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Carly Is Out

MouseTheLuckyDog writes: I don't like stories that are not nerd oriented, but given Carly Fiorina's disastrous time as HP's CEO, the second only to Stephen Elop's tenure at Nokia, I think it is appropriate to announce that as of now Carly Fiorina is out of the Presidential race.

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  1. Re:One down. by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Trump is winning out because the saner vote is still split. Even 33% of the vote isn't enough to win the nomination. If the others drop out soon, Trump will need to come to grips with the other 64% of the Republican voters.

    Trump is one of those people that will never get the rest of the party to unite behind him. The establishment candidates would usually start supporting the front-runner after they drop out in the name of party unity, but none of them will support Trump because they believe he will permanently ruin the party's chances of winning a national election. They will support the person who is not Trump who is left over after the bloodbath.

    That's why this primary is deceptive. Alone, the other candidates represent only a sliver of votes compared to Trump. Together, they are the majority. It would be one thing if Trump could get some upside from the others dropping out, but anyone who voted for Christie or Fiorina or Carson isn't going to be voting for Trump.

    Trump's support base is solid, but he has nowhere to go.

  2. Re:She's a dumb woman who drove HP into the ground by tnk1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing about Fiorina leads me to believe she is "dumb". As far as I can tell, she's both wealthy, was made the CEO of a major corporation, and had enough support to run for two offices. Despite the fact that they were both unsuccessful attempts, they likely have not hurt her in the slightest and is significantly closer than 99.9% of America has ever come to the Presidency.

    Now if you were to say that she was a bad manager, selfish, incapable and just a very bad selection as a leader, I'd agree with you. But never confuse that with someone being "dumb". That's the mistake people make before they find themselves underestimating the person they are talking about and then being run over.

  3. Re:Hammerheads in Vermont by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not true. Sanders and (for example) Rand Paul agree on a surprisingly large number of issues, especially on things like the PATRIOT Act.

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  4. Re:Hammerheads in Vermont by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I tend to lean towards free market policies, but given the attacks on personal liberties that most other candidates have come out in favor of, I'll take economic policies I don't like if it means the government won't by spying on me. Sanders doesn't have the best record as far as I'm concerned when it comes to second amendment rights, but he's not as bad as a lot of Democrats. If nothing else, Sanders seems reasonable enough that he won't just shove whatever crap the big corporations, unions, or his party is pushing.

    Aligning yourself with a political party and not being able to look outside of it is fucking stupid no matter who you are. It's a large part of the reason we've ended up with so many shitty candidates and such bitter partisan politics where things largely fall along party lines.

  5. Re:trump independent can lead to no one getting 27 by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    trump independent can lead to no one getting the needed 270.

    That would be fine too, since the House would then elect the POTUS from the three top candidates with one vote per state delegation.

    The House isn't going to elect Trump, but they did elect Jefferson over Burr in 1800.

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  6. Re:And there was much rejoicing! by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To be honest, the choices for the D candidates is even more pathetic. You have a confirmed liar and a socialist nutjob who hasn't run anything. I'm not liking where our country is headed.

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  7. Re:Hammerheads in Vermont by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course it doesn't. But if you're a libertarian and prioritize social issues, you might hold your nose and accept Sanders' economic policy rather than accept the Dominionist totalitarianism that the rest of the Republican candidates want.

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  8. Re:Hammerheads in Vermont by meglon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    government wealth redistribution

    This alone makes you socialist/communist.

    As a Libertarian, I oppose the Min Wage. As a realist, I know you cannot repeal it. But as jobs disappear because Robots take over for humans (http://www.businessinsider.com/momentum-machines-burger-robot-2014-8 ) Min wage will become a non-issue.

    The problem is, Government shouldn't pick winners and losers in the marketplace. If something is "too big to fail" it is too big. Period.

    For the past 35+ years we've been having a government redistribution of wealth from the poor and middle class to those who are already wealthy. What does that make the worthless fucking idiots who created that? By the way, take that extra nickel in your paycheck and go buy an encyclopedia to learn the difference between socialist and communist, and while you're at it look up democratic socialist. Paying attention to reality should also be on your list of "new things to try out" as well.

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  9. Re:Hammerheads in Vermont by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you might hold your nose and accept Sanders' economic policy rather than accept the Dominionist totalitarianism that the rest of the Republican candidates want.

    This needs modded up. It's good to see that someone is paying attention. Dominionist is exactly where the Pubs are heading, and everyone should do some research on exactly what they are and stand for.

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  10. Re:Important Stuff (For the discussion) by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Carly is a woman of singular achievements. To become the single most reviled person in an industry that includes Larry Ellison, Steve Ballmer, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs requires a level of dedication to details that few of us can even aspire to, much less attain.

  11. Re:Hammerheads in Vermont by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Other ways in which the Republican party may not be for you include:
    1. You believe in science
    2. You believe in the whole constitution (not just the 2nd amendment)
    3. You don't hate minorities, women, gay people, nor non-Christians
    4. You are willing to pay some taxes
    5. You don't want to shut down the government every 3 months
    6. You don't want to attack other countries
    7. You actually want smaller government
    8. You don't want corrupt politicians representing you
    9. You are a William F Buckley conservative
    10. You are a Ronald Reagan conservative

    I didn't start 2015 wanting to vote for a socialist, but I would vote for just about anyone who can convince me they are not a crook, and in this election only a socialist succeeded, so I guess I'm voting for a socialist.

    As an independent I'd love for their to be a sane conservative voice to oppose the other candidate that isn't full of shit, but unfortunately we don't really get one this election cycle. That's cool, I'm happy we at least have one. It makes my decision making process pretty easy.

  12. Re:Hammerheads in Vermont by dryeo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How the hell do you come to the conclusion that the DNC and Obama are socialist? Have you not seen their actions? They're just as pro-big business as the Republicans, just different big businesses. Banks getting bailed out and then endless streams of free money printed just for their use, a socialist would have nationalized the banks, broken them up and hopefully turned them into credit unions or at least sold small banks back to the people.
    Look at their healthcare reform, the only ones benefiting are the insurance companies with a guaranteed clientele.

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  13. Re:Hammerheads in Vermont by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Take it from someone who has experienced it first hand.

    Where?

    -Sweden?
    -Norway?
    -Denmark?
    -Netherlands?
    -Finland?