Indonesia Moves To Ban Same-Sex Emojis On Messaging Apps (thestack.com)

An anonymous reader writes: The Indonesian government has this week demanded that instant messaging apps available in the country remove all same-sex emoticons from their platforms, or face heavy sanctions. While homosexuality is not illegal in the country, it remains a controversial issue in the Muslim-dominated country. Now in the latest effort to crackdown on gay rights, Indonesian authorities want to ban emojis, stickers and emoticons which depict same-sex couples, the rainbow flag, and any symbol that symbolises the lesbian, bay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community. Apps that have been targeted by the demands include the popular Asian messaging app LINE, Whatsapp, Facebook and Twitter. The Indonesian Communication and Information Ministry added that a particular concern was that children would find the bright coloured stickers appealing.

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But they're not white, so it's OK

[Anonymous Coward]

It's OK for non-whites to be homophobic.

SJWs have lower standards for non-whites, especially if the homophobes are Islamic - because the SJWs are awfully quiet when Islamic "culture" says EXECUTING gays is OK.

Hell, if you're Islamic you can be misogynistic, too.

Re:But they're not white, so it's OK

[BarbaraHudson]

And Americans are awfully quiet when christian politicians harass transsexuals with bathroom bills, and christians try to introduce bills that would authorize the killing of LGBTti people (fortunately, after the paperwork was filed, a judge ruled the attempt unconstitutional).

Muslim extremists, Christian extremists - they're just two sides of the same coin. Fortunately, the majority in both camps don't go along with this crap. As for the SJWs, they're so full of it that the only people listening to them are other SJW wannabes.

Re:But they're not white, so it's OK

[110010001000]

People put way too much credence on what they read on the Internet. And reading it from "multiple sources" means nothing either, because all those "sources" just copy each other.

Re:But they're not white, so it's OK

[Anonymous Coward]

And Americans are awfully quiet when christian politicians harass transsexuals with bathroom bills, and christians try to introduce bills that would authorize the killing of LGBTti people (fortunately, after the paperwork was filed, a judge ruled the attempt unconstitutional).

Muslim extremists, Christian extremists - they're just two sides of the same coin. Fortunately, the majority in both camps don't go along with this crap. As for the SJWs, they're so full of it that the only people listening to them are other SJW wannabes.

BULLSHIT.

Again:

Muslim extremists, Christian extremists - they're just two sides of the same coin.

BULLSHIT

Who was killed over Piss Christ?

NO ONE.

Got the balls to say how many people were killed at Charlie Hebdo?

Got the stones to say how many people were killed of Mohammad cartoons?

Thank you so very much for demonstrating my point about SJWs having lower standards for non-white Islamic mores.

You fucking USELESS idiot.

Re: But they're not white, so it's OK

[serviscope_minor]

One could argue that the extremists are those who insist on dragging paedoterrorists, er... I mean SJW into every sodding thread regardless of it's relevance.

Re:But they're not white, so it's OK

[Penguinisto]

BULLSHIT

Who was killed over Piss Christ?

NO ONE.

Got the balls to say how many people were killed at Charlie Hebdo?

Got the stones to say how many people were killed of Mohammad cartoons?

Insults removed, but the salient point really should left intact for emphasis, as it is quite valid.

Re:But they're not white, so it's OK

[Anonymous Coward]

BULLSHIT

Who was killed over Piss Christ?

NO ONE.

Got the balls to say how many people were killed at Charlie Hebdo?

Got the stones to say how many people were killed of Mohammad cartoons?

Insults removed, but the salient point really should left intact for emphasis, as it is quite valid.

Who would try to create a moral equivalence between Christian fundamentalists who merely say you're going to hell but still pray for you, and Muslim extremists who actually try to send you there?

There's just no equivalence. One thinks you're wrong, the other actually tries to and often does kill. Literally, there's no equivalence. And anyone who tries to create a moral equivalence between Christian fundamentalists and Islamic extremists is at best intellectually suspect - at best.

And that's just a nice way of saying "idiot".

So IMO what you called insults - while strongly worded - were actually accurate.

Re: But they're not white, so it's OK

[Anonymous Coward]

SJW is mainly a straw man.
Yes, there are people who are completely bonkers, but they are so few that I am more inclined at thinking it is the people that misuses SJW for everyone they don't like that are the bigger problem.

Re:But they're not white, so it's OK

[Penguinisto]

So the bill literally said "kill gays" or some variation thereof, right?

Oh, wait - it most likely didn't.

Re:Curious

[N1AK]

The claim in Christianity is that infants that die before baptism, and people who die having never even heard of Christ, go to hell and suffer for eternity... That's all you need to know about Christianity.

Wow

[PeeAitchPee]

This article is about yet another Muslim country implementing homophobic laws, and half of the comments are already immediately teeing off on Christianity without even a nod to the article itself. Nothing constructive or insightful . . . just an attempt to deflect and scream "but the other team is even worse!" Fuck you . . . you're not helping.

Re:Wow

[gstoddart]

Honestly, what insight is there to be had about religious bigotry?

Neither side is different, at the extremes they both do the exact same fucking things, under the name of the exact same fucking god (the Muslim god IS the Christian god, like it or not). Religious extremism is no different, no matter what it is (there's extremist Buddhists, so I'm not singling anybody out here.)

Why do people think it's OK when one group does it but not another? The hypocrisy is why people point it out.

It's not like "yarg, teh batshit crazy Muslims" is any different from "yarg, teh batshit crazy Christians".

Re:Wow

[halivar]

It's not like "yarg, teh batshit crazy Muslims" is any different from "yarg, teh batshit crazy Christians".

I know right? Refusing to bake a gay wedding cake is literally and exactly like dragging them into the street and stoning them to death. It is, as you say, "the exact same fucking thing."

Re:Wow

[ilsaloving]

The problem is that religious nutjobs will take your inch and try to steal a mile. They will do their damndest to shove their nose in your business, and will use any means to do so, at every possible opportunity, even if it's illegal. I mean, look at what's happening in the US right this moment.

Michigan just banned sodomy despite the fact that have a whackton of real and devastating problems that are costing people their lives.

Republicans are actively waging a war against women, cause vaginas are skeery. They went so far as to produce fraudulent footage of planned parenthood just so they could open an investigation. It has been demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt, repeatedly, that they they lied and cheated in order to accomplish what they wanted, and yet somehow people are letting them.

So what is the result? Women are now dying because of various medical issues that would have been trivially prevented by Planned Parenthood, because they either didn't have, or didn't know they had, options.

So yeah, your idea of freedom is great in an ideal world. So is Communism. We don't live in an ideal world.

At least fanatic Muslims are honest about wanting to murder you. Christian fanatics prefer to murder you by indirect means so that they can pretend that they are the good guys.

Re:The deep insecurity of Islam

[gstoddart]

Bah ... if there's a god of the universe he made it with cool shit like gravity waves and other things we can understand using things like relativity, filled it with vast and complex things to amaze and delight us, and gave us the capacity to investigate and understand it, and ponder our own place in it.

That god is sitting around going "what the fuck are the little squishy ones on that little fucking rock doing ?"

It's the fucking humans which are the whiny little petulant assholes who can't get over our own bullshit and fantasies about shit like this.

Narrow minded people need to imagine a narrow minded god.

Re:And...

[MitchDev]

Claim your dog is telling you the truth of the universe and how life should be run, they lock you up in a mental institution. Claim your "god" is doing the same thing and get tax exempt status...

Re:And...

[gstoddart]

I want to live in no society which is controlled by either.

I know moderate Muslims, and moderate Christians ... and remarkably, they seem to share the same values, and have no interest in imposing them on anybody else.

Islam derives from the same lineage as gets you from Judaism to Christianity to Islam ... along all of the variations along the way.

It's not a false equivalency to say that "fundamentalist sect of a religion" is no different -- there are probably Christians who would agree with stoning someone for adultery.

Take your false equivalency and cram it up your ass, because I'm not saying all Christians or all Muslims. I'm saying the extreme versions of both are indistinguishable.

Re:The deep insecurity of Islam

[UnknownSoldier]

> He's insecure and jealous. Not my idea, his own manual says so.

His/Her manual also says in Jer 8:8:

'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

Blaming God because (some) Men distort the truth is tossing the baby out with the bathwater. i.e. Sacrifices were never commanded (Jer 7:22)

For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

Jesus clarified the spiritual immaturity & stupidity of Judaism when he quotes Hosea 6:6

But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

> But instead he hides

If everyone knew God existed it wouldn't change a single thing. Why? Because you're forgetting about a little experiment called Earth:

Free Will

> because it is possible to explain this universe ... without there ever being some kind of supernatural entity required.

And the Laws of Physics just "magically" appeared one day?? Or are you saying they have always existed ??

The first law of Thermodynamics tells us:

Energy can not be created nor destroyed.

Ergo, the universe has always existed, which implies the Laws of Physics have always existed.

Either way it takes faith to believe in an Eternal Universe or Eternal God. Infinity is curiouser and curiouser that way.

What you are missing is that, at the end of the day, who cares where your faith is placed?? What DOES matter is your _actions_ towards others. There is a reason ALL the major religions teach The Golden Rule. Look, ALL Religions bibles, holy works, and theology can be summarized in 2 words:

Love Unconditionally

THAT'S the point of pure Spirituality, not the corrupted versions of Judaism, Christianity, Islam selling Heaven Insurance.