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Anti-Piracy Group BREIN Demands Torrents Time Cease and Desist

An anonymous reader writes: Not even a week has gone by since Torrents Time appeared on the scene, and the site has already been served with a cease-and-desist letter. Anti-piracy group BREIN, based in the Netherlands, has deemed the streaming tool an "illegal application" and demands the administrators "cease and desist the distribution of Torrents Time immediately."

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  1. to hell with devs by alphatel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Immediately tie up anyone who creates a method to distribute material over the internet in lawsuits.
    Force them to consume all of their time and income in legal fees
    Guarantee that after they are decimated, several hundred anonymous, hidden services with the same agenda will surface with far greater impact.

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  2. The funny thing is by roc97007 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is the type of technology we were promised back in the early nineties (usually followed by "and who will bring this to you? at&t") and is also a really good stab at reducing the redundant point-point traffic caused by Netflix and other "legitimate" streaming services. But it takes an application outside the law as a demonstrator. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. There was a time, for instance, when any video recording/playback set of features was first used for pr0n, and then gradually migrated to legitimate use. But I've been hoping so far in vain for legitimate services to torrent their content. (except for a few independent content creators.) I guess it makes too much sense.

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  3. Re:Wow that did not last very long! by Dins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What about usenet?

    Shhhhhh....

  4. BREIN are complicit by wshs · · Score: 4, Informative

    Let's not forget that BREIN pirated music for use in commercials. Pot, kettle.

    1. Re: BREIN are complicit by guruevi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      BREIN is a government-sponsored shake down.

      They have collected on music royalties, even for songs that never signed onto a label or labels connected to them but never pay out.

      It is quite literally a single man organization (1 office) that produced some anti piracy ads and manages to spend millions of euros per year.

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    2. Re: BREIN are complicit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yip, by law, BUMA/STEMRA/BREIN is the only organisation that is allowed to collect royalty payments for music as a third party.
      By law, by default all music royalties are collected by BUMA/STEMRA/BREIN, if you do not register at BUMA/STEMRA/BREIN then the music royalties they collect will go to their own funds.

      You can opt out of BUMA/STEMRA/BREIN by stating at the copyright line that royalties are managed by yourself (you are not allowed to use another organisation to collect royalties).

      If you play your own music for a group of people and you didn't opt out, you will have to pay BUMA/STEMRA/BREIN royalties, musicians have been caught playing their own music and not handing of royalties to BUMA/STEMRA/BREIN, even though they where not registered at BUMA/STEMRA/BREIN, and so they had to pay fines on top of the royalties.

  5. Re:Wow that did not last very long! by sims+2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since we're suing tool makers why not go ahead and sue the makers of the auto dialers telemarketers use. That would greatly cut down on the telemarketing calls we receive. Save us all a lot of time and money.

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  6. Thanks BREIN by JustNiz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would probably have never found out about this app, but since you're coming down so hard and fast on it I figured it must be good, so I've now downloaded and installed it.

  7. Re: Why? by TheReaperD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're forgetting that these groups don't care about valid uses of technology. All they care about is whether something can disrupt their revenue stream. Most of these groups would gladly ban the internet in its current form if it was within their power.

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  8. Re:Why not just call the entire Internet illegal? by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Their argument is like liberals trying to outlaw firearms: they make a basic assumption that 'guns are evil, therefore get rid of guns' when in reality people kill people, and eliminating guns won't really do a damn thing; someone wants to kill, they'll find a way, gun or no gun.

    Any argument you might have had just evaporated with this ridiculous statement.

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hi...

    http://www.ajpmonline.org/arti...

    And before you get all uppity and start yet another gun argument, no-one is suggesting to outlaw firearms, gun regulation means allowing sensible people access to sensible weapons, just like in most other western countries that have gun regulations, and healthy gun ownership, but nowhere as many issues.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid. Never mind the fact that filesharing is never, ever going to go away, either; they're fighting a losing battle.

    The strategy, like gun regulation, is not elimination, it is to minimise availability. By going after the low hanging fruit, it makes pirate file sharing a less common practice. So the stupid people who can't figure out technology will find it too hard, and so pay for it through legitimate channels instead (have you seen iTunes profit lately?) This strategy only has to make a 10-20% dent in the market and it is worth million of dollars. That doesn't sound that stupid to me.