All 12 Member Countries Sign Off On the TPP (freezenet.ca)

Dangerous_Minds writes: News is surfacing that the TPP has officially been signed by all 12 member countries. This marks the beginning of the final step towards ratification. Freezenet has a quick rundown of what copyright provisions are contained in the agreement, including traffic shaping, site blocking, enforcement of copyright when infringement is "imminent," and a government mandate for ISPs to install backdoors for the purpose of tracking copyright infringement on the Internet.

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It's official, you all live in a Dictatorship

[WillAffleckUW]

Now any corporation can sure your country, but you can't vote on the selling out of your rights to foreign corporations.

Are you happy yet?

Days like this I wish I'd never helped create the Internet or the tools you use, or let it escape from academia.

Selling our sovereignty to corporations

[Sebby]

The TPP (or as I've seen it referred to - the "Tyrant Protection Plan") is nothing but a sham, no part of it has anything to do with 'trade', and all of it having to do with corporations ensuring their profits, at the cost of those countries' citizens.

Why else would they be permitted to sue countries/governments over alleged threats to their 'perceived potential profits' due to new laws (such as environment protections laws that might forbid those companies from operating under these new laws) passed by said countries.

Re:Selling our sovereignty to corporations

[gstoddart]

no part of it has anything to do with 'trade', and all of it having to do with corporations ensuring their profits, at the cost of those countries' citizens

That's what "trade" means these days, didn't you get the memo?

This whole TPP is basically the foundation of an international corporate bill of rights, which places the demands of corporations into law around the world.

Pushed by the US government, who are conveniently on the payroll and dedicated to advancing those corporate interests.

This "treaty" is pretty much the global oligarchy tightening the noose. Entrenching copyright, imaginary property, and making sure to be able to fight governments ability to pass laws is the entire fucking point.

Citizens? This isn't to benefit us ... unless you mean corporate citizens.

Re:The Republicans are destroying our lives

[DarkOx]

Right, because an international agreement negotiated by a Democratic administration is some hope to be blamed on the Republican party.

Pull your head out of your ass. The Establishment is the problem, If you are remotely considering voting for HRC or Rubio, THIS IS YOUR FAULT.

Vote Sanders, or Vote Cruz as you like but do not allow HRC or Rubio to get nominated!

Signed, not Ratified...

[Striek]

It hasn't been ratified though. There are significant benefits to being an original signatory on any international treaty, and every member country is afraid of being left in the dust if they don't. There are provisions requiring signatories to ratify certain provisions, but it has not been ratified yet, only signed, and there is a big difference.

The TPP might actually be a net financial gain for the United States - unfortunately, at the expense of other countries involved. A number of provisions in it give an unfair advantage to the US, because they have demanded that these provisions be put in.

Michael Geist is doing a very good review of all the problems with the TPP, and has been posting daily about it for about a month now. It's a rather Canadian perspective on it, but a good read nonetheless.

Re:Signed, not Ratified...

[mrchaotica]

The TPP might actually be a net financial gain for the United States

...at the cost of a net civil rights loss for United States Citizens. And that's the fucking problem! The whole goddamn thing is an omnibus bill of all the freedom-destroying shit the oligarchs and lobbyists can't jam through Congress halfway-legitimately.

ISDS

[Anonymous Coward]

Investor-state dispute settlements here we come

According to The Nation's interpretation of leaked documents in 2012, countries would be required to conform their domestic laws and regulations to the TPP Agreement, which includes provisions on government spending in certain areas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership#Investor.E2.80.93state_arbitration_.28ISDS.29

Welcome to shadowrun chummer

Re:The Republicans are destroying our lives

[Penguinisto]

^^This, a million fucking times this!

Corporatism knows no party, and cares for none but one driving ideology: profit.

The sooner you partisan asshats get that through your skulls, the better off we'll all be.

Oh please let it pass.

[Areyoukiddingme]

According to Michael Geist, TPP requires implementation of a DMCA-style take-down notice system, while eliminating the good faith belief requirement. Oh please oh please let it pass. YouTube? I'm sorry, it infringes. All of it. Vevo? Infringing. Take it down. Redtube? Infringing. Take it down. If TPP is implemented, it is our duty to see to it that no automated take-down system in any of the 12 countries will work anymore. And it will be legal.

Finally all those spam botnets will have a productive use.

Re: The Republicans are destroying our lives

[Anonymous Coward]

Hillary being "against" it is hilarious because you have to remember that this thing has been going on long enough that she literally was involved in negotiating it. Her hands are already all over the TPP. The only reason she's "against" it is because Bernie is against it. Once Bernie loses the nomination (and he will, democracy doesn't mean shit to the DNC), she'll forget all about being "against" the TPP.

Re:The Republicans are destroying our lives

[Gavagai80]

Clinton and Sanders are both against the TPP. Not sure why you're spewing anti-Hillary stuff here.

Clinton was in favor of the TPP until recently when she realized she has to be against it to win the primary. There's every reason to think she'd be for it again if elected.