healthcare of everyone else, including whores, addicts, and people with incurable fatal genetic defects.

      What's the wild man of the woods doing in some place with electricity and network infrastructure - doesn't he know that his weird "I've got mine" ideology is supposed to depend on operating outside society or otherwise he'll just look like a sociopathic prick?
      Civilisation means sharing the load, even for those that in a far more brutal society would be left out in the snow to die.

  13. Re:It's the privacy, stupid by vux984 · · Score: 2

    If you using 7 or 8 the telemetry stuff is being backported and applied to your OS.

    If you aren't sure how to prevent 10 from leaking info, then you aren't sure how to prevent 7 or 8 from leaking info either, and not upgrading isn't really a win for you.

    This is my current go to:
    https://www.safer-networking.o...

    If any one has any criticism of it, I'm definitely listening.

    For what its worth, I've upgraded my main PC to 10 now, and after a few customizations to basically shut off cortana, web search from the start menu, live tiles, and other crap, I'm pretty happy with it.

    There are quite a few real improvements.

    Staying on 7 over the privacy didn't make sense given they were rotting the privacy in 7 as well. And if I'm going to run something like spybot on 7 ... then I figured I might as well run it on 10.