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Many Surveys, About One In Five, May Contain Fraudulent Data (sciencemag.org)

sciencehabit writes: How often do people conducting surveys simply fabricate some or all of the data? Several high-profile cases of fraud over the past few years have shone a spotlight on that question, but the full scope of the problem has remained unknown. [Tuesday], at a meeting in Washington, D.C., a pair of well-known researchers presented a statistical test for detecting fabricated data in survey answers. When they applied it to more than 1000 public data sets from international surveys, a worrying picture emerged: About one in five of the surveys failed, indicating a high likelihood of fabricated data.

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  1. Gee, you don't suppose respondents lie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I take most surveys I answer calculated to confound the test as much as possible, on the assumption that anyone could be doing so; and thus, to accelerate the process is to bring it to the attention of the researchers faster. The problem is that it's an inherently flawed method.

  2. Self referential? by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    23.7 % of statistical analyses make up their statistics.

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  3. One in 5 surveys incompetently fraudulent by Diss+Champ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not that only 1 in 5 surveys may contain fraudulent data, it is that the fraud is only incompetent enough to be caught by this method in 1 in 5 surveys.

  4. I'm not actually surprised ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like it or not, a lot of public opinion polls are paid for by people who want to support a specific point.

    Public opinion polls these days are as much PR and marketing as anything else.

    Honestly, Pew makes money doing this stuff; honest player or not, they have a vested interest in keeping up the belief that their stuff is honest, unbiased, and accurate.

    But I'm entirely willing to believe opinion polls are carefully crafted, or sneakily tweaked, to arrive at the conclusions they've been commissioned to a arrive at.

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    1. Re:I'm not actually surprised ... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Right, like the Gartner Magic Quadrant shit that most C-suite people drool over.

      Or bond ratings agencies.

      I suspect most people, except the people who cite those things, have long since assumed they're full of shit and the conclusions are paid for.

      Why would you assume it's honest and objective information? Someone has to make money off it.

      And if you don't like that, start your own foundation or think tank, and have them publish stuff to your liking.

      Sorry, it's all PR and marketing. It sure as hell aint facts or accurate predictons.

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  5. May not be fraud - simply incompetence. by gurps_npc · · Score: 4, Informative
    There are a lot of ways you can screw with a study. For example, you get dramatically different answers by rephrasing the question.

    If you ask: "Do you believe that mothers should be able to legally murder their babies within 2 months of the creation of life?" you get a very different answer than if you ask "Do you believe that women should have the legal right to abortion when the fetus can be demonstrated to show no brain activity more significant than that of a snail."

    This might be intentional, or simple unconscious bias.

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  6. Re:only 1 in 5 fraudulent? by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Informative

    The rest are merely intentionally misleading. You can get just about any answer you want, without making up data, by carefully selecting your questions and your survey population.

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  7. Half the marketing departments I've seen by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Roughly half the marketing departments at companies I've worked for have used half-baked surveys to gather statistics so the company name and the statistic get repeated in the industry over and over again.

    This often happens like this: "At (industry conference) this year, let's pass out a survey asking whether or not someone has every heard of a coworker getting hacked by (whatever threat our product purports to mitigate). Survey goes out to already half-paranoid people walking by, and the entire marketing and sales department fills one out that says 'yes I have'. A week later a press release goes out that says "(company) surveyed (# of people) IT managers and other attendees at (conference) and found that (high percentage) had direct knowledge of a coworker getting hacked by (threat)." Very often this stuff gets picked up by the press, bloggers and even other competitors, and the essentially made-up stat gets repeated and repeated until some people even think its true.

    Examples:
    - http://www.tripwire.com/compan...
    - http://www.prnewswire.com/news...
    - https://www.voltage.com/breach...

  8. Re:97% Consensus by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, we thought that 1 in 5 sounded like a nice believable number. How dare you question it. We looked at at least three surveys to come up with this.

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