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LG G5 Unveiled: 5.3" QHD Display, Snapdragon 820, Modular Magic Slot Expansion (hothardware.com)

MojoKid writes: Rather than just bring another smartphone update with the typical yearly iterative tweaks, the folks at LG have really done something transformative with their next generation G5 flagship smartphone. The aluminum unibody construction of the G5 brings with it a 5.3-inch QHD display, powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 processor that is paired with 4GB of RAM. 32GB of internal storage is standard but there is a microSD card slot to allow for up to 2TB of expanded storage. On the rear, you'll find a fingerprint scanner and two cameras, a standard 16MP sensor and a 135-degree wide angle 8MP sensor. In addition, LG has included a USB-C port and removable 2800mAh battery. That's all rather routine stuff; what's truly innovative about the G5 is its Magic Slot, which brings a new modular twist to the Android platform. Pressing a key on the side of the G5 will eject its bottom section, which will also allow you to remove the battery. Then you can proceed to attach new modules, like the LG Cam Plus. The LG Cam Plus adds a camera grip to your G5 along with a dedicated camera button and a jog wheel for zooming. The module also boosts the battery capacity from 2800mAh to 4000mAh. The second module is the LG Hi-Plus, which brings with it an external 32-bit DAC and amplifier. This particular module was developed in conjunction with Bang and Olufsen and comes with a pair of H3 headphones that support native (Direct Stream Digital) DSD playback.

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  1. Removable battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is far from routine and deserves special mention.

    1. Re:Removable battery by danomac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, it's why I bought the LG G4 when my Galaxy S3 died. I won't buy a phone without a removable battery and microSD slot, it's planned obsolescence. FWIW, the G4 also supports a 2TB expansion slot.

      I don't replace my phone every 1.5 years, having a removable battery is a very important feature to me.

    2. Re:Removable battery by Kjella · · Score: 2

      FWIW, the G4 also supports a 2TB expansion slot.

      Technically any phone that supports SDXC should be able to do that, it's the maximum defined in the standard but most just list the capacity available on release. And I don't think cards bigger than 512GB exist yet, so no you can't actually have that at least not today.

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    3. Re: Removable battery by danomac · · Score: 2

      I had an iPhone a way long time ago - a 3G. After a year and a half, the battery wouldn't last longer than 4-5 hours. I ditched it then and only bought phones that had a removeable battery and microSD slot. With my Galaxy S3, I had already replaced the battery and used that phone over three years. I use the phone a lot for work (primarily email and scheduling) and don't have hardly any apps installed.

      I've always wondered if humid environments are harder on batteries? I've even had to replace the battery in my Harmony remote after 3 or so years. Right now it's 70%+ relative humidity outside. I have relatives that live in much drier climates that don't have issues with batteries like I do. I also have coworkers that have problems with the iPhone battery capacity dimishing, so it's not just me.

      I even had a spare battery for my S3. I always amused me how iPhone users always had to huddle around power outlets in public places because their phone is dying. I just put a fresh battery in my S3, although I haven't had to do this with my G4, it has a much bigger battery.

    4. Re: Removable battery by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Here's the thing for the wilfully obtuse (with glaring vested interests). I can sell my second Note 3 with a cheaply replaceable battery and voilà the person who buys it has a phone with full battery life because they can cheaply buy a new battery. This versus a battery change to regain full life as a major expenditure coming straight off the second hand value of the phone. So when I choose to swap phones that means at least, at the very least $100 more in my pocket (reality is phones without readily replaceable batteries are more likely to be just tossed, so more like a couple of hundred dollars extra in my pocket). Also added benefits, flash ram has life issues and by shifting things to readily replaceable storage, should it start to fail it can also be replaced. Also porting data to a new device, will I'll just store on it and swap it out.

      So basically screw the mega fucking bullshit PR crap about prettier phones when the reality is just all about forced redundancy. I want user replaceable storage memory (no fixed storage memory at all), user replaceable battery and waterproof and a stylus I can use as a handset and leave the phone in my pocket (you know neatly pops out the top with incoming call).

      Also from what is happening now days. I only want sufficient OS in the device to download and install the latest OS, with the latest security suite settings and I want that install to be anonymous.

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    5. Re: Removable battery by slaker · · Score: 2

      If you're shooting a lot of images or video or making heavy use of the screen and your LTE connection, you'll drain a battery, no matter what the device is. In those circumstances, I'd far rather slap in another battery than be semi-permanently tethered to an external battery pack (although nothing stops an LG G-series phone from using those as well - the external charger that came with mine can even act as one).

      Most smartphones I have some experience with will shoot two or three hours of full HD video before they're drained. This include the reasonably new iphone 5.

      Bring a dedicated camera? Why? My phone fits my pocket and I'm 100% certain I'll have it with me at all times. It's easier to throw a spare battery in my jacket pocket or laptop bag than haul around another full piece of kit.

      By the same token, having a card reader still makes a lot of sense to me. There's something to be said for having 232GB of storage connected to a device I know I will always have on hand. You can argue you don't need it, but it seems shortsighted to suggest that reasoning applies to anyone else who might use a smartphone.

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  2. Re:Translation by pushing-robot · · Score: 2

    I thought it translated to "Springboard Expansion Slot", but I guess I'm showing my age.

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  3. Re:Can I replace the radio? by Computershack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because I'm really sick and tired of being forced to buy new phones every time I want to switch carriers.

    Seems to be only a situation that exists in the USA. Here in Europe at most we just have to unlock the phone to work with all carriers assuming its locket at all, shove a new SIM card from the new provider in the phone and turn it on.

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  4. Is the magic slot specs open? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    I mean I could see third party peoples like Beltek making docking stations to attach the phone to TVs, or keyboard+monitor+mouse combo or interfaces to A/V receivers...

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  5. Re:great by Pulzar · · Score: 2

    yet another phone that requires a fucking degree in computer science to be able to make a call on!

    You use your phone to make calls with? How quaint.

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  6. Re:question: do you feel they're worth the money? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Buy a reasonable smartphone phone, pay it up front so you don't get on the "subsidized treadmill", and a cheap pay-as-you-go plan, and you will find your monthly bill dropping by between half and 3/4. It's not like they have to be replaced at 2 years + 1 day.

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  7. Re:question: do you feel they're worth the money? by wierd_w · · Score: 3, Informative

    With root access, along with Linux Deploy and SSH/VNC client apps installed, I get my money's worth.

    I buy retro phones with HW keyboards. They feel more like a very portable linux pc that way. In the linux chroot environment, I can run any linux usermode app I want, run any system daemon I want, and muck about with custom mounted filesystems. (even mounting image files on the sdcard into useful places that are visible from android.)

    I bought my HTC Doubleshot second hand off ebay, and put a custom built cyanogenmod on it with some additional kernel modules (like binfmtmisc, zram, nfs, and pals) to make the chrooted linux more useful.

    I have gotten my money's worth.

  8. Re:question: do you feel they're worth the money? by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The one I'm using now cost $30. I don't mean "$30 plus a two year contract", I mean that was the contractless cost of it. That's roughly what I paid for my last featurephone.

    One thing I've learned from the experience is that a cheap phone is generally going to be better than a hipster phone. The cheap phone will have buttons on it, something hipsters demand be removed on your $300-600 models because they, uh, destroy the fine lines of the phone or something? The cheap phone will have an SD card slot because it knows it doesn't come with enough memory, the hipster phone will assume 16Gb is enough for anyone. The cheap phone will have a long life removable battery because they're trying to sell to people with "You'll find this useful, and it's cheap!" rather than "This is the most exotic thing you will buy for three months, after which you'll throw it away and spend $300-600 on the next model."

    Weird, and not what I was expecting. And yeah, I like it and think it was totally worth $30.

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  9. Re:Never say "QHD". by sunderland56 · · Score: 2

    Why use any bleeping letter acronym at all? How hard is it to just say "2560x1440"? Clear, unambiguous, and doesn't require a google search to understand.

  10. Re:Translation by Baloroth · · Score: 2

    Actually, according to Ars Technica, LG is planning on creating some sort of open ecosystem for third-party hardware. What exactly that means is yet to be seen, but they've at least said that is in their plans.

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  11. Re:Never say "QHD". by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 2
    Clear, unambiguous, and doesn't require a google search to understand.

    Thats the answer, right there. Marketdroids are terrified that you might understand what you are buying. It is their worst nightmare, In fact, it makes you a terrorist!

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  12. Re:question: do you feel they're worth the money? by rasmusbr · · Score: 2

    What's everyone else's experiences with smartphones?

    I can communicate by text anywhere and everywhere... I am expected to do so, too.

    I can use the web anywhere and everywhere.

    I no longer get lost outdoors. I still get lost in large shopping malls and other large indoor places.

    I always have a decent compact camera with me.

    Podcasts, music and ebooks are invaluable whenever I have to sit and wait somewhere.

    (Of course, you can get all of these benefits by carrying a tablet, like an iPad Mini or a small Android tablet with you.)

  13. Re:question: do you feel they're worth the money? by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I buy a top of the line iPhone every year and it gets used hard, for four years, by every member of my family. By the time four years are up and everyone has used it, it's largely obsolete in terms of performance due to operating system changes. At that point, I keep it around for another year mostly as a test platform for email connectivity on whatever the newest OS release it will run.

    So far, the hardware has held up. Only the 3GS had a problem with the up/down volume rocker button cover falling off, every other one has been fine other than the decline in battery capacity.

    As for value, that's highly dependent on your income and perception. I feel like I've gotten 4+ years of value out of it personally, but it's a minor expense relative to our income and about half of the cost is compensated by our employers, too. I work as a consultant, so it's my primary voice phone, supplies a good chunk of my internet access on the road, provides mapping and entertainment in the car, so I feel like I get a lot of overall value out of it.

  14. Re:Can I replace the radio? by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

    Europe has two things going for it here. The first is that they've been careful allocating frequencies, and the second is that they've told the carriers that they have to agree on common standards and interoperable equipment (with "personal mobility" - that is, SIM cards.) The phone companies came up with the GSM family of standards (GSM, UMTS, and now LTE) and it all pretty much just works.

    The US didn't do any of this, partially because of lobbying by a certain semi-conductor/wireless research company, and partially because they didn't understand what Europe was doing, so we ended up with multiple conflicting standards and rather a lot of different frequency bands to run them on.

    This means that we have two nationwide carriers who run GSM family networks, plus two that run a mix of IS-95/2000 networks, that are finally implementing LTE, but not the rest of the GSM standards. As LTE is still to a certain extent in flux (there's something like three different ways to do voice, for instance) and LTE isn't nationwide yet, nobody can sell a simple device that works anywhere in the US. It's needlessly expensive to support both cdmaOne family standards and GSM family, and the carriers are still buying new swathes of spectrum that need hardware support.

    Which sucks.

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  15. Re: Why No Brown Title Bar? by dothasmurfysmurf · · Score: 2

    Oops, replied further down the thread for some reason. The G3 and G4 were both first to market with lollipop and marshmallow respectively. My G4 has survived a drop into a full bathtub, and when it got dropped and screen shattered, after I got there replacement screen it was a matter of removing 11 Phillips screws from the back plane, pulling off the bad display unit, and unhooking both cameras and the display connector. I had the new one installed, put together, and running in 7 minutes without having to consult instructions... I wish all phones were this simple to work on! I used Samsung from galaxy 1-4, but unless they give me a compelling reason to drop them LG is my go to manufacturer now and for the foreseeable future.

  16. Re:Translation by SeaFox · · Score: 2

    LG is planning on creating some sort of open ecosystem for third-party hardware. What exactly that means is yet to be seen...

    It means it will be like Apple... anyone is free to develop products for the proprietary, non interoperable interface, you just have to pay LG a nice fee to do so.