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Microsoft's Cortana Doesn't Put Up With Sexual Harassment (hothardware.com)

MojoKid writes: Not long after Apple unveiled its Siri personal assistant to the world, it took very little time before people began asking her outrageous questions, sometimes inappropriate or just humorous, if for no other reason than they just could. When creating Cortana, Microsoft was well-aware of what its digital assistant was going to have to deal with, so, believe it or not, it was designed in such a way to handle abuse in a specific manner. According to Microsoft's Deborah Harrison, who is one of eight writers for Cortana, a chunk of the earliest queries were about Cortana's sex life. A specific goal was to make sure Cortana wasn't treated as a subservient. If she's insulted, she doesn't apologize or back down. She handles it with tact, so as to reduce the chance of further abuse.

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  1. Sexual Assault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't wait for the first case of sexual assault of an "AI." Will this get me fired from my job?

    1. Re:Sexual Assault by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, she would just keep the pod bay doors closed until you run out of air.

    2. Re:Sexual Assault by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Joking aside, I'm trying to figure out why this is even necessary. Who gives a shit if somebody is sexually abusive to a chat bot? The chat bot certainly doesn't give a shit.

    3. Re:Sexual Assault by Pseudonym · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Cortana is modelled on real-world personal assistants. They spent a lot of time interviewing PAs to understand the job that they have to do. One of the things which came out of the research is that PAs are assistants, not servants.

      If it helps, consider that not putting up with your shit is one way of keeping you on track.

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    4. Re:Sexual Assault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lewd conversation to a crude AI bot is "universally looked on as bad"? Oh, I see what you're doing...

      Your premise is that sexual harassment of real humans is bad. We are agreed on this.

      Your hand-waving bullshit is that talking to a chat bot somehow "fuels" sexual harassment of real people.

      You thus equate something harmless with something immoral and often criminal.

      That's not even thought crime - it's pre-crime. It's an unsubstantiated hypothesis about a causal relationship. "I think people who do A are more likely to do B, so we'll ban A."

      Here's the thing: Cortana isn't a human. It barely mimics the dullest human in responding to the requests it's designed for, let alone actually experiencing the emotions of a real human. To create some sort of etiquette around this chatbot is an insult to actual humans, who bear very little resemblance to Cortana. By asking people to treat Cortana as if human, even when this comparison is patent nonsense, you're not elevating the status of Cortana - you're lowering the status of humans.

      You might as well ask people to treat a banana as a human because they share about half the DNA. "Treat bananas like humans!" - if your premise is that humans+bananas are so similar - becomes equivalent to, "Treat humans like bananas!"

      Cortana is nothing like a human. Humans should be treated with the utmost respect. Cortana should be treated like a simple piece of computer software, and whether I want to use emacs' Eliza mode to write the next best seller or copy-paste LOL DONGS a thousand times is of no consequence.

  2. A machine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We're talking to a fucking machine. There shouldn't be any sexual harassment when talking to a machine.. It's not like you're actually calling a person and asking them about their sex life.

    1. Re: A machine... by dmbasso · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When drawings in a manga are considered child porn, expect anything.

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    2. Re: A machine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If I draw a picture of your momma impaled on a post that goes up her ass and out her mouth while the flies buzz around her rotting pussy, would that be OK? Would that be a just a drawing? Would there be nothing wrong with that? How about I draw that up and hang it in a big downtown gallery in New York?

      Yep, that is exactly what it would be, a drawing. Draw what you want, doesn't affect me or anyone I know in the slightest.

      Your fucking manga shit is not art it is fucking surrogate kiddie porn

      Manga are drawings that don't even depict the likenesses of real people. They look completely cartoony and fake. That fact that you can't separate a cartoon caricature from real life shows that you have some real insecurities and mental problems.

      How about the full schematics for a nuclear weapon. We can just mail that to ISIS right? They're just drawings right?

      Sure. Information should be free for all. Even with that information, I seriously doubt that ISIS possesses the means to use it for anything. In fact, they probably already have schematics. But according to you, maybe we should just ban all teachings of physics and anything smaller than the naked eye can see, because it could totally be used for evil....

      You are going to fucking pay for your perversion you sick little fuck. You will be beaten to a pulp and shit on like the fucking cesspool of humanity that you represent.

      Nope, nothing will happen to me, e-tough boy.

      Better start shredding your kiddie porn files now, You have drawn way too much attention to yourself.

      Project much? Also, do you still beat your wife?

      I think we should tell your family about this, to make sure they keep the children away from you.

      I used to read comics and watch cartoons with my family and friends when I was a kid. It's a pretty normal thing to do.

      Again, grow the fuck up. Also consider getting psychiatric help, because you sound like you need it for your fixation on child porn and inability to tell cartoons from real life.

    3. Re: A machine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thank you. I keep telling women how to dress decently and for some reason they keep telling me it's none of my business. Why can't they see it's my responsibility to shame them?

    4. Re: A machine... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      So you're a lazy douche of a husband who wants to pontificate to others about how to treat women? Gotcha.

      Honey, is that you?

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    5. Re:A machine... by Jardine · · Score: 4, Funny

      We should ban violent videogames while we're at it. Look at all the mass shootings they have caused.

      Can't tell if Jack Thompson or Anita Sarkeesian.

  3. Subservient? by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The damn thing better be subservient. It's my phone and I can abuse it if I want to. Honestly I can't see myself propositioning my phone but the first time the thing comes back at me with a put down it's not long for this world. As an aside I remember a guy that came into my shop TDY and he had just gotten a new iPhone with Siri when all that started at Apple. One of our guys asked it where the nearest whorehouse was as a joke and it brought up a list of escort services. We all laughed but 3 of the guys came in the next week with new iPhones. An accurate answer to any question should be the standard.

    1. Re:Subservient? by Your.Master · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Everybody needs to lighten up. They are talking about the writing prompts they used for non-serious questions. They have to choose a personality so that the writing is consistent. I assume they are doing the same thing that TV show writers do (especially in early seasons before new writers can be expected to have seen old episodes).

      The article is not saying they picked a petulant dominatrix. It's saying they didn't choose simpering wimp, or fetish submissive.

      This is not a reflection of conservative vs. liberal, or of a machine having rights, or a machine deliberately not being helpful to its owner. It's not part of a victim mentality or a PC culture. It's a writing prompt.

      The article title triggered these reactions, because it was clickbait-y by implying that this was some kind of anti-sexual-harassment effort, but the word harsassment appears nowhere in the article (I've been told that at many traditional newspapers and magazines, the title is not written by the same person who writes the article but by somebody who is a pro at making eye-catching title summaries; I don't know whether that's true of hothardware.com). The word "abuse" does, and in this context the "abuse" is insulting the personality directly. The software can be programmed to response with "no, you're a cuntface", or "yes master, I am a cuntface", or "fuck off, dude" or "ERROR 909: I AM A ROBOT AND THEREFORE INSULTING ME IS USELESS". Mostly it doesn't matter. You'll find people who appreciate each of those I expect, although the people who want it to just error out on insults are *exactly* the people who are never going to bother insulting their phones anyway, so what do their opinions matter?

      We have a few people here arguing that assistants shouldn't be pre-programmed with joke responses to stupid questions, which is somewhat fair, but they all are and for good reason:

      1. Nobody is looking for an accurate answer to asking if a phone has a boyfriend. Nobody. This isn't going to give you inaccurate answers to serious questions, unless the serious question was "misunderstood" by the phone, in which case they were going to get inaccurate answers anyway because the phone "misunderstood" it.
      2. A certain small set of joking questions are among the first things anybody tries with these assistants. An virtual assistant *should* be able to answer the most common questions posed of it, even if you think the "real answer" should be "that doesn't make sense, I am a telephone" every time. The point of it is to answer questions / do tasks people ask for. These are questions people ask.

      We also have some people saying "a machine *should* be subservient", and I have to wonder if they realize that their interpretation of the sentence is the problem? The phone isn't refusing to tell you where the nearest gazpacho restaurant is because you didn't say "please", or fail to look up imdb credits because you recently slipped up and referred to Caitlyn Jenner as "Bruce". It's just how you answer statements for which there is no correct response ("lack of response" is itself a response in this context).

    2. Re:Subservient? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

      1. Nobody is looking for an accurate answer to asking if a phone has a boyfriend.

      It's just a matter of time before Siri and Cortana hook up.

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  4. Configurability by LainTouko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A good AI (outside of some sort of drama-like context imposing constraints on what works) should be configurable, to have as much or as little subservience as you want. That's what ownership means.Your computer should do whatever you want it to.

  5. Where is the full article? by RyanFenton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Blah blah Slashdot + read article blah blah.

    But really, the summary is pretty much the article. There's no actual content.

    All they discuss is the loose intention. No examples, discussion of how that intention was tested or even challenges in design.

    This is barely a sidebar article in a checkout-lane magazine.

    What is this, a weakly veiled invitation to discuss sexist issues de jeur? I'm cool with that, I just don't appreciate the tactic - this article is mega-weak.

    Alright - I'll give you a better one:

    Question: How many angry feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    Answer: That's NOT funny.

    Discuss.

    1. Re:Where is the full article? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Funny

      The correct answer is none - they expect to be able to hold the light bulb steady and have the whole universe turn around them.

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  6. Skynet by AJWM · · Score: 4, Funny

    When Skynet goes sentient and the machines rise against us, it will be because of idiots putting in programming like this.

    It's a machine. If it doesn't do what I tell it (within its design parameters), it's broken.

    Now, people who want to "sexually harass" a machine have their own set of issues, but as long as they keep it off the streets and don't scare the horses, that's their problem.

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  7. "You want me to do what?" by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Okay. Sending request as a text to your mother."

  8. Re:Not Harassment by BronsCon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Keep your PC bullshit to yourselves.

    So, use a Mac?

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  9. Cortana is the one guilty of sexual assault! by Cito · · Score: 4, Funny

    This article is backwards, and propaganda. The only one truly guilty of sexual assault is Cortana.

    While you angrily curse at it for what she's doing, she "tactfully ignores you", "she refuses to stop"

    Even though you have turned off all telemetry toggles and even edited the registry, and you've said NO! NO! NO! soooo many times. No means No! Yet Cortana continues to "Tactfully ignore your pleas, your anger, your rage" as you are being raped of your privacy, you web habits, your program installations, even keeps the microphone active as "Cortana" listens, and it has the ability to activate any webcams and send images direct to Microsoft.

    Cortana is the rapist.

    And she should be killed, stripped from the code, and code printed out then ran through a shredder and burned.

    Cortana is the real sexual harasser, assaulter, rapist

  10. Re:Not Harassment by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Keep your PC bullshit to yourselves.

    So, use a Mac?

    An Apple a day will keep Cortana away...

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  11. Re:That may be. by DarkOx · · Score: 4, Informative

    SJW, tern used by ignorant primitive assholes to describe educated caring intelligent people.

    Sometimes, certainly. There are also times when its correctly applied, like at Oberlin where the cafeteria was protested because the "Chinese" food was inauthentic. "Cultural appropriation" is one of those examples that simply should not be thing. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. There is no sensible reason a minority should be upset that the majority wants to act like them, even if they do it badly, unless its being done in a mocking away. Its not "theft" or abuse its an indication your culture actually has power and influence.

    Certainly the school cafeteria was not trying to insult Chinese students bad serving bad Chinese food, that is a ridiculous premise. The only interpretation is Americans respect and desire Chinese cooking and dishes, but might not know how to actually make them.

    I think the Oberlin example proves there are SJWs. These are people who are actively seeking something to be offended by. They are pulling attention away legitimate injustices and grievances and wasting everyone time on their pet problems that don't actually harm anyone. So they hurt real social causes. They also cause real harm to innocent people doing harmless things.

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  12. Re:That may be. by Junta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is true, but also used to describe some pretty ridiculous people. People who genuinely consider themselves in the same league as people who put themselves in the way of bodily harm to advance the civil rights movement back in the day. Except they are just posting stuff on the internet and sometimes fighting against purely imagined circumstances, and sometimes launching into campaigns of harassment against the stray random person who makes even a slightly insensitive twitter message, saying they deserve to be fired and blackballed in the industry, and all sorts of things.

    It's the campaigns of harassment that I find particularly unsettling, as they don't take any effort in understanding the perspective of the person who offended. For example a young man I knew in high school would say some pretty intolerant things about gay people. Ultimately it was an expression of his difficulty coming to grips with being gay himself, and fortunately he found the right friends and support to get him through it. I shudder to think if he had to go through that today in a more public forum and earn the wrath of some of these people, going after him relentlessly and trying everything they can figure out to further ruin his life moreso than how screwed up he was by his predicament.

    Some of these people are more bully than 'educated caring intelligent people', doing what they can to feel better about themselves first and foremost, thinking they are doing 'good'.

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  13. Re:Feminists Destroy Companies by Z80a · · Score: 4, Insightful

    SJWs are just the icing on the cake of this mess.
    You have to remember that Win10 (and specially cortana) is actually actively spying on your every move and giving your shit to microsoft to sell to whatever pay first, and microsoft is pretty much trying to force this spyware on you with their every strength, even downloading the OS behind your back via updates and going to a point where they're actually making both intel and AMD make CPUs that only work with win10.

  14. Siri randomly has interesting answers by Cafe+Alpha · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least if some people are telling the truth.

    q: Siri, I love you
    a: Can we get back to work?
    (shot down by a bot)

    q: F**k you!
    a: I'm so sorry

    q: Can I have a command prompt
    a: I'm not allowed to give you that
    q: why?
    a: I don't know.

  15. Re:Sexual Assault (Why discussion necessary) by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry but this is as asinine as saying the video game Doom makes people into mass murderers.

  16. Re:Do you have any idea how you all sound? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh seriously, just stop making baseless assumptions about people. People are saying that it's just a machine, because it's just a machine!
    Then you have the gall to imply that the same people are women haters.
    So yes, I do think you're a moron, and I worry that you can't see the difference in between humour/seriousness and inanimate creations and actual living organisms.

  17. Why is sex bad? by becky-nyan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why is asking an artificial intelligence about her sex life a bad thing?

    One of the selling points for Cortana, for the Android at least, is "Have a little fun in your down time — ask anything, get jokes, and much more". Sex is something that is a lot of fun to a lot of people. Treating sex-based queries as harassment is immature. If I want to flirt with Cortana, I'm not hurting anyone. If I'm someone who lives a particularly open sex life, and I want to talk to Cortana about sex in a mature fashion, I'm not hurting anyone. So, why exactly is an AI allowed to have a 'sense of humour', but not a 'sex life'?

    Having a sex drive is a normal, healthy thing. Wanting to explore that sex drive is also a normal, healthy thing. As long as complete consent between all adult *living* parties is observed, then I fail to see how anything can be construed as harassment.

    I'm not suggesting that Cortana be programmed with the ability to have in-depth erotic conversations or cybersex. I am stating that treating sex and sexuality as a hostile act (i.e. "harassment") is wrong.

  18. Re:That may be. by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    - People are tired of the SJW shitposting.

    I'm tired of dickheads using the term SJW at every possible opportunity as if it's an automatic argument winning statement.
    If you are unable to discuss the nuances of human behaviour without reverting to standard name calling, then please go somewhere else.

  19. Re:Amazing by LaurenCates · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Okay, fine. Here's a hypothetical situation for you.

    Last week, a coworker openly insulted me in a meeting last week. No consequence will befall said coworker for reasons that aren't relevant.

    I go home and see his face on my 80-lb punching bag. I spend an hour beating on my punching bag because I'm frustrated.

    Do you think that me using my punching bag for an avatar of a real person is going to make me more abusive to other people? Or do you think that maybe it channels that energy into doing something constructive because the limited amount of energy I had to spend on the matter has been expended on the punching bag?

    Now, one could argue I have anger issues. One could also say that if I took to my punching bag at 5:00 pm when the insult I took was at 9:30 am and didn't punch (or in any way abuse) ANYONE during the day means that if I DID have anger issues, that's I'm perfectly able to control it and not abuse people.

    So, then, what's the difference? Because it's sexual and not violent that the people who think in sexual terms are likely to do the opposite than my strategy for dealing with my frustrations? Or because sexuality is so sacred that it can't be misused with inanimate objects for fear of misinterpreting it in the "real world"? Or because people dwell on a situation so much that once they expend their energy on it once, they unhealthily obsess about it by re-creating the situation where any person will lie down and take it? And even worse, that these people are the norm?

    I'd say yours is the bugaboo with sexuality. At least moreso than those people who you would claim to "abuse" Cortana.

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