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Don't Hate Perky Morning People: It Might Be Their DNA's Fault. (arstechnica.com)
New submitter Striek writes: Aggregated genome data from 23andme.com was analyzed and published in Nature magazine, and now further evidence has been added to the belief that being a morning person or a night owl is wired in our DNA. It's not the first time such research has been published, either. So those of us who work late into the night and prefer to rise at noon, much to the chagrin of our partners, can point to our DNA as the reason, not our lazy habits.
Move.
If someone's DNA is what makes them bad, then that is absolutely a reason why they are unsalvageable and should be killed immediately.
My grandfather once told me that every morning at 6 he would have a healthy bowel movement. The only problem was he usually didn't wake up until 7.
I hate their DNA.
Don't step on the baby.
In my experience it's the "morning people" that are judgey against non-morning people. It seems like it should be morning people that shouldn't hold their genes as "superior"
PS: I don't reply to ACs.
Us non-morning people don't hate morning people because they are perky. We hate them because they assume that everybody else should be a morning person too. Every asshole that suggests things like a 7:30am meeting is just rubbing their early-rising do-gooderness instead the late-riser's faces. They know you feel like a slacker if you suggest to your boss that it's too early for you. In offices with set-your-own-schedule, morning people also like to point out people who "show up late". "Geez, Bob, it's past 10. You're just coming in?!".... Despite the fact you stay at work until 9pm, the early risers who left at 5pm never notice or give credit to the people who stay late. To them they act like the world ceases at 5 in the afternoon until they come in again at 7am. I have so many minor knit-picks over this that bile is starting to form in my throat. I think I'll end.
If it's so genetic, I'll agree to drop the hatred and adopt an attitude of dispassionate eugenics. Happy now, Mr. Sunshine?
Perhaps the answer is that people bifurcate because this allows each a better mating strategy; the existence of both group increases the possibilities for non-monogamous behavior, increasing the prospects of otherwise infertile couples of having children...
I also like to make your girlfriend moan.
Don't hate em. Hate their DNA. And they are full of it.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
The argument that DNA makes morning people doesn't work for me. When I was younger I was a morning person - I'd routinely be out of bed before 5am and down at the field flying gliders as the sun came up, having a couple of hours' worth of peace and joy before dragging myself in to the slavery that is work. A couple of decades later and I'm flat out dragging myself out of bed before 7am on a week day or 9am on week ends. Maybe that's more a measure of how much work sucks the life out of you.
There are two kinds of people in the world...
Those who are bright and cheerful in the morning,
And those who want to take a wrench and beat the shit out of the first kind.*
*proud member of the second category
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
You don't roll out of bed at 10 am or noon. You do so at some time relative to external inputs such as light and temperature which affect your circadian rhythm. Temperature and to a certain degree light is under your control. Just like the time on your alarm clock. So set it. If you can't function until sunrise plus 5 hours, then get a light timer to turn on at 3 AM. Do whatever it takes to get up to speed for the 9 AM meeting. Even if that means going to bed at 7 or 8 PM.
Have gnu, will travel.
I don't know if I'm a morning person or not. What I do know is that I go to sleep late because I want more me-time.
Puns don't count....
I don't see why people hate morning people. morning people make the world go round. I always though people who hated morning people were lazy and felt bad about it, so they lash out at others.
Hereabouts, in the Boston area, they're all called Moaning People, since in the local dialect, "morning", "mourning" and "moaning" are homophones. (And the rumors about where they "pahk theyah cahs" is actually quite wrong, since if you pahk yoah cah theya, the Hahvahd police will tow it away.)
Those who do study history are doomed to stand helplessly by while everyone else repeats it.
Imagine your delight if someone breezed in and dragged you out of bed at 3:00 A.M. every day and expected you to be not just coherent but actually enthusiastic.
And you'll hahv ta take the Oanhg line ta Meffa or the Red line ta Somahville to the toah yahd ta gat it...
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Better analogy: imagine if you were expected to show up for meetings at 7pm and work until 1am and be not just coherent but actually enthusiastic.
Morning people are proud of their supposed virtue and work ethic until the clock hits 6pm and they start yawning like a bunch of pussy lightweights. These shits will never know what it's like to hammer out 6 weeks of code in a single night of caffeine fueled mania.
I do it. and its hard, but I do it anyway. I fail to see why I should excuse anybody who whines "waaa it's hard."
You should wear a top hat and say that in a German accent while dancing with Liza Minelli.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
So you personally choose to flagellate yourself daily so you figure that gives you the moral right to expect it of everyone else? I choose to stay up late. Why don't you quit being a lazy bum and stay up too?
I don't think I got it through DNA. Mainly circumstances and habit. If at all there was influence from DNA it is quite mild.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
^^^ THIS
Correlation isn't causation, and what we now know about our biological clock makes the interpretation stated in the article ridiculous. Similar genetic discoveries often involve dopamine - anything that is more likely to key you to stay up, abuse artificial light and blow your diurnal hormone cycle. But in a generation or two we'll be smart enough to turn out the lights roughly when the sun goes down, experience much better health, and it will turn out that nobody was really a night owl (under even semi-natural conditions) after all. This determinative view of genetics belongs back in nineteen fifties. Genetics are the substrate upon which the environment acts.
...live with my wife when she wakes up PERKY and CONVERSATIONAL at 06:00....
mark
why East coast people don't use the time difference as an excuse to start work later.
Particularly with a 4 AM last call time. But then ....
dealing with East coast business hours is frustrating,
In my experience, most highly successful people are morning people. And not bar flies. So 4 AM closing times and late night entertainment don't enter into their plans.
get some extra sleep.
Umm, nope. People need a certain amount of sleep. Some need more, some need less. Where they put that ideal amount on the clock is a different issue. Getting up later would mean going to bed later. Needing more sleep is a sign that a person isn't managing their bed time/wake up time properly. And that might lead to symptoms very similar to being a 'late riser'.
Have gnu, will travel.
Night is when thoughts run deep and great ideas arise.
One should wake when one wakes. One should spend at least the 1st half hour wordlessly. Then, only after sitting in the sun for a few minutes should they begin purposeful activities such as preparing for work.
If you're using an alarm clock and/or lights in the morning to start your day at an unseemly hour, you too are using technology to warp the natural order of life.