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Adblock Plus Comes (Somewhat) Clean About How Acceptable Ads Work (betanews.com)
Mark Wilson writes: The Acceptable Ads program from Adblock Plus has proven slightly controversial. The company behind the ad blocking tool, Eyeo, has already revealed a little about how it makes money from the program - despite the fact that no money changes hands in most whitelisting cases - and today it has opened up further about how is makes its money.
Whilst recognizing that people do want to block ads, Eyeo is also aware that sites do need to benefit from ad revenue - hence Acceptable Ads, non-intrusive ads that it is hoped are less irritating and therefore easier to stomach. But Eyeo itself also wants to make money. How does it decide which company to charge to Acceptable Ads whitelisting, and which to charge? If you're expecting full transparency, you might be disappointed, but we are given a glimpse into how the financial side of things works.
Whilst recognizing that people do want to block ads, Eyeo is also aware that sites do need to benefit from ad revenue - hence Acceptable Ads, non-intrusive ads that it is hoped are less irritating and therefore easier to stomach. But Eyeo itself also wants to make money. How does it decide which company to charge to Acceptable Ads whitelisting, and which to charge? If you're expecting full transparency, you might be disappointed, but we are given a glimpse into how the financial side of things works.
It's colored differently and has an 'ad' flag.... At any rate the "Acceptable Ad" thing just sounds too much like the kind of stuff Yelp is accused of, which sounds like what the Mafioso used to do... I know it's popular to hate on advertisers but I'm kinda with them on this. You know. Nice web site ya got heres. Be a shame if anything happened to it...
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Let's chat about this after ad revenue has dropped far enough for the advertising networks to fully understand how much our satisfaction is a factor in their success.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
There are a few new snippets of information, sure, but there's hardly full transparency; ... We are instead treated to a short blog post littered with links to other pages on the Adblock Plus site, forums pages, and so on.
TFA (as per quote above) is a vague blog post that attempts to describe another vague blog post. Most of TFA is spent admitting that there is very little content to talk about.
I do not charge for the site, I do not advertise to make money for my site, I have lots of folks visit and post on my site.
It's my hobby. I'm ok with paying a few hundred dollars a year for it.
Years back there was a proposal to make a new internet that was "better" and I was enthusiastic about it because I hoped that all of the people looking to monetize the internet would go to the new internet, and be banned from coming back to the old internet.
Sorry. I'm not on the web to make your site money. Share the information or block the information and I will go somewhere else.
_ _ _ Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!
I weep for the internet as it was before the first advertising appeared. (I was on it then, for more than a decade before Canter and Siegel), and the Eternal September.
"But content! You didn't have 20 pages of You'll Never Believe What Happened Next! Quality clickbait! You didn't have popunders and web bugs and profiling of your every move! How did you manage? That internet was useless compared to what we have today! You'll never get that kind of high quality content without ads!"
The internet: 1969-1993. RIP. You are missed.
If they won't open up, it makes no sense to use their product. I hope such a concept is not too difficult to comprehend.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Any entity that implements an acceptable advertising policy as is specified on the Adblock Plus web site can request to get added to the Adblock Plus white list. The caveat is that if you are a large commercial entity not only do you have to follow the acceptable adds policy, but you also have to pay for the privilege. Paying alone is not sufficient to get white listed if your a large company. Smaller companies and projects don't have to pay to get white listed- they merely need to comply with the acceptable adds policy and request to get white listed.
This is actually the free market at work here and a totally reason solution. There are some companies that may choose not to pay up and some may even block Adblock Plus users in turn. That is the choice of these web sites and it's my choice whether or not I want to utilize these sites on those terms. Adblock Plus gives me the choice to decline to utilize web sites with poor privacy, security, and add policies. I'll continue to decline to utilize sites that implement a policy of blocking Adblock Plus users rather than implement a reasonable adds policy.
I am also an advertiser on the Linux Mint web site. I own a small company that pays Linux Mint directly to have an advertisement on the site. I also use Adblock Plus. I wish Clem (lead developer) would implement the acceptable adds policy as 60% of the visitors don't see our advertisement. I *still* support Adblock's policy and have encouraged Clem numerous times to stop with the flashy advertising so that we can request to have the site white listed. Unfortunately due to one advertiser we lose 60% of the eyeballs visiting the site. I have recently cancelled our advertising for other reasons, but pointed out this issue, alongside a note saying we'd probably return and that the cancellation (many years we've advertised with them) had nothing to do with this. None-the-less I encouraged him to implement the policy.
If add-ons like AdBlock cause websites to setup paywalls or find other methods to make money, then so be it. I'm tired as fuck of seeing ads everywhere.
I will continue to block ads because I'm under no obligation to view them. The entire ad business model is hideously bad. I prefer paying for what I use. I don't use free Webmail, I pay for email. I also pay for other content. Free means I'm the product, not the customer. No thank you. This entitlement BS most Internet users expect is just that -- BS. No one is entitled to free content, free Webmail, free anything. People actually bitch about some Webmail providers not being unlimited, or not allow this or that. If you're not paying, you have no voice because you're not a customer, you're the product. There is always a tradeoff. In most cases, it's your privacy. Most people couldn't care less. I do. So, I block all ads whether I pay for content or not. I refuse to be a product, tracked, spied on, followed around the WWW so people can try and build some profile on me to see me crap I will never buy or even be remotely interested in.
How does it decide which company to charge to Acceptable Ads whitelisting, and which to charge?
If the owners don't fix errors in the summaries, how can we expect the editors to?
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
You claimed that you had written your final post on Slashdot. You claimed that you were leaving voluntarily. But now you're back posting again.
When you can't be taken at your word, why should anyone trust your program?
Adblock Plus; "Nice ad revenue model you got here. Be a shame if it got broke."
ABP is not, nor was it ever, the only ad blocker. Why do people still install it? I understand the inertia for existing installs, but who installs it today? It is as big a resource hog as a lot of the ads it blocks. I prefer uBlock origin, but I am sure there are others. Why ABP?
Seriously... If /. turns into a clickbait laden turd spinning baby killing place then I'll go elsewhere
...do just that, block ads, and be even better at doing so if it is named "AdBlock Plus". There is nothing wrong with offering the user the opportunity to view "acceptable" ads if they wish, but it should be the users choice to choose what is acceptable, not the applications.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
We're now getting into a war similar to the spam war. The advertisers are going to shout louder and louder. The technical experts are going to block harder and harder. We're already at the stage of having adblock-block-blockers. The advertisers will soon try to get laws to make these illegal, if they haven't already. This will get nasty for the normal users and cause a collapse similar to the collapse of News Net. We will be able to use the internet but new users will be stuck on particular closed sites like Facebook.
The path out of here needs someone independent of the advertisers to agree on criteria for safe, accetpable, reasonable advertising (no tracking, no popping up, no taking over the whole page, no active elements). It can't be done by people like the IAB or government advertising agencies who are in the pockets of the worst elements of the advertising industry. It won't work to completely ban advertising except, possibly, by having your teleco provide control it which is almost more scary.
Right now Eyeo's Acceptable Advertising program seems to be the only game in town. Google and the new ad replacing browser are the alternatives. It needs our support until something better comes along.
Browsers using what most everyone does in host-domain names do NOT bypass hosts. Windows only does on Windows update.
What is OLD is new & better by far vs. all comers -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
(... & you know it, hence your weak bs ridden reply!)
APK
P.S.=> You morons have reduced yourselves to telling outright LIES now? LMAO - thanks, you're doing me a WORLD OF GOOD & a favor doing so (especially on this website)... apk
For those who want to support the notion that pages "deserve" ad revenue to provide features, I propse the option to make it so that the page merely comes up with the alert "This page is ad-sponsored, would you like to go somewhere else?" I would always click yes. I remember the internet before ads, and you know... It managed not to suck. I'd rather just not have access to a page run by ads if I can't also block them.
I leave the Slashdot 'Disable Advertising' box unchecked. Becuase I am not bothered by the ads, and maybe now and then something might catch my eye, and I'll give it a click....supporting Slashdot as I do. Bills have to be paid after all. However, if the ads were in the face 'YOUR PC IS AT RISK FROM VIRUS' etc, then this is unacceptable..... This is what AdBlock is for, to get rid of these crappy fear-ware ads. I honestly don't mind seeing ads that don't get in my face.
This revenue allows us to hire employees to do the hard work providing that service demands. Software engineers have to maintain the whitelist, monitor it and provide customer service to each whitelisted site, whether payment is involved or not.
So they need to charge to pay for the manpower and infrastructure needed to be able to charge. A bit of a circular argument. The Easylist block list is over six times longer than the acceptable ads whitelist, yet is maintained by volunteers. I'm sure the community could maintain a whitelist if salespeople were no longer required.
If it doesn't block all the ads, it's not an ad blocker. It's just an ad filter. That's not what I want.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Can you pay a large sum to allow ads with viruses to get whitelisted?
The very term "acceptable ad" sounds a bit underhanded to me; or perhaps it is just that we have already lost all trust in the advertising industry and through them, in the companies that advertising in that way. They should rethink they whole ambition and the strategy that follows from it: the term should be "Wanted Ads": advertising that people actually want - like when you go online and search for "where can I buy X within 10 miles of Y?" That's when you want to find adverts, but only if they are genuinely matches for the parameters given.
Lucky Patcher uses a combination: hosts file and it can disable the advertising services in Google Play Services. You can do that also with tools like https://play.google.com/store/... , I used that to disable the analytics spying service too.
Glad to see my comment here hit a nerve and probably had some influence on this. Transparency is clearly the way to go, with the clarity that the company wants a monetizing strategy. We all want to make money, so it only makes sense to admit it and explain why and how, especially when you provide services that affect stuff so broad such as consumer rights.
There is no such thing as acceptable ads. The advertisement industry has ruined the whole thing, and I feel no pity whatsoever for them.
There used to be a time when a little bit of advertisement was acceptable. But once you've pissed all over your host, you can't come to the next party, even if you promise you won't do it again. Not anymore. Not after you've promised it twenty times, and twenty times pissed all over the host, his guests, the food and the neighbours dog.
There's a point where you are just not invited anymore, doesn't matter what you promise, how sincerely you promise or how much you really, really mean it this time.
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
after I spank you
Sounds kinky. I'm flattered but you're not my type. Are you able to address the fact that you say one thing and do another? Why should anyone trust your program when that is true?
How in shit did you get modded up for your bitchwhining? You can turn off acceptable ads with one checkbox which is respected by the addon. It's not broken, you just don't know how to use it.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Is this ad acceptable?
*grumpy cat macro*: NO
Determination made. That was easy.
I've been using ABP for years now on my machines and those I admin for friends/family/clients. It was, as we all know, a good solution for a number for reasons: Using less bandwidth, limiting infection vectors, and of course removing annoying ads.
However I've recently switched to UBlock because it simply runs better...and it does not have any sort of "acceptable whitelisting". Now I actually still pretty much trust ABP as I'd used it a fair amount since they have allowed what they deemed as acceptable ads. Not only could you opt-out (Yes you were auto opted-in however.) but some times when I did forget to opt-out I did not see anything egregious.
None the less with an alternative out there that is faster I think it is a good thing to give it support. As I've said about this topic before, I'll use my hosts file again if need be to block ads. I'll personally update it if that is what it comes to. The tears of ad execs do nothing but bring me joy as they rationalize why they have a right to my bandwidth and all of the other data they want to collect.
Really, I know what I'm doing...Ohhhh, look at the shiny buttons!
APK, the moron that still fails to understand HOSTs got broken years and years ago. Has been since Windows 7. Programs can bypass it at will with their own hardcoded entries.
Hey, Whipslash, I see you haven't sued the fuck out of Alexander P Kowalski for Harassment, Spam, etc. Do you need someone competent enough to handle that for you? Khyber has all the information you need to end him for good.
Hey, look, the fucking moron that claimed he was done psting here.
Since we can't trust you at your word, your HOSTs engine is very obviously not trustworthy either, you lying sack of shit.
Not like it matters beause every program coming out now days is hardcoded to bypass your HOSTs bullshit.
Meanwhile, they can't bypass my router block.
Dedicated hardware = 1. HOSTs = -1,000,000
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Adblock sold out long time ago. Abandon for uBlock Origin. So much more control, granularity, efficiency. Just clean uninterrupted content, the way the graybeards intended.
It doesn't block ads, it shouldn't advertise itself as an ad blocker. Why do people keep using ABP at all?
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
I like your host file system by Karmashock
APK is kinda right. I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
Actually, APK is totally right on this count. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context by chihowa
I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech
I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I support APK's stand on the hosts file by Trax3001BBS
APK
P.S.=> /. users make you "EAT YOUR WORDS" Khyber... apk
Can browser addons do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability (more efficiently too)?
1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Keep off dnsrequest logs
13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) EZ data control
16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently
ANSWER's NO on addons doing it well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively - not illogically inefficiently "Bolting on 'MoAr'".
(Ads on same site = rare: Advertisers don't trust webmaster click counts)
Addons = blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ via native browser methods: Untrue for hosts (part of IP stack).
APK
Ever wondered how many sites would disappear without advertising revenue to fund them (hosting and bandwidth has to be paid for somehow)?
Not really, no. Their bad business model is not my problem.
Or are you prepared to pay a subscription or fee for every website that you use?
I'm prepared to pay a subscription to every website that provides me adequate value to justify a subscription. I already do this for several. Most don't provide much value and I wouldn't mourn their loss. Very few provide enough value that I would willingly sacrifice my privacy and web browsing habits to an advertising company.
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.start64.com/index.p...
Gets data via 10 security community sites. Better on power/cpu/ram+ other IO resource use vs. local DNS servers + addons w/ less security issues vs. DNS + routers! Blocks all ads + known bad sites & less complex vs firewalls which compliment them (need layered filtering driver - hosts don't + they block far less used IP addresses, hosts block FAR more used host-domain names). Even Antivirus = too reactive. Hosts = proactive blocking infestation BEFORE you get it.
APK
P.S.=> Hosts do more for speed (hardcoded favs + adblocking), security (blocking known bad sites & dns issues avoiding DNS), reliability (vs. downed or dns poisoned dns), & anonymity (dns request logs) vs. ANY other "so-called -solution'" w/ what you already natively have. Unlike Adblock\UBlock\Ghostery it's not blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ + uses FAR LESS RESOURCES & does more (especially vs. DNS security issues)
... apk
Frankly, websites that exist solely because of advertising can die in a fire. Nothing of value will be lost.
You mean like Google? You think Google provides nothing of value to anyone? I think many would disagree with you. Their offerings might not be valuable to you specifically but clearly many others are ok with them as a company that exists solely because of advertising.
In principle some advertising is fine. The problem is that advertising companies can't seem to help themselves in abusing that relationship. Unfortunately the advertising companies have done so much damage that no one with a brain trusts them anymore, including myself.
Can browser addons do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability (more efficiently too)?
1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Keep off dnsrequest logs
13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) EZ data control
16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently
Answer's NO on addons doing it well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively - not illogically inefficiently "Bolting on 'MoAr'".
(Ads on same site = rare: Advertisers don't trust webmaster click counts)
Addons = blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ by native browser methods: Untrue for hosts (part of IP stack).
APK
Can the summary actually summarize what ABP does say, in addition to the commentary about how it still isn't transparent enough?
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.start64.com/index.p...
Gets data for more speed & security via 10 security community sites. Better on power/cpu/ram+ IO resource use vs. local DNS servers + addons w/ less security issues vs. DNS + routers. Blocks all ads + bad sites & less complex vs firewalls (they need layered filtering drivers - hosts don't + firewalls block far less used IP addresses, hosts block FAR more used host-domain names) complimenting 'em. Even Antivirus = reactive. Hosts = proactive, blocking infection BEFORE you get it.
APK
P.S.=> Hosts do more 4 speed (hardcoded favs + adblocks), security (blocking bad sites & dns security issues), reliability (vs. downed & poisoned dns), & anonymity (dns requestlogs) vs. other "so-called -solutions'" w/ what you natively have. Unlike Adblock\UBlock\Ghostery it's not blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ + uses FAR LESS RESOURCES & does more
... apk
Can browser addons do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability (more efficiently too)?
1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Keep off dnsrequest logs
13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) EZ data control
16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently
ANSWER's NO on addons doing it well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively - not illogically inefficiently "Bolting on 'MoAr'".
(Ads on same site = rare: Advertisers don't trust webmaster click counts)
Addons = blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ through native browser methods: Untrue for hosts (part of IP stack).
APK
Don't ask APK to live up to his word or be honest. Everyone knows that the first rule when dealing with a spammer is that spammers lie. APK is no exception. If he wanted to be honest then he would have made an account and used that to post instead of making a bunch of AC posts that try to pass themselves off as someone other than him.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.start64.com/index.p...
Gets data for more speed & security via 10 security community sites. Better on power/cpu/ram+ IO resource use vs. local DNS servers + addons w/ less security issues vs. DNS + routers. Blocks all ads + bad sites & less complex vs firewalls (they need layered filtering drivers - hosts don't + firewalls block far less used IP addresses, hosts block FAR more used host-domain names) complimenting 'em. Even Antivirus = reactive. Hosts = proactive, blocking infection BEFORE you get it.
APK
P.S.=> Hosts do more 4 speed (hardcoded favs + adblocks), security (blocking bad sites & dns security issues), reliability (vs. downed & poisoned dns), & anonymity (dns requestlogs) vs. other "so-called -solutions'" w/ what you natively have. Unlike Adblock\UBlock\Ghostery it's not blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ + uses FAR LESS RESOURCES & does more
... apk
Can browser addons do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability (more efficiently too)?
1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Keep off dnsrequest logs
13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) EZ data control
16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently
ANSWER's NO on addons doing it well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively - not illogically inefficiently "Bolting on 'MoAr'".
(Ads on same site = rare: Advertisers don't trust webmaster click counts)
Addons = blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ w/ native browser methods: Untrue for hosts (part of IP stack).
APK
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.start64.com/index.p...
Gets data for more speed & security via 10 security community sites. Better on power/cpu/ram+ IO resource use vs. local DNS servers + addons w/ less security issues vs. DNS + routers. Blocks all ads + bad sites & less complex vs firewalls (they need layered filtering drivers - hosts don't + firewalls block far less used IP addresses, hosts block FAR more used host-domain names) complimenting 'em. Even Antivirus = reactive. Hosts = proactive, blocking infection BEFORE you get it.
APK
P.S.=> Hosts do more 4 speed (hardcoded favs + adblocks), security (blocking bad sites & dns security issues), reliability (vs. downed & poisoned dns), & anonymity (dns requestlogs) vs. other "so-called -solutions'" w/ what you natively have. Unlike Adblock\UBlock\Ghostery it's not blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ + uses FAR LESS RESOURCES & does more
... apk
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.start64.com/index.p...
Gets data for more speed & security via 10 security community sites. Better on power/cpu/ram+ IO resource use vs. local DNS servers + addons w/ less security issues vs. DNS + routers. Blocks all ads + bad sites & less complex vs firewalls (they need layered filtering drivers - hosts don't + firewalls block far less used IP addresses, hosts block FAR more used host-domain names) complimenting 'em. Even Antivirus = reactive. Hosts = proactive, blocking infection BEFORE you get it.
APK
P.S.=> Hosts do more 4 speed (hardcoded favs + adblocks), security (blocking bad sites & dns security issues), reliability (vs. downed & poisoned dns), & anonymity (dns requestlogs) vs. other "so-called -solutions'" w/ what you natively have. Unlike Adblock\UBlock\Ghostery it's not blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ + uses FAR LESS RESOURCES & does more
... apk
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.start64.com/index.p...
Gets data for more speed & security via 10 security community sites. Better on power/cpu/ram+ IO resource use vs. local DNS servers + addons w/ less security issues vs. DNS + routers. Blocks all ads + bad sites & less complex vs firewalls (they need layered filtering drivers - hosts don't + firewalls block far less used IP addresses, hosts block FAR more used host-domain names) complimenting 'em. Even Antivirus = reactive. Hosts = proactive, blocking infection BEFORE you get it.
APK
P.S.=> Hosts do more 4 speed (hardcoded favs + adblocks), security (blocking bad sites & dns security issues), reliability (vs. downed & poisoned dns), & anonymity (dns requestlogs) vs. other "so-called -solutions'" w/ what you natively have. Unlike Adblock\UBlock\Ghostery it's not blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ + uses FAR LESS RESOURCES & does more
... apk
Can addons do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability (+ more efficiently)?
1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Avoid dnsrequest logs
13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcodes)
14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) EZ datacontrol
16.) Block ads more efficiently
Answer's NO on addons doing it well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively - not illogically inefficiently "Bolting on 'MoAr'".
(Ads on same site = rare: Advertisers don't trust webmaster click counts)
Addons = blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ by native browser methods: Untrue for hosts (part of IP stack).
APK
Hosts do MORE w/ less> vs. UBlock + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver)!
UBlock Origin NOW USES HOSTS - imitation = sincerest form of flattery - it's NO resolver & can't do DNS related protection, speedup, + reliability.
Ublock's inefficient:
Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself.
UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...
Proof-> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...
ClarityRay defeats it via native browser methods!
UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slow mode of operation (usermode = more messagepassing overhead vs. hosts in kernelmode).
APK
P.S.=> The "Superior Warrior" = APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
... apk
Can Ublock/Ghostery do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability (+ more efficiently)?
1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get past dns blocks
12.) Avoid dnsrequest logs
13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcodes)
14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) EZ datacontrol
16.) Block ads more efficiently
Answer's NO on addons doing it well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively - not illogically inefficiently "Bolting on 'MoAr'".
(Ads on same site = rare: Advertisers don't trust webmaster click counts)
Addons = blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ using native browser methods: Untrue for hosts (part of IP stack) & addons aren't as efficient.
APK
Learn to read: You're outnumbered by a 10++:1 ratio-> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
* You FAIL, chump... lol!
APK
P.S.=> And, just for good measure, per my subject-line above? Here's some more:
"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)
"APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)
Want more? I've got 'em... "Ask & ye SHALL receive"!
... apk
See subject: Others can't trust you chump - They trust fellow /.er's quoted liking my program praising it in a 10++:1 ratio vs. your offtopic bs here-> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... + here too-> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
* You FAIL, chump - "born to fail", that's just what you do & "how you roll", lol!
(QUESTION: What's it TASTE like, "EATING YOUR WORDS"? Like your FOOT in your MOUTH, rinsed down by the bitter taste of SELF-defeat?? Now, I know you'll evade answering that to NO END, lol... as usual!)
APK
P.S.=> This? Well, you just KNOW that I've just GOTTA say it, now don't you?? Ah, but of COURSE you do:
This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always is, vs. truly cowardly unidentifiable "ne'er-do-well" CHUMPS that wish they were me (like you), lol...
... apk
"... In sub-orbit by advertising & webmaster power, United States today launching sub-orbital platform w/ multi-warhead capacity" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... "purpose: To maintain balance of power..." - Computer addressing "the Mysterious Mr. 7", temporal agent, in StarTrek TOS episode #26
* Nothing out there in the way of DNS, routers, or least of ALL, inefficient redundant inferior sold out to advertisers crippled by default browser addons has as much "multi-warhead capacity" as APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit...
APK
P.S.=> Gotta love analogies using film - the 'common-ground' people understand (especially 'geeks' - they LOVE Sci-Fi & StarTrek!)... apk
See subject: ... eating your words? Man, it does NOT = Good nutrition -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
* You didn't tell us how BAD they tasted?
APK
P.S.=> I don't get it - why would anyone who's not an advertiser, webmaster profiting by them, inferior redunant inefficient souled-out competitor or malware maker/botnet herder give me guff for... thus, I know WHO & WHAT you are doing so - think others don't? Guess again... apk
Little denying it, you said it trolling here earlier starting the show for your "main feast" (lol) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
APK
P.S.=> Why do you avoid telling us all how it tasted? apk
Tell me something... does a hostfile block 3rd party content while visiting any site?
Chrome with flash disabled.
If you can write auto-playing annoying blinking ads without an extra exploit vector, go for it.
The only legit ad blocking imo is to protect your computer.
See subject: Obviously, yes (lol)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> Shouldn't speak in absolutes or for everyone like you did - now you have to eat those words... apk
Does ClarityRay block APK spam? If not, can you please add that feature?
Why does the word extortion come to mind? Not to the user but to advertisers.
Hosts are versatile & work better than other methods in many situations for more speed, security, reliability, + anonymity online. See subject: That's all you shills for inferior "so-called 'solutions'" can try now since you can't prove me wrong... & you KNOW it.
APK
P.S.=> It's hilarious seeing you all flail helplessly vs. facts & truth I put out on topic - it really is - priceless in fact! apk