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Anonymous Hacker Gets Lost At Sea, Rescued, Then Arrested (softpedia.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Martin Gottesfeld, 31, from Somerville, Massachusetts, was arrested by FBI agents after being rescued at sea in the Gulf of Mexico. According to the FBI, Mr. Gottsfeld was under investigation after launching a series of cyber-attacks against Boston Children's Hospital in 2014, as part of the Anonymous hacker collective. Gottesfeld and his wife were found in a sailboat, near the coast of Cuba, with lots of luggage and 3 laptops. A Disney Cruise ship took them to the Bahamas, where FBI agents took him into custody.

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  1. Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that is dedication for ya!

    1. Re:Wow... by neoritter · · Score: 2

      OMG, they thought they were actually pirates! LMAO.

  2. Disney? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Go thing they weren't Jews.

    1. Re:Disney? by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Got rescued by Disney. But did not live happily ever after.

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  3. Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No matter how great a person is, if they did anything with ill intent to a children's hospital, I can't feel any pity or concern about them. Lock them up and throw away their keys.

    I'm hoping his time floating in the Gulf was horrible.

    1. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Boston Children's Hospital was likely in the wrong for what they did. Here's some background: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/12/07/difficult-return-hospital-for-justina-pelletier/u4JXzmt5YsmWhYk95za2aK/story.html. Justina Pelletier had been diagnosed with a mitochondrial disorder, but doctors at BCH decided the ailments were mental. They claimed that Pelletier's parents were harming her by seeking medical treatments that the BCH doctors deemed unnecessary with their diagnosis. Pelletier was declared a ward of the state and spent over a year in a psychiatric health unit. Another article worth reading is http://www.csoonline.com/article/2147347/hacktivism/activisms-slippery-slope-anonymous-targets-childrens-hospital.html, which says that there was a note allegedly written by Pelletier saying that caregivers in the psychiatric health unit were abusing her.

      Diagnosing some ailments is difficult, and doctors don't always agree. I suspect Pelletier's parents believed they were doing the right thing. Declaring her a ward of the state was a pretty awful thing to do. If the caregivers didn't treat her well, that's even worse. Campaigns on social media and going to the traditional media to protest this is absolutely warranted. Threatening to harm doctors crosses the line. Denial of service attacks against a hospital might affect systems used to provide medical care, endangering patients. That's truly wrong because it puts innocent people at risk of being collateral damage.

    2. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first thought too, but then i thought i don't what the "attacks" were. Maybe just targeting some asshole doctor. Wouldn't be a first time FBI misinforms what the whole thing is actually about. After reading the article, yeah DDoS. That's not good. Innocent patients could have suffered because of that. Had it been targeted against the incompetent doctor(s) i would have no problem with this.

    3. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That hits pretty hard. Hard to tell if parents or the doctors have too much or too little power over such things. I've seen both sides within my family.

      Thanks for the background information. Hard to pity the guy still, but I can at least hope he didn't get food poisoning on the cruise ship as recompense. Everything else sticks to what I said above.

    4. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, they were not "likely in the wrong for what they did". Do you think it's just a coincidence that she was "in desperate need of hospitalization" when they separated her from her parents, then during the time away from them she became healthy enough to be going out and playing, going from interview to interview, going on trips, etc... then a couple months later after living with her parents ended up back in the hospital on an IV drip?

      It amazes me how everyone took the parents statements at face value in this case. According to the hospital, they didn't just rush off and try to get her declared a ward of the state - after the parents refused to listen, they tried to convene a meeting with all of her past caretakers, other people who knew her, etc, but the parents derailed their efforts. They basically had no choice but to either let the parents continue to do what they were convinced was medical child abuse, or step in. And the judge didn't just defer to the hospital's diagnosis in his ruling to put her in protective custody, but also blasted the parents for their erratic behavior and for trying to derail all attempts at compromise. There were many proposals laid out that would have left them with custody of her, but "Rather, the parents, either directly or indirectly, continue to engage in very concerning conduct that does not give this court any confidence they will comply with conditions of custody.'

      The case was accused of basically being Munchhausen Syndrome by proxy - that is, the caretaker lies to or otherwise misleads the child and doctors about their child's condition, and often seeks treatment that actually cause the child to develop real symptoms which they then play into their dealings with the child and with doctors. They often engage extensively in doctor shopping, staying only with a doctor so long as he agrees to continue doing whatever treatments they feel are necessary for the child. Kids are very suggestible to begin with, even without parents doing that sort of thing. In the case of Justina, when they brought in a psychologist, the psychologist immediately noticed that the severity of Justina's symptoms was highly dependent on whether her mother was around, and the mother was constantly playing up everything.

      It's easy to get concerned about the seriousness of taking a child out of their parents' custody - it's a massive blow to both the parents and the child. But let's also not forget the seriousness of what medical child abuse is all about. In the case of Justina, her parents had taken her for all kinds of surgeries and invasive procedures, some risky and experimental, such as installing a flush port to her digestive tract in her abdomen. She was said to have "mito", but her metabolic workup showed perfectly normal results. She had never had a muscle biopsy. While she was at the hospital her parents were trying to have a feeding tube installed. She was taking a wide range of medications, some with harmful side effects. If you were concerned that this was a case of MSP and were looking at what these parents had done and what they were trying to do, wouldn't you be concerned?

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    5. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by dcollins117 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Munchausen syndrome by proxy is a mental illness and a form of child abuse. Her parents had a port permanently installed in the child's intestines when there was no medical reason to do so, and were now petitioning the doctors at BCH for even more invasive treatments.

      Doctors at BCH examined the child, remember, and found no medical evidence to explain her symptoms. Removing the child from her parents is not something they undertook lightly, but in this case was warranted - the child's symptoms were much improved after being removed from her abusive parents. That her parents then turned "social media" to garner sympathy should also raise a big red flag. I'm going to side with the medical experts on this one.

    6. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not that simple. This isn't a case of siding with the medical experts versus the parents. This was a case where the medical experts disagreed on the causes of the child's symptoms. The doctors at BCH claimed it was a mental health issue. The doctors at Tufts believed it was a physical health issue. The parents were stuck in the middle between doctors at two hospitals who disagreed. When the opted to follow the treatments proposed by doctors at Tufts, the doctors at BCH alleged medical child abuse. BCH made claims of medical child abuse in a similar case with a different child. In that case, removing the medical treatments actually harmed the child during the course of a six week hospital stay. If a parent agrees to remove necessary physical treatments from a child based on the diagnosis of a different doctor when the physical treatments were necessary, couldn't that be considered child abuse? The child is now being treated by doctors at a hospital at Yale who again believe the issues are physical in nature rather than mental. What you call siding with the medical professionals is actually siding with one group of doctors in the minority versus the diagnoses of doctors at two other hospitals. You're also siding with doctors who apparently made an improper allegation of medical child abuse in another similar case.

    7. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Threatening to harm doctors does cross the line, but if you put yourself in their position you can see how they view the doctors as threatening to harm Justina. The whole "ward of the state" move is something that should carry some personal responsibility for the person "making the call" - I know it's a tough job and that most people in it do far more good than harm, but it's a job that absolutely demands compassion and sympathy for the people who are being impacted by the decisions - and often the people doing it just treat it like a mechanistic procedure execution, or worse still, a TSAesque power trip.

    8. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Munchhausen Syndrome by proxy is very real. My earlier reply shows how limited exposure to the facts of the case can give a particular point of view weight - sometimes too much weight. We have friends who brought their infant in to a hospital for treatment and, thanks to the hospital staff executing procedure like mechanized drones, lost custody of their infant for over a week while they were forced to engage lawyers and drop their entire life to get their child back. The hospital made the absolute wrong call from a humanitarian point of view, but since there was a procedure in place all they had to do was point to it and they're congratulated for "doing their job."

    9. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Munchausen syndrome by proxy is a mental illness and a form of child abuse

      and it is a significant contributor to the infant mortality rate.

      It's a tough nut to crack, how to respect good parent's rights while identifying the cases in which they really are abusing their child (or themselves in straight Munchausen syndrome without the proxy.)

      I'd err on the side of "refuse to treat" rather than "remove the child from the home" - but that's also a quick way for the child to end up dead. It's kind of similar to a patient showing up demanding an MRI, then identifying their gall bladder on the MRI and insisting it's a painful tumor and needs to be removed, then going home and drinking poison, returning with symptoms of poisoning, but demanding the only treatment they will accept is removal of "the painful tumor" - what do you do there?

    10. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boston Children's Hospital was likely in the wrong for what they did

      Man fuck slashdot

    11. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      If the parents have an accredited institution backing their decisions, BCH needs to respect the parents' decision and get the hell out of the case. That would be simple overstepping of their authority and role - BCH is there to help, but if the parents prefer Tufts, BCH needs to leave the parents the hell alone - attack Tufts if they must, but not through any negative consequences to the family. Even if the family is nuttier than a truck full of fruitcakes, BCH should go down for something like this, hard.

    12. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you die of AIDS

    13. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow I think had BCH stood down they could have been sued for negligence. Their actions are perfectly logical in that light.

    14. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by sycodon · · Score: 4, Informative

      Holy Crap, you people are ignorant.

      1. Justina's Doctor moved from their home town to BCH.
      2. HE was the one that diagnosed her and was treating her.
      3. They took her there in order to see him during a difficult time for her.
      4. BCH people NEVER LET HIM SEE HER.
      5. Instead, they sent her to the Psch ward where some asshat Doctor had a program that had previously taken children away from other parents.

      To reiterate. HER Doctor, who Diagnosed her and was treating her, moved to BCH. That's why they went there.

      BTW, her doctor is a leading expert in the field of mitochondrial disease.

      It's all out there for anyone to read with just a tiny bit of effort.

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    15. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Rei · · Score: 0

      If it were Munchhausen by proxy, she'd have gotten far better than observed. Doctors say that while she got better, she didn't get WELL.

      After 14 years of it, no, that's not really expected. As was stated by the medical team.

      And anyone who heroizes attacks on childrens' hospitals is horrible.

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    16. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Rei · · Score: 1

      To be more specific (FDIA is another name for the condition): Link

      What are the complications of factitious disorder imposed on another?

      This disorder can lead to serious short- and long-term complications, including continued abuse, multiple hospitalizations, and the death of the victim. (Research suggests that the death rate for victims of FDIA is about 10 percent.) In some cases, a child victim of FDIA learns to associate getting attention to being sick and develops factitious disorder imposed on self. Considered a form of child abuse, FDIA is a criminal offense.

      What is the prognosis (outlook) for people with factitious disorder imposed on another?

      Generally, FDIA is a very difficult disorder to treat and often requires years of therapy and support. Social services, law enforcement, children's protective services, and physicians must function as a team to stop the behavior.

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    17. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it's a children's hospital that is literally getting children killed, I think we can call it justified. Boston Children's Hospital is a horrible hospital and should be shut down for what they did. Anonymous was 100% justified in their actions since the law won't act.

    18. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are still defending an incorrect position on the part of BCH which could have resulted in a child's death. Ignoring parents, taking away custody, putting a child in a psychiatric ward for a year after misdiagnosing her illness, resulting in mistreatment of the child. It could have resulted in the child's death. Perhaps you would feel better then if the child was dead?

      If there is no accountability in a children's hospital and it remains a danger to others with children who have these conditions, then Anonymous's collective actions were warranted.

    19. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll say anything to defend this garbage. Fucking statist shitbag.

    20. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it is a significant contributor to the infant mortality rate

      [Citation needed]

    21. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Whether the doctor/hospital was harming the child or not is a matter that the state and the courts were involved in. Where does this individual, acting under the Anonymous label, gain anything for anyone by injecting themselves into the debate with an attack?

      This was a DDoS attack, not a fishing expedition to find incriminating documents. In the latter case, I could at least see a value to one side or another in freeing information. In this case, they just denied service to users, which in the case of a hospital, is hard to justify unless you think that BCH is equivalent to Dr. Mengele's laboratory.

      I have no idea who is right or who is wrong in the original situation, but I see no utility in executing a DDoS in this scenario. It feels like the DDoS in the hands of some hackers is a "solution" looking for a problem. Or to put it more bluntly, it's used when someone who knows how to execute a DDoS just gets mad about something and wants to show how mad they are about it.

    22. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Yes, DDoS was a childish play, petty revenge, and not helpful to anyone from a logical standpoint.

      From an emotional standpoint, the M.D. is screwing with this person using the power of his position, not that this justifies somebody screwing with his practice in some eye for an eye balance of things, but... when my first child was about to be born, I very nearly punched out a billing clerk who interjected herself into the process with a very untimely demand for money - here's a woman who has slacked off on her job for the last 3 months, finally deciding to present me with a personal request for payment (first time I'd been told how much to make the check out for), and she's delaying my wife and child from proceeding to care for what was clearly at the time absolutely without question a life and death situation, followed up by 2 weeks in ICU - delay could have made a bad situation very much worse, and here she is demanding a delay. I didn't punch her, I didn't openly threaten to punch her, but she should really know in her position just how close I came to making things worse for myself, my wife, and my child that day because of the utter banal stupidity she was perpetrating on the situation.

    23. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by avgjoe62 · · Score: 1

      I have no idea who is right or who is wrong in the original situation, but I see no utility in executing a DDoS in this scenario. It feels like the DDoS in the hands of some hackers is a "solution" looking for a problem.

      When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

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    24. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by lucien86 · · Score: 1

      Munchausen by proxy is also fantastically easy to misdiagnose. With what I know about psychology and psychiatry I wouldn't even 100% trust it to be real. Neither field can claim to true understanding of how the brain works and both have a history of inventing 'quack' illnesses, and of massive misdiagnoses. I've also seen how good people like doctors or police can be at covering things up when they make a mistake - especially if it might cost them their careers or time in prison..

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    25. Re:Nice to have a black / white image of a person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just dropped her/them in the street and give them a referral sheet to homeless shelters, like is practice in NYC for mental cases? These comments even forgot discussing the hacker.

  4. Re: Nice to have a black / white image of a person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously...

  5. Anonymous became a tool of establishment by sittingnut · · Score: 2, Interesting

    as time went on Anonymous increasingly became a tool of western 'liberal' establishment pushing its ideology against outsiders.
    for example, it, becoming prosecutor, judge, and executioner, tried to take down twitter accounts (branded as isis supporters) of those protesting and resisting( by definition through a non violent platform of tweets) western crimes, torture camps, invasions, etc.. it tried to do the same for outsider candidate trump. in contrast Anonymous has not done anything against establishment criminals like clintons, or members of western military drone killing children in countries it invaded , or those running the torture camps illegally.

    1. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think that "Western liberal" values, i.e. individual freedoms, secularism, human rights, and defending these against religions, states and corporations, have nothing to do with Anonymous then you've never understood Anonymous.

    2. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Are you claiming ISIS are the good guys who are just resisting Western imperialism?

      You know that they are so insanely, aggressively viciously violent that even the "west's" formerly most reviled terrorist group (Al Queda) denounced them. Whatever you think aout the Clintons, ISIS is much, much worse.

      You're also falling into the logical fallacy of claiming something is bad because it doesn't address every possible problem simultaneously and/or the problems that you consider to be particularly important. It is of course possible to criticize every organisation for that because there are always too many problems to solve, so it's an empty, meaningless criticism.

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    3. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think Trump isn't part of the establishment I don't know what to tell you. You know he's best mates with the likes of the very people you're saying are part of the establishment like the Clintons right?

      If you're dumb enough to be peddled whatever story a populist tells you rather than judging them on their connections and past actions then you should probably leave things like politics to people who are capable of, you know, thinking.

      Anonymous isn't any one set of groups, but if you're wondering why the majority support liberal ideas then have you considered that that might be because it's the very basis of the Western world and the alternative is all those countries that are, simply put, shit? It's possible to be anti-establishment without going to the extreme of supporting ISIS which is what you seem to be arguing for. It's possible to be anti-establishment in the West by simply asking for more liberalism whereas your view is unless you're supporting and intolerant dictatorship then you're not anti-establishment and yet kowtowing to a dictator or would be dictator as you're suggesting people should is the very definition of being pro-establishment.

      Go take your ISIS sympathy to Syria, you wont be missed.

    4. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If you think that "Western liberal" values, i.e. individual freedoms, secularism, human rights, and defending these against religions, states and corporations, have nothing to do with Anonymous then you've never understood Anonymous.

      That was once what "Western liberal" meant. Now it encompasses those who want a lesser government, so that they can freely steal... (from their clients!), those who think they are blessed when they make money and poor people are scum, those who want to lobby the government to put its machinery at their service and those who generally think that being liberal is seeking Liberty for themselves -- even if that means less Liberty for others.

      I also felt it was bad for Anonymous to attack a children's hospital, until I saw why (and read her story). The hospital doctors seem to be at least incompetent, something I myself went thru once.

      The problem is that Anonymous is not capable of an appropriate answer in this case. As has been pointed out, endangering other patients in unacceptable, even if the doctors would be proved guilty of anything. Also, vigilante justice without due process already made innocent victims (in that Boston race bombing case IIRC).

      I generally side with Anonymous, but this case illustrates well when things go wrong.

      Above all, do no harm. This should be a humanity-wide rule. Or, as Voltaire masterfully put it, "It is better to risk saving a guilty man than to condemn an innocent one."

    5. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by MPAB · · Score: 1

      Now it encompasses those who want a lesser government, so that they can freely steal... (from their clients!), those who think they are blessed when they make money and poor people are scum, those who want to lobby the government to put its machinery at their service ...

      So, these "western liberals" want at the same time a lesser government but a bigger government???

      It's funny how many people push so much for an all-powerful government but only if it agrees with their ideas, then complain when the tide shifts.

    6. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also observe that Anonymous and Wikileaks have become vigilantes for the "liberal" (as opposed to "conservative") establishment. They seem to concentrate on those that do not follow the politically correct consensus, while tiptoeing around agents that may be as corrupt as the rest but show a "progressive" façade.
      I'd also like them to bring ashore the corruption in countries such as Venezuela or Iran, but they don't seem to care too much about them. Because of their anti-occidental stance, perhaps?

    7. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      you seem to be a typical product of american 'education'

      That's very curious, very curious indeed, given I'm not American.

      read and understand before replying if possible.

      You seem to be confusing disagreeing wiht not understanding. I read, I understood and I disagree. I put forth arguments, and you did not attempt to address them (beyond a few insults), and instead just restated. So, I'll restate my arguments once more.

      i said Annoymous is applying double standards in favor of western 'liberal' establishment; doing nothing against establishment criminals like clintons, american military that drone kill children, and those who run torture camps, etc (all of which btw are crimes as bad or worse, as any committed by anyone else),

      You said that already. I think that's a logical fallacy. There is more wrong in this world than any one person or organisation has the resources, energy or will to tackle. The thing is if they picked on the clintons[sic] and ISIS, there would be some third group who they would be ignoring, which you could point out. And if they went for that third group too, there would be a fourth and a fifth and so on and so on.

      One can ALWAYS level the accusation of "double standards" if someone doesn't follow your personal pet cause.

      all of which btw are crimes as bad or worse, as any committed by anyone else

      There's always room to be worse. The torture camps and drone striked against kids are very bad indeed. ISIS is guilty of all those (well not drone strikes, since they don't have drones but they have no qualms about slaughtering kids) and more like genocide as well.

      Just because the US establishment has done some awful things doesn't mean that someone out there can't be worse. And that someone is ISIS, by a ong shot. You're drawing a false equivalence between the two.

      while it is on the attack against those who merely tweet support for resisting those same crimes

      Do you have any evidence of those claims? That those tweets were simply about resisting American crimes, or were about supporting an organisation actively engaged in genocide and the mass murder of those who follow the wrong religion?

      You accuse me of brainwashing, but you seem to be just as guilty of it.

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    8. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read, I understood and I disagree

      You didn't understand, though. OP was talking about Anonymous taking down purported ISIS supporters who were using a non-violent platform (Twitter) to represent their opinions.

      You replied with a random rant about ISIS being really bad. The subject of the conversation wasn't even ISIS. It was Anonymous. And you asked "Are you claiming ISIS are the good guys who are just resisting Western imperialism?" which he wasn't claiming at all.

      Your post was 100% knee-jerk bullcrap.

    9. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > So, these "western liberals" want at the same time a lesser government but a bigger government???

      Indeed, and that is quite an oxymoron de per se, but practical solutions are quickly arranged:

      1. Have a smaller government;
      2. Pass typical government abilities on to corporations -- e.g., causing someone to be deemed guilty without due process by fast-lane methods (e.g. DMCA).

      > It's funny how many people push so much for an all-powerful government but only if it agrees with their ideas, then complain when the tide shifts.

      FTFY: It's funny how many people complain when we use law to reach our immoral objectives. Why can't we freely do evil?

      Puh-lease, stop being lame. Have a brain, will you? Yeah, I know, you despise all this talk about morals. Well, uh, deal with it.

    10. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you mean is, Anonymous became more and more divided and some of those branches came up with their own name to distance themselves from the majority of Anonymous cells.

      Anonymous isn't one group of person. Never has been since it stopped becoming a joke and became a movement in 2006-7.
      This is why they all do random things that don't follow any sort of logic, from attacking epilepsy forums to targeting drug cartels in Mexico.

      3 separate groups existed before the Chanology crap started, from what I remember. (and the 4chan branch were trying to shit on the other two groups fun for the lulz, 711 and forgot the other one)
      420 and 7chan got on board with it when it became a case of pissing off Scientologist [m/b]illionaires like Tom Cruise.
      It grew more and more fractured as the years passed.
      It still continues to splinter even now because people want to distance themselves from the Anonymous name due to being massive attention-whores that inevitably get caught. GG.

      I don't even want to imagine how many separate groups exist now. Most of them have their own little imageboards, textboards or IRC channels, sometimes even Steam groups.

    11. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      i said Anonymous is a tool of western 'liberal' establishment, because it is ignoring its crimes

      And I said that doesn't make them a tool and I gave reasons, which you've ignored.

      there is no false equivalence, there is equivalence, period. crimes of western establishment and isis are comparable in horror.

      Frankly, no they're not. The thing about badness is you can always have more of it. No matter how bad someone is, it's possible for someone else to be worse. What seems to be the problem is that you've latched on to some awful thing the Us has done and you are incapable of conceiving that there could possibly be anything worse. You are, of course either mistaken or ignorant. There's always room for worse, and ISIS is it.

      how exactly is any crime worse than drone killing of children?

      How about genocide of the children, their parantes and, if ISIS gets it's way, their entire race? I assert that is worse.

      And WTF is your obsession with drones? How is killing children with a drone any worse than shooting them with an AK-47, stoning them to death or shelling them?

      And trivially, killing more people is always worse than killing fewer. ISIS have killed far more than US drone strikes. Does that make the rather "collateral damage" heavy drone strikes good or acceptable? No, not even slightly. But is ISIS killing around 200,000 worse than the US killing 10,000? Yep, very much so.

      if anything, while quality of evil is similar, as far as quantity goes western establishment is far worse.

      I would argue that you are mistaken on both counts.

      do explain. don't run from questions.

      I did, twice. You're intent on just stating your rhetoric with no actual argument, ignoring my points then accusing me of having an "american" education and of irrationality.

      or do you side with one side over another?

      Yes I do. I mean, why support the greater of two evils? Much better to go with the lesser.

      as in drone killing children is ok, systematic torture and killing of unarmed prisoners without judicial oversight is ok, bombing whole towns to dust is ok , but terrorist attacks in paris is not ok, torturing and killing of unarmed prisoners(by other side) is not ok,

      Again, you are weirdly obsessed with drones. Apart from drones, ISIS engages in all of those things with great gusto. they slaughter children, and families, shell whole towns to dust with artillery, torture prisoners (do they have judicial oversight? who cares: as far as they care it's within their laws to do so), and so on.

      Everything you're accusing the US of, ISIS is doing, and more so.

      You're also ignoring the genocide which they're attempting to commit.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    12. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > So, these "western liberals" want at the same time a lesser government but a bigger government???

      Indeed, and that is quite an oxymoron de per se, but practical solutions are quickly arranged:

      1. Have a smaller government;
      2. Pass typical government abilities on to corporations -- e.g., causing someone to be deemed guilty without due process by fast-lane methods (e.g. DMCA).

      > It's funny how many people push so much for an all-powerful government but only if it agrees with their ideas, then complain when the tide shifts.

      FTFY: It's funny how many people complain when we use law to reach our immoral objectives. Why can't we freely do evil?

      Puh-lease, stop being lame. Have a brain, will you? Yeah, I know, you despise all this talk about morals. Well, uh, deal with it.

      Dude.

      Share what you're smoking.

      It's gotta be good.

    13. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      IS(IS|IL|) is a violent organization. They're using Twitter as a means to recruit, not to transition to some non-violent pro-democracy form that uses the power of persuasion to make people happy members of whatever extremist religious sect they pretend to represent.

      It's also fair to say that if they did pick on "the Clintons" or whatever your preferred target would be, Anonymous would also end up attacking the low hanging fruit, say, their Twitter feed or public facing websites, or whatever, which you'll note are also the "peaceful" parts of what the US establishment uses. Anonymous isn't about to hack into the military's networks and disable the ability of the US government to use drones. For one thing, that'd be quite a bit harder. For another, while hacking Twitter and sabotaging US military equipment both qualify as illegal, the latter actually has the death penalty associated with it, so the stakes are somewhat higher.

      That said, as I understand it, Anonymous is a free-for-all in terms of who can get involved, so if that's what you want to do, well... technically nobody in that group is stopping you. OpGetOurselvesSentencedToDeathByTryingToSabotageDrones certainly is something you can start and participate in.

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    14. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What have they really done besides doxing and a few DDoSs, anyway? Oh, and a few data dumps from private companies with information that no one really cared about.

    15. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, I'm not talking about you personally. You might have some tortuous reasoning which escapes my ability to understand it and share the same ideas which I think might be evil in intent, but you yourself not having such spirit.

      Now, don't dismiss my ideas without consideration (e.g. with "ad hominem" attacks like the above); by doing so, you'll only gather a general opinion of being superficial (or "practical", like the ones who choose that way proudly calls themselves).

      While we cannot force people to have a good heart, and thus spend their time caring about their neighbor, we can't also allow egocentric ones to act like if the world was created to serve them. This is unbearable because of the consequences and on principle.

      I cannot fix the world, that's for sure, but I cannot accept being guilty by inaction. Live and let live is great; live and let harm, not so much.

    16. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comment was already stupid to start with, but when you reach "against trump", that just reach the hilariously stupid spot.
      A Trump supporter talking about "irrational ignorance"... and complaining about "drone kill children" ??? yes, drone kill is for pussy, Trump would carpet bomb children, or maybe napalm or nuke, whichever chuck norris recommend.
      Trump 2016

    17. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Holi · · Score: 1

      Anonymous was originally a cyber vandalism tag. Many who used to work with anonymous have left due the use of the anonymous label in regards to politics. It's original intent was to cause some havok and have a few laughs.

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    18. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should have gone after the worst mass murderer in the history of the United States of America: George W. Bush. Thank God the American people were smart enough to elect Obama to bring our troops home and utilize drones for tightly targeted air strikes instead. Now we can focus on the destruction of the evil Muslim filth that corrode the Earth with their heinous barbarism.

    19. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      If you think that "Western liberal" values, i.e. individual freedoms, secularism, human rights, and defending these against religions, states and corporations, have nothing to do with Anonymous then you've never understood Anonymous.

      What has been Anonymous' three biggest victories? I don't follow them, so I'm curious as to how effective they have been.

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    20. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey look, Jeb got on the internet? Nice rant you dumb partisan faggot. You ENTIRELY missed the point of EVERYTHING here.

    21. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anonymous' most visible weapon is a large collection of useful idiots that are highly impressionable to anything delivered via synthesized audio in a youtube video with a Guy Fawkes mask in it. Then again: what else is new? "Counterculture group is easily manipulated as a tool for the status quo... Anti-nuclear proliferation GMO PETA ELF GREENPEACE news at 11!"

    22. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly this all started when /b/ stopped accepting mods, as the theory goes, because they were already being modded by the FBI and moot had handed over the "keys". The minute anon stopped being a reflection of the collective will of the people, that is, did enough people give a shit to LOIC something and possible get vanned for it, it became a convenient scapegoat for the powers that be to push for internet fuckery because of scary anonymous. Of course LOIC threads were banned by said FBI mods.

      Oh and moot in a year flipped his position from freedom of speech to "social justice". Anonymous now is a 15 year old wearing the mask of my dead brothers.

    23. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      No, they all want bigger government, all the time.

    24. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you display the same low level of education that most americans display.

      You should capitalize the "A" in Americans as it's a proper name. Also, you should capitalize the first letter of the first word in each new sentence. Or did you not learn these things in your vastly superior, non-American education?

    25. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you mean unattributed victories that can't name an individual or name a concerted organization? Or do you mean the loosely (at best) spread umbrella over the (also inconsistently defined) factions that have all used it as a banner over the years?

      Scientology, I guess.

    26. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Scientology, I guess.

      I asked for three.

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    27. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by sittingnut · · Score: 1

      all your 'arguments' ( to be generous to call them that )were answered previously.

      you are yet to answer any of my arguments, but continues to display your ignorance, irrationality and twisted morality.

      and i have nothing but contempt for a person like you who justifies child killing, torture and invasions etc etc ( all of which are committed by western establishment and isis). you( and Anonymous) support one side, i none.
      you must love living off blood of innocents.!

       

    28. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by sittingnut · · Score: 1

      thanks for admitting that you have run out of all rational arguments against me and is reduced to finding fault with my capitalization.

    29. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by sittingnut · · Score: 1

      who said i support trump ?
      i said Anonymous is acting like a tool of western 'liberal' establishment against its opponents

    30. Re:Anonymous became a tool of establishment by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      you must love living off blood of innocents.!

      No, I dislike their blood: I find it a bit icky. I prefer feasting on their livers.

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  6. The Bahamas - a new territory of the USA? by Bruce66423 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    " the Bahamas, where FBI agents took him into custody". There - and I thought that it was an independent country. Will they be getting Medicare soon?

    1. Re:The Bahamas - a new territory of the USA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will they be getting Obamacare soon?

    2. Re:The Bahamas - a new territory of the USA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will they be getting Medicare soon?

      They already have it.

    3. Re:The Bahamas - a new territory of the USA? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      I thought that [the Bahamas] was an independent country.

      the Bahamas is located right off the coast of Florida and are reliant on the US for tourism. they wouldn't do anything to jeopardize relations with the US.

      Will they be getting Medicare soon?

      will you shut up if i answer, "yes"?

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    4. Re:The Bahamas - a new territory of the USA? by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      " the Bahamas, where FBI agents took him into custody". There - and I thought that it was an independent country. Will they be getting Medicare soon?

      The FBI has agents in embassies around the world, where ether coordinate with local law enforcement. The Bahamas probably simply decided to let the FBI take them rather than arrest them themselves and then go through extradition proceedings.

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    5. Re:The Bahamas - a new territory of the USA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called an extradition treaty dumbass.

      http://www.mcnabbassociates.com/Bahamas%20International%20Extradition%20Treaty%20with%20the%20United%20States.pdf

    6. Re:The Bahamas - a new territory of the USA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " the Bahamas, where FBI agents took him into custody". There - and I thought that it was an independent country. Will they be getting Medicare soon?

      see "Team America : World Police"

    7. Re:The Bahamas - a new territory of the USA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the Bahamas is located right off the coast of Florida and are reliant on the US for tourism. they wouldn't do anything to jeopardize relations with the US.

      Indeed. They also have one company of riflemen, basically glorified police with some light automatic weapons and a few small patrol boats, compared with the most powerful military on the planet based literally right next door. There was exactly zero chance that the Bahamians were going to tell the United States "no" over a couple of vagabonds rescued from a sailboat who are themselves Americans anyway. If I was in charge in Bahamas I would have handed them over too. Sheesh, people have unrealistic expectations of what small countries are able and willing to do.

    8. Re:The Bahamas - a new territory of the USA? by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      Clearly, he should have been given a plane ticket to the US and told to turn himself in. What could go wrong?

  7. I can (kinda) understand him trying to flee by Nutria · · Score: 1

    to Cuba (except for the piss-poor Internet), but why the hell was a Disney ship near Cuba?

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    1. Re:I can (kinda) understand him trying to flee by softnewsit · · Score: 1

      cuba is quite close the florida and they probably heard a distress call

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    2. Re:I can (kinda) understand him trying to flee by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Disney Caribbean cruise travels first to a port in Mexico, then essentially sails around to the other side of Cuba to either Grand Cayman and/or Jamaica, depending on the cruise you book. All the interesting islands in the Caribbean essentially surround Cuba. See for yourself:

      http://disneycruiselineblog.co...

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    3. Re:I can (kinda) understand him trying to flee by Xest · · Score: 2

      How else do you think Obama managed to get Cuba to come in from the cold and start warming ties with the US? They finally relented and offered him anything he wanted if they'd just stop torturing their island after he blasted the Frozen song at them off the coast for the 3087th time whilst they were forced to watch a hundred Mickey Mouses dance around on the deck every time they tried to simply enjoy their beautiful beaches.

    4. Re:I can (kinda) understand him trying to flee by phayes · · Score: 1

      All the interesting islands in the Caribbean essentially surround Cuba.

      Are you trying to claim that Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, St Johns, Anguilla, St Kitts, Nevis, Montserrat, Guadeloupe, Dominica, Martinique, etc are of no interest or are you claiming that all the the windward and leeward islands that all lie far east of Cuba somehow "surround" it ?

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    5. Re:I can (kinda) understand him trying to flee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, I can understand HIM trying to flee. How is it that someone who tries to attack children's hospitals and then tries to flee to cuba in a boat STILL HAS A WIFE? I know I would be separated / divorced if I did anything like that. My wife (who is awesome) would not get on a sailboat to go to Cuba with me. Wouldn't most spouses say heck with that?

    6. Re:I can (kinda) understand him trying to flee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No love for Saba?

    7. Re:I can (kinda) understand him trying to flee by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2
      Because of the trade embargo with Cuba, all these small islands thrived in US tourist traffic. Now that Cuba is opening up, a very strong tourism industry will develop in Cuba and most of these tiny tourist spots might lose significant revenue. Would not be surprised if these tiny islands become affordable [*] to the bottom half of the top 1% in the next two decades.

      [*] I mean affordable for purchase, not merely visit. The whole island, not some minor property therein.

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    8. Re:I can (kinda) understand him trying to flee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maps.google.com

  8. Don't do the crime... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can't do the time..!

  9. Miami by jklovanc · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to a couple of reports he was arrested in Miami.

  10. Possibly the biggest surprise in the case by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

    Gottesfield and his wife

    1. Re:Possibly the biggest surprise in the case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A love doll is not a wife but will make a suitable raft for your trip out to open seas!

    2. Re:Possibly the biggest surprise in the case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a typoo.

    3. Re:Possibly the biggest surprise in the case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aargh! Matey, anything can be a wife in international waters.

  11. Disinformation work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think they were anything other than a random group of hackers who used the title.

    That 'organized group called 'Anonymous' with the flags and the glossy promotional videos and the press-releases, that will be an agency (e.g. JTRIG) doing a false flag attribution.

    Without a command structure and any discipline mechanism its not possible to order that group of sheep around, so none of that made sense for the basement dwelling real Anon.

    So when you see how Anonymous has announce they're doing this or that, and a PR video is released, that will be some government doing this or that with false attribution because they don't want to be associated directly with it.

  12. You arrogant asshat by Viol8 · · Score: 1

    "Had it been targeted against the incompetent doctor(s) i would have no problem with this."

    So a stressed out doctor who may have worked 80 hours that week makes one mistake and you think its ok to cyber attack him systems which may compromise patients records or even their treatment??

    Why the fuck do people like you think you're judge and jury??!

    1. Re:You arrogant asshat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that was based on the backstory by AC up there. Of course, a mistake could possibly be forgiven, but total incompentense and malicousness is not.

      Like i said it depends on the facts, and the "judgment" was based on the "facts" presented to me. "facts" are in quotes, because i'm not anywhere near the case, but in a similar case where those true facts, that'd be my reaction.

      How the hell do you know there was just one overworked doctor making all the decisions? You don't. You are just as arrogant in assuming that, even more so, since you don't have anything to back that up.

      I don't think i'm a jury. A jury is a pretty stupid concept. I don't see me being a judge either, since wether i have a problem with it or not is not legally binding. I also have no plans to do anything about it.

      Thanks for playing. No cookie for you.

    2. Re:You arrogant asshat by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      "A jury is a pretty stupid concept. "

      I think my initial subject line was too kind to you. You're clearly an utter moron.

    3. Re:You arrogant asshat by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 1

      Maybe doctors shouldn't be working 80 hours per week.

  13. I didn't think Anonymous could go much lower by Viol8 · · Score: 1

    But attacking a childrens hospital because of one particular case that Mr Self Appointed Judge and Jury clearly had issues with is really setting a new low bar. I honestly hope they put him in a cell with Big Bubba and throw away the key. And at 31 years old the guy needs to grow the fuck up fast. This is the sort of shit that teenagers pull, not a supposed adult.

    1. Re:I didn't think Anonymous could go much lower by rally2xs · · Score: 1

      Pretty much for jailing any of these outlaws that act independently to interfere with others on their own. Doesn't matter who they're interfering with, don't care if its bin Laden, doesn't matter, they don't have the right to act independently and maliciously. If they want to make a difference to wrongdoers, they can gather data and tell the FBI to "sic 'em."

  14. Never mind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure there other idiot volunteers ready to attack other worthy targets like bereavement charities, puppy sanctuaries, make-a-wish foundations etc. Maybe Anonymous should give them a course in seamanship first, just in case.

  15. parent is a one-sided deceptive view (mod down) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's never that simple, when parents receive conflicting information from different doctors. And when someone alleges a parent is abusing a child, that be a very scary thing. It's particularly so when it involves removing custody from a parent who genuinely wants the best for the child. It's very possible the parents may not have cooperated out of fear. There are plenty of people who will say that medical child abuse is overcharged, that it's actually less frequent than the accusations that are made.

    There have been other improper allegations of medical child abuse made by BCH and others, some of which is well documented at http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/opinion/sunday/the-new-child-abuse-panic.html. Take the case of the Hilliards, described in the article. Their daughter died at age 5 from what experts concluded was a genetic disorder affecting mitochondrial function. When their three year old son began to show symptoms, the parents asked that he be tested. The hospital, also BCH in this case, alleged abuse, though the state disagreed. The parents took the child to Tufts to be treated. However, a BCH pediatrician called a different doctor at Tufts and again alleged abuse. The state intervened against the medical opinions of the pediatrician treating the child at Tufts. Under demands of the state, the treatments were scaled back, resulting in a six week hospital stay in which the child's condition worsened. The treatments were restored and the child recovered. In this case, the improper allegations of medical child abuse by BCH actually harmed the child involved. BCH has twice made the allegation of medical child abuse in similar circumstances, this one clearly being false.

    I have no clue why you'd simply accept BCH's word on this. Their credibility is certainly in question based on the other incident. Furthermore, there's plenty of reason to believe that most allegations of medical child abuse are completely unfounded.

    Justina spent over a year in psychiatric care at BCH. When that treatment ended, her symptoms hadn't improved. BCH may well have misdiagnosed Justina because their treatments weren't successful. Furthermore, it's unbelievable to me that you're willing to simply disregard the opinions of multiple other doctors both before and after the child abuse allegations who believe that Justina's symptoms are caused by physical health issues rather than mental health issues.

    1. Re:parent is a one-sided deceptive view (mod down) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I have no clue why you'd simply accept BCH's word on this. "

      I think it was the part where the kid got ill and needed to be hospitalized on an IV drip when she was at home but miraculously recovered while under the hospitals care that probably led to that outrageous conclusion

    2. Re:parent is a one-sided deceptive view (mod down) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Rei has always been a great supporter of the State. Whether it's oppressive environmental regulations or snatching a child from a family because they didn't blindly accept the medical advice from a strange doctor, that never even really spent time on their kid's case, and which conflicted wiht the advice of their family's doctor, Rei is right there backing up the Government.

      I guess you could say he is a Government Tool to end all Government Tools.

    3. Re:parent is a one-sided deceptive view (mod down) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doctors always want to go with the cheapest simplest solution. A complex issue means they have to actually work. I've experienced this first hand and have been living with pain far longer than I probably needed to because doctors felt that some of my medical history had no connection to my pain nor do specialists understand how mechanical issues, outside of their specialty, can play with things in their specialty.

    4. Re:parent is a one-sided deceptive view (mod down) by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      This is why I feel the "I'm just doing my job" shield needs to be removed from people who make judgements like taking a child away from their parents. Before a decision like that gets made, it needs to be reviewed by independent people, and if certain players in the game (BCH reps in this case) start taking consistent adversarial positions, they should be excused from decision making roles in future judgements - advocate, fine, judge or jury, no.

      Oh, but that takes too much time and is too expensive. What utter tripe. These are people's lives, with decisions as important as imprisonment and potentially manslaughter, they deserve the resources of the justice system, and if the existing justice system is too slow, it needs to make resources available to handle these cases in a "speedy trial" timeframe: less than 24 hours to convene and hear argument, less than 48 to reach a decision. Anyone who "don't want my taxes paying for that touchy feely crap" needs to spend a week in lockup every time they publically make such a statement; yeah, yeah, freedom of speech... but, point is, they lack perspective and won't really get it unless they experience the unjust side of the current system.

  16. Now... by argStyopa · · Score: 2

    ...make an example of him.

    At some point we seem to have recognized how vitally important networks and computers have become to our system, but we still pretty much treat hacking as a minor (if not outright trivial) crime.

    Then again, I'm for capital punishment because if you have 7+ billion of ANYTHING, they're demonstrably not precious.

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  17. Pretty shitty "hacker" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly these guys are not "hackers" but simply script kiddies. Remember kids, the proof that you are a kiddie is that you open your mouth and brag about shit.

  18. Hey FBI by Holi · · Score: 1

    Since they are not going to be needing it anymore, can I have their boat?

    What? I like to sail.

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  19. Interesting the flip/flop of reason because of ano by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting, the flip/flop of reason because the actor here is in anonymous. Many of these slash for members lean so hard left and believe in GOV as end all be all i.e. Big Healthcare i.e. an extension of the GOV.

  20. OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody KILL this MOTHERFUCKER who tried to murder children!!!

  21. Raises more questions.. by luckytroll · · Score: 1

    I am curious about the backstory to this attempted escape more than the foolishness of his hacking that put him in the crosshairs.

    Like, where did he get the boat? Was it stolen? Borrowed?
    Was it seaworthy? Sail or power? Where did they leave from?

    My guess is that they took off and tried crossing the gulf stream during a period when the wind was contrary and got tossed. The wife then tossed her cookies and probably demanded they get rescued.

    Knowing how things operate down there, they probably had eyes on them from the moment they left. The only surprise is that they did not show up on the FBI radar until they got picked up and IDd by the cruise ship. There is hella surveilance down there since the 80s to keep an eye on the smugglers. Even a wooden boat with negligible radar signature will still get scooped as that is what the Haitians are ghosting over on.

    I doubt they even got spitting distance from Cuba before the gulf stream put them in the wash cycle and started hauling them backwards. If they had arrived, the Cubans would probably have taken a dim view of their arrival. Unless you have money and a specific float plan, they see any boat entering their sheltered bays and harbours as a yankee plot.

  22. "Anonymous Hacker" by neminem · · Score: 1

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Clearly not very anonymous, if they knew exactly who he was and what he was doing, to arrest him...

    1. Re:"Anonymous Hacker" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Anonymous hacker" != "anonymous hacker"

      Is it headline capitalization that confused you? Or names not always been great descriptions of something?

      Do you get confused when QANTAS planes are flying outside of Queensland and the Northern Territory.

    2. Re:"Anonymous Hacker" by neminem · · Score: 1

      To clarify: I knew what it meant. I was just snarking, because the whole reason for the name "Anonymous" is because they would like to claim to *be* anonymous, and this guy clearly totally failed at it.

  23. Re: Nice to have a black / white image of a person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice strawmans there mi. I'm not even going to shoot it down. A troll will troll.

  24. Water logged ion cannons by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    While I think sentencing for hax0ring and in general has gotten way out of hand the DDOS attacks are just lame. They require no skill, have no class and closely resemble whiney little entitled bitches pouting.

    If they had defaced the hospitals website with some class in response to an action of the hospital they believed to be unjust I would be far less critical.