New Energy Efficiency Standards Take Effect This Week In the US (nrdc.org)
AmiMoJo writes: Eagerly awaited national energy efficiency standards for the little black boxes on the cords that connect many of our electronics--such as smartphones, computer laptops and electric toothbrushes--to wall outlets take effect this week. Known as external power supplies, or the less elegant term 'wall warts,' these power adapters may be small, but they consume a lot of energy. With 5 to 10 external power supplies in the average U.S. household, the new efficiency standards are projected to save consumers $300 million a year in electricity costs and reduce the carbon pollution that fuels dangerous climate change. The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) projects that the new standards for external power supplies alone will cut nearly 47 million metric tons of carbon dioxide over 30 years, equivalent to the annual electricity use of 6.5 million homes.
So, you're basically saying that we should dedicate a human to manually do a job that a chip could do trivially. Great.
I, for one, would like my electronics to do their charging quickly, efficiently, and without my having to babysit them.
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...save consumers $300 million a year in electricity costs...
So $1/year/person. In other words, no savings to speak of.
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Why bother, when this problem could be resolved by the free market. I mean, who'd want to buy a power supply that constantly drains power even when it's off? This would only make sense if you assume the average consumer is an idiot.
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And its supposed to record all your shows while you're not home switched off and unplugged right? Most all stbs today have an auto off set by default if its not set you can set it up yourself.
I know a guy who plugs his phone in at night then turns the powerstrip off its pluged into to save energy.
Then he wonders why his phone isn't charged in the morning.
Lets not do that.
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So a savings of $300 million a year, divided among ~325 million people comes out to a little less than $1 per year. That's inconsequential.
But what about the costs of the initiative? How much more do the devices cost consumers? I suspect that there's really no savings and that the higher cost of the devices offset any potential savings.
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Saves $300 million a year.
So... about a dollar each.
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More government intervention, because consumers ARE STUPID. Plug all your stupid wall warts into a power strip, when you get done charging, turn off the power strip. Idiots...now another stupid regulation.
So I should waste my time monitoring devices that were designed poorly in the first place? THAT is stupid. If we need a regulation to get companies to design products that aren't needlessly wasteful then so be it. Fixing market failures is actually a good use of government.
LOL, oh yeah ... who built them? What's that you say, Capitalists who didn't give a damn about anything but their bottom line?
Companies make 'em and sell 'em, chances are the average consumer isn't even aware of the issue ... and your "market" doesn't give a damn, because it's built on the idea of short term benefit.
Sorry, but I refuse to believe corporations would do this without some external impetus. Assuming rational consumers making good choices based on perfect information? Yeah, the unicorns really work there.
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"Stop government regulation! It's so much easier to design without worrying about electrocuting people, or outgassing volatile compounds, or irradiating people!" . . . . No thanks. Safety regulations and "truth in labeling" are some of the few places where government actually belongs. And since wasting energy is directly connected to a smokestack in most parts of the country, saving energy promotes safety.
This is an example of the very common "Principal-Agent Problem" which exists in some form in many, many commercial products and services. Manufacturers and service providers make decisions in effect for consumer that benefit their bottom line, but pass on all sorts of costs to consumers as a result.
In this case cheap energy-wasteful wall-warts that reduce the manufacturer cost but adds to everyone's electricity bill. Market competition does not address this issue since purveyors of electronics are not using "wall-wart power efficiency" in their sales campaigns, or even reveal how much power they waste if the consumer wants to find out (you have to buy it and see).
Only regulation by an organization that acts in the interests of the consumer can address this.
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(source)(pdf). Sure, the wall wart is small potatoes. Lots of these items are small bits individually, and they all have to pass a cost/benefit test (the cost of the incremental improvement must be less than the financial savings). When you add up all the bits and bobs, the cumulative impact is significant. It's not like DOE started with wall warts. It focused initially on the biggest opportunities, and works its way down the list. It's only because /.ers have lots more wall warts than the common man that it's even newsworthy for us.
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Well, if this is $300 net, I'll take it. That's how economics works, doesn't it? You stop investing when the marginal return for a dollar spent is a dollar.
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Say you run a 5V circuit to the other end of your house with 20m of cable. To run small device with a 10W load, even with fat 12AWG copper wiring you get almost a 10% loss due to voltage drop. It would be cheaper to use even a bad wall wart than to suffer those kinds of losses and pay for all that copper.
Back in the day hospitals were full of lawnmower injuries until consumers got annoyed enough to tell governments to force lawnmower manufacturers to change their designs. Government regulation is often a "choice of consumers" as well. In a competitive market sometimes all manufacturers of a product sometimes make something the customer does not want because that's what everyone else is making. Without minimum standards you end up with 1980s Chinese quality and safety features.