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US Says North Korean Submarine Missing (cnn.com)

An anonymous reader writes: The North Korean regime lost contact with one of its submarines earlier this week, three U.S. officials familiar with the latest information told CNN. According to CNN, the U.S. military had been observing the submarine operate off North Korea's east coast when the vessel stopped, and U.S. spy satellites, aircraft and ships have been secretly watching for days as the North Korean navy searched for the missing sub. The U.S. is unsure if the missing vessel is adrift under the sea or whether it has sunk, the officials said, but believes it suffered some type of failure during an exercise. This comes after North Korea has threatened to use nuclear weapons at any time and turn its military posture to "pre-emptive attack" mode.

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  1. Kim Jong-un no doubt has a different story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can't wait to here it. Probably something about it being the worlds greatest stealth submarine that even NK can't see it.

    1. Re:Kim Jong-un no doubt has a different story by Deadstick · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's a picture with better perspective: https://www.rt.com/news/313141...
      I suspect that protuberance with the windows is an enclosed bridge for conning the boat in cold weather, and not part of the pressure hull...diesel boats have to spend a lot of time running on the surface.

  2. Re:It could be worse.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow. Really? Lost 500k people huh. You do know that they could have lost 0 people, if they hadn't tried taking over the entire peninsula and subjecting all of its people to poverty, misery, and repression. The 20/20 hindsight that we can and should use in this case teaches us that there was nothing right about violently instituting a communist regime in Korea.

    Many Koreans and Chinese gave their lives in an effort to ruins the lives of millions. It's a shame they only lost 500k . . . maybe had more died, their regime would have collapsed back in the 50s, and the Korean peninsula wouldn't be subject to the living hell that the North suffers every day.

  3. In other news . . . by user+no.+590291 · · Score: 5, Funny

    . . . a United States submarine has reported the loss of one MK 48 torpedo.

    1. Re:In other news . . . by user+no.+590291 · · Score: 3, Funny

      True--the torpedo probably cost more.

  4. It might be great if the USN rescued the crew by Streetlight · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the sub is really in serious trouble and the US Navy rescued the crew (and maybe took possession of the sub) it might be a pretty good PR coup. Treat the sub's sailors well - good food, some entertainment in SK to see how life is there, etc. - before repatriating them to the DPRK. Treat the sailors as we would expect our sailors to be treated in similar circumstances. Besides, it's the right thing to do.

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  5. Re:It could be worse.... by bjwest · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not sure if you've been following things lately, but her in the U.S., we're devolving into a dictatorship as well. So far, it's been government agencies becoming the dictators, but given the way we're going, I give us less than 50 years before we're an actual dictatorship, or a group of small dictatorships ruled over by our regional corporate dictators.

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  6. Re:It could be worse.... by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Factually speaking there has never been communism. Communism as implemented in Stalinism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and Maoism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., was purely branding when called communism, nothing more. As for environmentalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., seriously?!? As for the politics of North Korea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., so not communism either. Capitalism kills every single year of it's existence, including wars for profit and a speciality famine, in fact it is accepted that capitalism had its origin in slavery.

    Fact is no political system ever survives the psychology of psychopathy and that genetic cerebral defect will corrupt every possible political system over which the gain influence and or control. Capitalism of course can far more accurately be described as psychopathic capitalism as it does reflect the psychology of psychopathy expressed as a socio economic structure.

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  7. Re:It could be worse.... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is interesting. You clearly hold your views very strongly. I wonder if your views will change when presented with evidence to the contrary or if you will find a new way to rationalise your views.

    1. DDT was never banned as a method for controlling disease vectors and is still in use to keep malarial mosquitos suppressed. Here's an article about the treaty banning DDT

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Feel free to find the article text and verify that as of Annex B, Part 1, that DDT is in fact still allowed for malaria control.

    2. Widespread indiscriminant use of insecticides is a terrible idea because resistance to the insecticides devlops. And in fact resistance in mosquitos has developed. If you want to make sure it remains as potent as possible an insecticide for malaria control, about the best thing you can do is ban it for everything except malaria control. That way there is less opportunity for resistance to develop, and given that agriculture used far, far more DDT than disease control, it's agriculture that was responsible for the majority of the devlopment of DDT resistance.

    So there you have it, you're actually wrong about DDT on two counts.

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