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Laid-Off Disney IT Workers Decry Offshoring At Trump Rally (computerworld.com)

dcblogs writes: Two former Disney IT workers spoke at a Donald Trump campaign rally on Sunday, telling about the shock of having to train their foreign replacements. Speaking at the large rally in Madison, Ala. was Dena Moore, a former Disney IT worker who trained her foreign replacement, and said tech workers are reluctant to talk about the problem. IT workers "are afraid, they're in shock," she told the cheering crowd. "They're not coming forward because we have been taught all our lives to make do and keep going on. But you know what? This little old grandma is going to stand up for what's right. "The fact is that Americans are losing their jobs to foreigners," said Moore. "I believe Mr. Trump is for Americans first."

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  1. Mr Trump is for Mr Trump first. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whether that means offshoring jobs, or speaking against offshoring jobs as a means to the presidency, or hiring foreign workers to work on his construction projects ... Mr Trump will always do what's best for Mr Trump. If your interests align with his great, and if they don't he'll try to convince you that they do for as long as he needs your cooperation. The only reason Mr Trump is running for president is because he thinks he can use the position to advance his business concerns and make him richer than he already is. Why waste money buying off politicians when if you can get yourself into office it's free?

    1. Re:Mr Trump is for Mr Trump first. by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > Republican policies don't bring jobs/money/magic beans to the lower 80%.

      And Democrat presidents passed TPP and Nafta.

      Both parties will sell you out to cronie capitalism. But you keep blaming 1 party, shows how little you know, and why nothing ever changes.

  2. The Angry Mob by KermodeBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trump is the end result of lots of people feeling disenfranchised and angry over many, many years. To be fair, there's a lot to be angry about, but I don't think that Trump's supporters are really thinking this one through. People who are angry rarely do. They just want "something" to be done.

    Welcome to the second wave of "Hope and Change" as a political platform.

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    1. Re:The Angry Mob by KermodeBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's certainly already starting. He's recently been threatening to use libel laws to silence news organizations that publish inconvenient content about him.

      His tactics to win an argument include: Threats of lawsuits, flat out lies, insults, and talking over you so that you can't get your own point across.

      If this guy wins then sane political discourse in America is well and truly dead.

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    2. Re:The Angry Mob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, they're angry, but apparently not about the right things. They should be angry about the growing gap between rich and poor, and the fact that the average American hasn't got any better off in the last thirty years, but if they were angry about that, they wouldn't be supporting a billionaire. They should be angry that their political system is basically in the pockets of well-funded interest groups that fund political campaigns, but a billionaire that bought himself a shot at the presidency with his own personal mountain of cash is hardly going to be the man to implement restrictions on campaign finance. Instead, they're angry about Muslims and Mexicans, who really, really aren't the cause of Americas problems. They should be angry that political parties so blatantly put their own electoral success ahead of what is good for America.

      Oh well, I firmly believe that democracy means you deserve the leaders you get, so if Trump ends up in the white house, so be it.

    3. Re:The Angry Mob by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The irony is that Trump is the problem. He was born with a silver spoon up his arse, and fails often but has enough money to keep going. He thinks money means he can say and do whatever he likes without consequences, and only supports the 99% as far as he can manipulate them into enriching himself.

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    4. Re:The Angry Mob by Noah+Haders · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bernie sanders doesn't do it. Feel the bern!

    5. Re:The Angry Mob by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >It's good that Trump is threatening to use libel laws against them.

      Because it makes you feel warm and fuzzy? That's practically his campaign in a nutshell. "I'll sue!" The fact that he never does isn't really important, because people who like him for his propensity to blow hard about legal action have the collective attention span of a gnat.

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    6. Re:The Angry Mob by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The top 20%tile are paying 90% of the taxes,

      Even if that's true, what it means is that the plebes aren't being paid enough to pay taxes. If the richest among us want us to pay more of the taxes, they can pay us more wages.

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    7. Re: The Angry Mob by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Her policies are whatever her corporate masters say they are. But until the primaries are over, she'll pretend they're a watered-down version of Bernie Sanders' because his policies are the ones actual people actually want.

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  3. Trump vote by rfengr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Heed this: If Sanders is the nominee, I'll vote libertarian as always. If that witch is the nominee, I'll be voting for trump. I'm not alone, by far.

    1. Re:Trump vote by netlag1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um. If there is a tie, then they will work it out. The superdelegates are the way it's worked out. Frankly, in a tie, I would think it would be appropriate for the party to have a say in picking Clinton. I like Sanders, but he's really not a Democat anyway.

      He's really more of a Democrat than Hillary is.

    2. Re:Trump vote by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd might as well be voting for some third world dictator thug. At least Trump is not a criminal*. That's about what it boils down to.

      Given Trump's predilection for Mussolini quotes, his bromance with Putin, advocacy of violence, desire to gut the 1st amendment and love of eminent domain, I'd be careful what you wish for.

      *BTW Trump U cuts it awfully close to being an outright scam operation.

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    3. Re:Trump vote by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You are confused. The one who used eminent domain to evict the elderly is Trump, not Hillary. You seem to have drunk the cool-aid. Even Trump hinted darkly that "He would love to run against Hillary, if she is allowed to run...". She faced six hostile Republican congressmen, under oath, on live TV for 10 hours.

      No one, no politician, no white collar criminal, has ever faced that level of scrutiny.

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  4. Really? You think Trump gives a toss? by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do these Americans seriously think Trump gives a fuppenny tuck about American workers? I have absolutely no doubt that Trump employs in his companies whomsoever is (a) cheapest and (b) causes the least trouble. If he is now trying to get elected on an 'American jobs for real Americans' ticket then that represents a level of hypocrisy in him that even I thought impossible in a human being.

  5. Re:Yeah, good thinking. Pick Trump because... by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If slashdotters' "all about me" attitude is any representation of the attitude in the US, America is screwed. A country has to be able to make some sacrifices and work together. A nation of people who just look out for themselves is a nation that is headed for civil war.

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  6. Re:The kryptonite of slashdot groupthink by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, it only creates cognitive dissonance if you think like a moron. Thoughtful people understand that nobody is consistently wrong, any more than anyone is consistently right. The Nazis built the authobahn (a.k.a. "Reichsautobahn"), but I don't hear people arguing against superhighways because they were a Nazi idea.

    So it's a good thing that Trump brought up this issue; it'll force the other candidates to address it, or at least dance around it. But I doubt he really cares about it; he's too narcissistic and mercurial to care about anyone but himself for very long.

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  7. training your own h1b replacement... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    should be evidence enough that the employer is lying when they say they can't fill a position with an american and they should lose ***ALL*** of their h1bs, those here should be sent back home - not allowed to find a different employer to sponsor them, AND the employer should be prohibited from applying for more for at least five years.

  8. Re:The kryptonite of slashdot groupthink by Captain+Hook · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I never got why they would ask those being shafted to train their replacements

    It always surprised me as well, but from the other end.

    Rather than being surprised that the company would trust the training given to H1B by their existing staff, I'm surprised their legal departments let them do it given the pretty much the only legal precondition needed to use H1B is that you can't find the skill set in the local population.

    If you are having to use your local staff to training the people coming in, surely you have already proven the local population has the sort of skills need for the roles.

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