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Australia Cuts 110 Climate Scientist Jobs: "The Science is Settled."

An anonymous reader writes: With an ax rather than a scalpel, Australia's federal science agency last week chopped off its climate research arm in a decision that has stunned scientists and left employees dispirited. Why? Because the science is settled, there is no need for more basic research, the government says. No doubt many will experience a case of schadenfreude as they see those who have long claimed "the science is settled" face the inevitable and logical consequence of that stance.

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  1. Re:The basic question is answered...but still... by DigiShaman · · Score: -1, Troll

    LOL, it was NEVER about science. It was all about establishing FUD so that taxation and social engineering can be put inlace to protect the politicians / elite of society. You didn't think they would ever eat the dog food brought about their own policies to combat AGW did you?

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  2. Re:The basic question is answered...but still... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    No one in climate science is interested in answering those questions. It's all "X is caused by global climate change", where X can be literally anything, and "X is going to be even worse than we thought" with pictures of polar bears in the background.

  3. Re:The basic question is answered...but still... by Kohath · · Score: -1, Troll

    "How Fast?"

    Alarmingly fast. Longer answer: we don't know but can tell whatever story you need to justify whatever economic policy you want. It depends on whose money we are trying to take.

    "Will the extra CO2 help crops or weeds grow faster?"

    You don't need climate modeling to analyze plants, you just grow a bunch of plants in different conditions and see what happens.

    "What can we do about it?"

    Take money away from the people who earned it so we can spend it on ourselves and our friends. Obviously.

    "Will such-and-such course of action have enough effect to avoid such-and-such consequences?"

    Only conferences in Hawaii, Geneva, Kyoto, Sydney and other fun travel destinations can answer this important question.

  4. Re:If it's "settled", it ISN'T "science" by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0, Troll

    When the answer to "it is settled" is based on "consensus" and not actual facts, then there is a problem. Once upon a time, Piltdown Man was "consensus" (and considered fact) science. The problem is that Science isn't consensus, it is fact based.

    Now, go and look at the Actual facts on AGW propopents, and you'll find all sorts of arbitrary and politically motivated "adjustments" to climate models whenever they break. Like the 15 years of "no global warming" (and counting) and the whole slew of predictions gone wrong. With a track record of failures why should we believe the GW proponents?

    IMHO the Science isn't settled, because science isn't consensus.

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  5. Re:If it's "settled", it ISN'T "science" by techno-vampire · · Score: -1, Troll

    IMHO the Science isn't settled, because science isn't consensus.

    Exactly. I'd also suggest that if you really want to find out what's going on, follow the money. There's lots and lots of grant money out there for people in that field, but only if their results match what the politicians need to push their agendas. You don't even need to bias the peer review (If that's actually going on, that is.) if the only studies to get funded say what you want to hear and the contrarian ones don't get funded.

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  6. Re:The basic question is answered...but still... by MightyMartian · · Score: 0, Troll

    What's really fun is to watch morons and psuedoskeptics going around bandying made up statistics and literally denigrating an entire field of research as populated by liars.

    Grow the fuck up. The laws of physics don't owe your fucking SUV any favors.

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  7. Re:The basic question is answered...but still... by lgw · · Score: -1, Troll

    Technically, the climate scientists are the "friends" here, of the politicians who have latched onto this as the latest excuse to take your money and give it to their friends.

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