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New P2P Torrent Site 'Play' Has No Single Point of Failure (thestack.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Play, a new peer-to-peer (P2P) site for downloading torrents, is practically impossible to shut down and promises to be the latest technology to revolutionise online downloads. The platform has appeared recently across ZeroNet, a Budapest-based open source site which is looking to offer a home to decentralised platforms which employ Bitcoin-crypto and BitTorrent technologies. As no central server exists, every additional user is a further point of connection inside the network, helping to avoid potential failures. As the first torrent site to appear on the network, Play can be accessed directly through a ZeroNet URL (only available with the tool installed). The site serves magnetic links sourced from RARBG, with which users can download films, series and other media files, in varying qualities. While ZeroNet itself is not an illegal platform, Play is identical to any other P2P download site in that it could face legal challenges over violating copyright.
Instead, it has many points of failure! But in all seriousness, we'll see what it does in 6 months. Anything that seems too good to be true...
RARBG is the single point of failure then?
It can suffer from the "poisoned well".
But, but... they're going to use it for ILLEGAL things! The Debian CDs are just an excuse!
Bah. I'd like to know how much they earn posting here on Slashdot.
One dollar per post? Half a dollar? Poor souls.
. . .aka the infamous "Slashdot Effect" DDOS. Let's see how that works out (grin)
"Play is identical to any other P2P download site in that it could face legal challenges over violating copyright."
Torrent download sites do not host any copyrighted content and don't violate any copyright agreement. They were prosecuted for that in the past because hollywood enforcers do not care about the difference between hosting files and hosting links that connect you to other users who share the files with you, which is perfectly legal everywhere. Obviously laws or democratic procedures have no place in the fascist military-entertainment complex that is America who does not recognize any laws that are in the way of corporate interests, or even that different countries have different laws.
There are also public web proxies to view (and also post) without installing anything
More zeronet websites
Wouldn't Slashdot users running nodes make the whole thing stronger?
"While ZeroNet itself is not an illegal platform, Play is identical to any other P2P download site in that it could face legal challenges over violating copyright."
Isn't this also true of Youtube, that gets zillions of take-down notices every month? I guess we should now end every article about Google with "While Google itself is not an illegal platform, Youtube is a site that could face legal challenges over violating copyright."
P2P is a legitimate technology. There is no need to systematically add comments denigrating it every time it is mentioned.
It's called an ISP
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and think, see, American IT workers are complete assholes who band together and break the law at our expense. Why should we care what they think about H1-B workers?
That makes me feel old
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"The site serves magnetic links sourced from RARBG"
What does that mean?
Another slashvertisement, oh boy...
0net
As the first torrent site to appear on the network, Play can be accessed directly through a ZeroNet URL (only available with the tool installed).
"Only available with the tool installed"? OK, so the ZeroNet tool is installed, it's open source (good), multiple platforms (cool) and it uses bitcoin cryptography to, and I quote the ZeroNet website: "Your account is protected by same cryptography as your Bitcoin wallet".
Riiiiiiiiiiight. The same Bitcoin wallet that was cracked recently? Oh, and by the way, it only protects your IP address if you go through the Tor network. You mean, the same Tor network that was successfully attacked by researchers?
And this combination of two technologies is supposed to protect people? Really?
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I don't understand this claim. Now once a torrent is streaming there is no single point of failure by virtue of the P2P aspect. But for people to find a torrent node with their desired item there needs to be some sort of directory. Historically it has been the directories that get shutdown. So how does this solve that problem? You can't just say the nodes serve the directory can you? because it some point someone needs a definitive entry point or well known fixed set of points, so it can be found to bootstrap the process. If they are well known then can't they be shut down?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
The more people that use it, the faster, and more powerful it gets!!
It's powered by YOU when you use it!
0Net
YouTube is the #1 pirate site by far. Pretty vouch every video on there is breaking copyright laws.
I was thinking in terms of getting the RARBG tool needed for entry into the network. That's still likely a chokepoint.
We need something like http://popcorntime.io/ to appear, to it be well tested ^^
What I gather is that ZeroNet is a distributed file storage: If you want to "browse" a site on ZeroNet, you have to run a local proxy which participates in the P2P ZeroNet and presents the sites from a local HTTP server. Or you can use someone else's public proxy, but the principle is the same. Files from which the pages are constructed are identified by a cryptographic hash. The local or remote proxy retrieves these resources through the torrent protocol and then keeps seeding them. Sites are lists of hashes of files, signed with a private key. Addresses of sites are public keys. The Play site is a collection of files (images, html, etc.), so ZeroNet serves as the equivalent of a domain name system and web server. How do the movies get played? Are they also shared through ZeroNet or does the Play site just publish the magnet links which are then handed over to a separate torrent client?
Try reading fair use laws.
How about I2P support?
I'm imagining a web where many websites are available via both clearweb & I2P, or in this case clearweb+ZeroNet & I2P+ZeroNet.
Using bittorrent technologies adds decentralized content hosting.
Block chain technologies adds content hosting incentives (such as with filecoin), or as with ZeroNet, it adds control of content to the original author, or grant modify permissions as needed.
With the governments and other organizations having more and more power and freedoms, and individuals less, technologies such as these are needed.
Play is similar to any other internet site in that it could face legal challenges over violating copyright.
There, fixed that for you.
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Play is identical to any other P2P download site in that it could face legal challenges over violating copyright.
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FTA:
As no central server exists, every additional user is a further point of connection inside the network, helping to avoid potential failures. If one of the connections fails, this does not necessarily compromise the entire downloads platform.
So...the 'user' goes dark? I know, I know, the user's connection goes dark...but for some reason the phasing tickled the morbid elf in me, picturing users keeling over at their consoles while the network perseveres... :)
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Except that you just said it's not a download site.
And then there's the obvious solution: don't use it for violating copyright. Use it for other things. We need these kinds of tools anyway and need to stop getting our panties in a bunch every time someone asks themselves, "hey,could I use this to violate copyright?" The answer to that question is, "who the fuck cares?"
Question: "Hey, could I use this car for bank robbery getaways instead of just commuting?" Answer: "Who the fuck cares?"
Question: "Hey, could I use this bottle of bleach to kill myself instead of whitening my skid-marked underwear?" Answer: "Who the fuck cares?"
Question: "Hey, could I use this rifle for murdering people instead of plinking?" Answer: "Who the fuck cares?"
Question: "Hey, could I use this $20 bill to pay to see a movie in a theater instead of on a bar tab?" Answer: "Who the fuck cares?"
RARBG isn't a tool, it's just a regular torrent site that they are getting file hashes from. The tool you need to access the Play site is the ZeroNet software. I'm pretty sure GitHub can take a slashdotting, especially since the number of users on slashdot these days isn't what it once was.
... of course what I said above is also true for Microsoft.
Have they ever done anything about piracy? Isn't wild piracy something which keep/kept them being the undisputed #1 when it come to operating-systems? Had Microsoft just somehow banned me I would of course use something else, how is that good business for Microsoft? It make no sense at all.
Of course good (heavy and "uncrackable") DRM could had worked for Microsoft if they could also regionally lock down the pricing and usage somehow (by language?), I don't really know how because then they could get paid but still let poor people be able to afford their product, however without that good DRM would just mean that Microsoft wouldn't be very relevant in poor markets (if they also want to earn money in richer markets) and is that really what they want? (Sure localization by IP or whatever, though not very accurate, have people identify themselves with passports?)
sounds like it
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So what are they trying to get at here -- that it's like Akamai? Because this just sounds like marketing drivel.
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