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Your Data Footprint Is Affecting Your Life In Ways You Can't Even Imagine (fastcoexist.com)

An anonymous reader cites the following excerpts from a FastCoExist article: Innocently clicking on a link results in ad targeting that's hard to shake and our purchases quickly reveal more information than we intend, such as the infamous example of Target knowing a woman is pregnant before she's told her family -- and before she's purchased any baby products. [...] Predictions about you are deeply shaping your life in ways of which you are probably blissfully unaware. Predictions about you (and millions of other strangers) are starting to deeply shape your life. Your career, your love life, major decisions about your health and well-being, and even if you end up in jail, are now being governed in no small part by the digital bread crumbs you've left behind -- many of which you don't even know you've dropped in the first place.

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  1. Possible solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Only buy routine items online. For anything that requires a bit of discretion, buy it at a physical store with cash.

    1. Re:Possible solution by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Only buy routine items online. For anything that requires a bit of discretion, buy it at a physical store with cash.

      I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI and NSA start requiring retailers to log cash purchases on their systems.

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    2. Re:Possible solution by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      Time, Newsweek, the Lifesavers, and the second time bomb from the right.

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    3. Re:Possible solution by NatasRevol · · Score: 2

      Bank transfers that are $10k or greater are logged.

      Several transactions close to that are flagged as suspicious.

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    4. Re: Possible solution by slazzy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or do it the other way around buy lots of bizare and unrelated items, you can always sell them later at eBay. Let Amazon wonder how you can be a pregnant gay man parapalegic who buys a lot of shoes and bike pedals.

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    5. Re:Possible solution by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They can tell a lot about you by routine purchases, especially if they look for patterns of change. I've read about the Target case; it isn't just obvious things like buying prenatal vitamins and maternity clothes; a sudden switch in preference for unscented products is common with the hormonal changes pregnant women experience.

      The prediction doesn't have to be perfect to be uncannily accurate.

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    6. Re:Possible solution by Mattcelt · · Score: 2

      Facebook, Apple, and Google beg to differ. All three have facial recognition that can identify you reliably than most random human beings could. And that's to say nothing of governments.

      Do you know where all the cameras in the stores are these days? Did you catch the pinhole cameras at the registers? Or above the doorways in the motion sensors? And what about Meraki or other retail systems tracking your wifi, cellular, NFC, and bluetooth emitters and correlating that with facial data?

      There is no more privacy. And I don't even know where to begin to fight back.

    7. Re:Possible solution by JoeMerchant · · Score: 3, Informative

      That $10K limit was set a very long time ago, when $10K might have bought a house in the burbs. It keeps getting more intrusive as time goes on, but technology keeps making it easier to do the transaction checking and logging.

  2. These "ads" you speak of, "shaping my life" by phonewebcam · · Score: 2

    They appear where? Oh, wait, *that's* what the ABP icon in my toolbar is saying - its been there so long I'd kinda gotten used to it. I must have become ad-blocker blind, if such a convoluted concept exists.

    1. Re:These "ads" you speak of, "shaping my life" by Sumus+Semper+Una · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I thought something similar when I skimmed the headline. I mean, I don't bother using an adblocker, but I also ignore and don't click on banner ads. Then I decided to dig deeper and read the NY Times article in the "Target knowing a woman is pregnant" link. That was a very illuminating article and showed me just how clever companies have gotten about analyzing data and creating marketings strategies around the data.

      Companies like Target can now do intelligent marketing targeted towards you even if you block all banner ads. Hell, even if you haven't touched a computer in the last 5 years they can still find a way to market to you. Have you ever bought anything from a Target store? If you used a credit card, they have a way to uniquely identify who you are and what your shopping habits are at their stores. What's more, from other sources of publicly available data and purchase histories they can buy from other companies, they can fill in a lot of gaps and figure out much more about you and what you may be interested in buying than you might think.

      To those who have never been to a Target store, whenever you buy your items and check out, you're handed a few coupons along with your receipt. These coupons don't exist until your payment is being printed - they come out of a separate printer whose sole purpose is to print coupons tailored to the person who is buying goods. If you've used their store a few times with the same credit card, you start seeing a lot of coupons either for the items you have already bought in the past or for items in the same general category as items you've bought in the past. And that's even if you've never bought anything from them online or used any of their online offers.

      I was especially surprised to read that Target had apparently already considered that people don't like companies like Target knowing too much about them. So, if they do figure out, for example, that a woman is pregnant then they pepper in random coupons for unrelated things along with the baby-related coupons to make it seem like the baby-related coupons were just random chance coupons that anyone could have gotten.

      It's a very interesting age of data analysis we're entering into. Potentially dystopian and Orwellian? Sure. Potentially utopian and equalitarian? Sure, that too. As usual, I'll predict it ends up somewhere in-between.

  3. Surveillance Capitalism by Elf+M.+Sternberg · · Score: 2

    Adam Smith, the "father of economics" and one of the original theorists of capitalism, believed that capitalism worked because each participant in the marketplace had an approximately equal capacity with respect to other participants to understand the value which he was exchanging with others. Some people are more clever, or have better memories, or are simply more industrious, but on the whole we are all human beings, and our ability to know more than another has an upper bound.

    That's not true of machine learning. There is no upper bound. Under surveillance capitalism, there is no limit to what the large companies can know about what you know, can monitor what you do, and can predict what you want. And as long as we remain human, that upper bound on large, corporate control of human beings will only get greater.

  4. Re:Block all trackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Recommend disconnect over ghostery

    one is open source, other is owned by ad agency

  5. Re:Block all trackers by mujadaddy · · Score: 2

    Does that include...

    • janrain.com
    • rpxnow.com
    • ntv.io
    • scorecardresearch.com
    • taboola.com

    ...? I only ask because you only mentioned Google+Doubleclick.

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  6. Not just ads by ahziem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not just ads: financial companies track your transactions, and by default, they share your information with "partners." Scroll through your credit card usage, and you can quickly imagine how your trips to Starbucks can be used to build a valuable profile. To opt out, they make you mail a paper form because they hope you will be too lazy to find a stamp. Of course, Facebook tracks everything.

    1. Re:Not just ads by kheldan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course, Facebook tracks everything

      Reminder: You're a dope if you use Facebook, or any other 'social media' platform. It's like smoking: If you're doing it, you can't in any way claim you didn't know it was a bad idea, but you're doing it anyway. These are not survival traits.

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    2. Re:Not just ads by jratcliffe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course, Facebook tracks everything

      Reminder: You're a dope if you use Facebook, or any other 'social media' platform. It's like smoking: If you're doing it, you can't in any way claim you didn't know it was a bad idea, but you're doing it anyway. These are not survival traits.

      Reminder: the fact that you don't find the costs associated with using a service to be worth the benefits doesn't mean that people who do understand that tradeoff, and find it worthwhile, are "dope[s]."

    3. Re:Not just ads by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Or, we're just getting more of a "small town lifestyle" in the big cities now. One major complaint I've heard from small towners is that everybody knows your business... well, with data trails, that is true all over now, not just in Mayberry RFD sized communities.

  7. Way Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The huge difference is the global reach of the corporations and their infinite permanent memory. The old clerk may have seen you purchase a couple of items and may have put two and two together. But, they could never see what you were looking at everywhere you went in town, the next town, on vacation in Italy... They could never remember everything you bought from your babies conception to his college graduation and beyond.

    The scale, the permanency, the ease of access, the inability to threaten the clerk should they not mind their own business... It's a whole new ballgame and it sucks.

  8. Re:Scammers by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "And yet....we can't seem to track down and prosecute those scumbags who try to scam old people and other tech novices on the Internet."

    In fact, if the feds are unable to track down ransomware scammers, I submit that the whole surveillance problem is a mirage. If surveillance tech had the super-powers everyone imagines they have, that would be both a simple problem, and would be a way of making the public feel better about surveillance.

  9. Re:About that Target pregnancy thing by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I had a talk with a person a while ago about that scenario where I took the Devil's Advocate side of the discussion. Is it really such a horrible thing that Target knows before the family? The lady obviously knows, and it's her secret to tell, so what's the big deal with Target keeping the secret?

      I mean, before big data and big stores, the same clerk might have seen you buy the pregnancy test and then the next day see you buy prenatal vitamins. If it was a small town, even if it wasn't the same cashier, their might be enough gossip to connect the two and then they would know before pretty much anyone else. Before that, it might be your bank processing checks, or the credit card company, or whatever. That particular example wasn't super-secret stuff that only a big computer with big data could have figured out.

    Except Target didn't keep it a secret.

    You see, Target has done their market research. They found that the birth of child is the ideal time to shape shopping habits - if a husband and wife shopped at Target for a few basic essentials, then went elsewhere for clothes, groceries and other things before a birth, after a birth, they are highly suggestible to change their shopping habits. So Target wants to find those that are pregnant and send them coupons for essentials they may need with the hopes of attracting them to shop more stuff at Target - get more of their shopping dollars with a family who may be pressed for time and unable to do their usual shopping rounds.

    The problem was, the daughter was making those kind of purchases, and the father wondered why Target was sending her coupons for pregnancy products. Target's analytics found her profile was basically that of a pregnant woman. So the father confronted Target management asking them why they're sending pregnancy-related coupons to their daughter (who you know, is very virtuous and wouldn't have a child out of wedlock, etc. etc. etc).

    Said father later revealed their daughter was a teenage parent a couple of weeks later.

    Target didn't tell them, but she fit the profile, and the parents didn't know until Target basically revealed it to them.

  10. Re:About that Target pregnancy thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The lady obviously knows, and it's her secret to tell, so what's the big deal with Target keeping the secret?"

    The thing that bothers a lot of people isn't that target figured something out, it is that target demonstrably isn't "keeping" the secret -- they sent her pregnancy-related things that revealed the secret to her parents before she wanted them to (because fairly predictably, her parents were in the same house, and thus saw things that showed up in the mail for her).

    I don't mind starbucks knowing how much coffee I consume. I do very much mind when they sell that information to an insurance company that starts calculating my life insurance or health insurance rates. If someone is stalking me, I really don't want them to be able to buy from starbucks the information about which starbucks I use when (from which you can derive roughly where I work and my schedule).

    Lots of people browse for porn; it is fine if the provider keeps that info, but when they start selling to the local newspaper a list of people in your town organized by kink, that gets kind of disturbing. Profitable for the porn company perhaps, but most people find that sort of commercialization of data obnoxious.

    Advertisers are demonstrably tracking and sharing a lot of information that I didn't give them. When a social network that I don't have an account on starts recommending me as a "person you might know" to coworkers, that says that they've gathered information about me and my job that I never gave them, which they are now sharing with others. I really don't like that.

    You are correct that we've always had gossips around that might notice something about me and share it with others; that doesn't mean we liked them, or that we think that their behavior should be institutionalized in every corner of our lives.

  11. Re:Cash is no longer a guarantee of anonymity by BitterOak · · Score: 3, Informative

    Please cite as I am unaware that any county has figured out how to go fully cashless.

    Sweden is almost cashless now, and plans to be fully cashless in the next few years. There are others on the way, too.

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  12. Re:You know what disgusts me??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are more than welcome to cite evidence supporting the idea that there is massive voter fraud going on and that advanced voter verification techniques are necessary and effective in correcting the problem. Until then, I would just assume not hand over any more tax dollars for programs which provide no benefit.

  13. Private Matters by formfeed · · Score: 2

    True. That's one aspect. Privacy is always a balance between self and community. But what do you reveal, to whom, and who has the power to decide...
    Your point is made by Janna Malamud Smith, Private Matters: In Defense of the Personal Life

    That's the book PJ recommended when she stopped Groklaw, I picked it up because of that, and wasn't disappointed. Very readable, well argued, and a couple good thoughts on private vs. public

  14. And? by jandersen · · Score: 2

    I don't lend much credibility to this - it sounds far too ominous and sensationalist. I mean, how can I take serious a claim that "They" whoever they are, can "Deeply Affect" everybody's life, when I on a daily basis see how ineptly information is beings handled by nearly all players? These people don't seem able to find their own backsides with two hands and a guide dog. Apart from that - I assume we are talking (yet again) about the overhyped "Incredible Powers of Advertising"? People are perfectly able to ignore the crap; I have spam filters that work well, I have adblockers, noscript and others, and I have a recycling bin by my front door for printed adverts, which I discard out of hand, un-opened.

    I think this kind of stories are a relic of the sizties or seventies, when advertisers actually believed in their imaginings. The trend now is that they are struggling, not least because companies are losing faith in the value. Hopefully it will go completely away soon.