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Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up For Sale In Robotics Retreat (bloomberg.com)

An anonymous reader writes from an article on Bloomberg: Executives at Google parent Alphabet Inc., absorbed with making sure all the various companies under its corporate umbrella have plans to generate real revenue, concluded that Boston Dynamics isn't likely to produce a marketable product in the next few years and have put the unit up for sale, according to two people familiar with the company's plans. Possible acquirers include the Toyota Research Institute, a division of Toyota Motor Corp., and Amazon.com Inc., which makes robots for its fulfillment centers, according to one person. Google acquired Boston Dynamics in late 2013 as part of a spree of acquisitions in the field of robotics. Over the following year, the robot initiative, dubbed Replicant, was plagued by leadership changes, failures to collaborate between companies and an unsuccessful effort to recruit a new leader. Jonathan Rosenberg, an adviser to Alphabet Chief Executive Officer Larry Page and former Google senior vice president, said, "we as a startup of our size cannot spend 30-plus percent of our resources on things that take ten years," and that "there's some time frame that we need to be generating an amount of revenue that covers expenses and (that) needs to be a few years." In December, Google announced that Replicant had been folded into Google's advanced research group, Google X. In a private all-hands meeting around that time, Astro Teller, the head of Google X, told Replicant employees that if robotics aren't the practical solution to problems that Google was trying to solve, they would be reassigned to work on other things, according to a person who was at that meeting. Boston Dynamics, though, was never folded into Google X and was instead put up for sale.

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  1. dogs by Noah+Haders · · Score: 2

    I always feel bad when the people try to kick over the dog robots. I understand the point they're trying to make, but they seem to be doing it with too much glee.

    1. Re:dogs by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      I know. I feel the same way. Watching them push the robots around makes me want to yell at them to stop.

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    2. Re:dogs by kav2k · · Score: 1

      I guess that must be the reason.

      Google is trying to put some distance between robot-kicking and themselves in the wake of AI emergence happening in their datacenters.

    3. Re: dogs by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Funny you should mention that. Watching YouTube bids of their "Big Dog" really gave me the creeps; I'd be more inclined to try to nail one with L.A.W. rocket than simply push it over...

    4. Re:dogs by wardrich86 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Every push builds their calibration and balance. They're literally training it to become invincible. They should be pushing it with terror in their eyes knowing that one day they will be bowing to the robot overlords that they created.

    5. Re:dogs by spacepimp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Do you feel bad for shovels when people use them to dig? Your mind is pattern matching humanistic traits and applying them to a smarter shovel in a sense. I too feel bad. Thats just a neo cortex lingering issue.

    6. Re:dogs by Cyberpunk+Reality · · Score: 1

      I don't. I look at those things and my brain screams. Alien murderbot! Kill it now, while you still can!

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    7. Re:dogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not necessarily, applying physical violence to any productive object will always evoke a sense of waste at the very least. Using a shovel to dig isn't the same thing as abusing a shovel. If I saw someone kicking their shovel over, I'd think twice about approaching that person soon after for pleasant conversation. It is the action being judged, not the recipient of the action (which is only ever imaginary anyway)

    8. Re:dogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Pushing a robot over isn't physical violence. It's training. You are still misjudging the action based upon a mistaken perception.

      It's no more violent that running a bunch of data through a neural network.

    9. Re:dogs by matbury · · Score: 1

      30 years? I guess they couldn't wait for the rise of the robot dog machines to bite us back.

    10. Re:dogs by OhPlz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doesn't "running a bunch of data through a neural network" also define our own existence?

    11. Re:dogs by Verdatum · · Score: 2

      I understand how you would have that emotional response, but try and think about it this way: perhaps the glee doesn't come from being aggressive to the robot, perhaps it comes from discovering and experiencing first-hand how the robot can, by-design, completely withstand such a kick.

    12. Re:dogs by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      also, they're such troopers even in the face of adversity. You just want to root for them, you know?

  2. Hopefully, Tesla by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    This is their opportunity to get into the game and produce manufacturing equipment. In addition, BD is ideal for the moon and mars.

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    1. Re:Hopefully, Tesla by WarJolt · · Score: 3

      Amazon has the right idea. Thousands of cloud connected drones. Google needs to improve their cloud controlled car, but that's a little bit more difficult. Both companies need to focus more on the IoT aspect of robotics because that's where the money's at.

      Stay away from building the hardware. It's a money pit.

    2. Re:Hopefully, Tesla by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Yes. Thousands of cloud connected drones are what Google needs to make money.*


      * This is sarcasm.

    3. Re:Hopefully, Tesla by WarJolt · · Score: 1

      More IoT robots, more data, more money. Eventually you won't be able to shit without a robot assisting you wiping your ass and telling Google. Privacy is dead.

    4. Re:Hopefully, Tesla by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Right. Because Google has made tons of money off of IoT robots, not web advertising.

    5. Re:Hopefully, Tesla by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Yes. Thousands of cloud connected drones are what Google needs to make money.*

        * This is sarcasm.

      Well, if you add a screen and speaker, they can be used to show ads to people - flitting from person to person showing an ad for 30 seconds while they hover right in front of them, staying in the direct line of sight of said person.

    6. Re:Hopefully, Tesla by Lodlaiden · · Score: 1

      Will I still have to wash my hands?

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    7. Re:Hopefully, Tesla by KGIII · · Score: 2

      I really like robots. I really am openly biased about Boston Dynamics for stupid personal reasons. I really like the robots that I've seen that they've created.

      Alas, there's no way that I could do a damned thing to help this company along. It may be years out before they'd be profitable. I almost (I've not yet thought it through) hope they're picked up by one of the heavies like Boeing. I could even see them tucked into Oshkosh somewhere. I'd love to see DARPA just keep them researching but, if I recall correctly, they've always wanted to be independent(ish) and only went to outsiders 'cause that shit's expensive - so many they could just retain the IP and go work for DARPA. I don't know, I've not given it much thought.

      But that leads me to this...

      They are, and I'm hugely biased, really awesome. I mean they make my childhood dreams flash back to memory. They make me giddy, sort of. I'm enthralled with them in ways that are surely not healthy - I've watched every single video they've ever released, found them in documentaries, and really enjoyed watching them grow - I remember when they were just splitting from academia, that's how long I've followed them, since the beginning.

      It does give me a few ideas. It'd be neat if there was a way that group-funding could generate recurring revenue large enough to keep them afloat - with no real necessity to generate profit. It'd be neat if a group of people got together to fund stuff like this - on a larger scale. There are already some programs to do this.

      It'll make me sad to see them building assembly robots. Those robots, the ones that they've made, shouldn't be in factories. They should be out giving bad people nightmares. They should be stomping in and out of battles to rescue wounded, bring gear, and maybe even stand up with hidden mini-guns embedded in its chest and lay waste to an approaching enemy's armored personnel carrier. They should be leaping from peak to peak in a destroyed urban landscape like a mountain goat does atop a precarious precipice perch. They should not be loading boxes and moving them around a factory.

      Yeah, I'm kind of, probably, sort of not the least biased person here. Even if I could do anything to help something out at that scale, I'd not touch it as an investment. There's no way I could be objective enough to do that. Biased or not, I'd hate to see 'em go.

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    8. Re: Hopefully, Tesla by WarJolt · · Score: 1

      The robot will wash your hands for you.

  3. Startup? LOL by waspleg · · Score: 0, Offtopic

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    1. Re:Startup? LOL by ADRA · · Score: 1

      Google is many things, many good things, but they're NOT a startup... I heard the same thing.

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    2. Re:Startup? LOL by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      They're only 17 years old; not even adult yet.

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    3. Re:Startup? LOL by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      That was pretty confusing, so I went and read through the article. It sounds like Rosenberg was specifically referring to Replicant / Boston Dynamics when he said that. Although, even then, it comes across as a bit of Google/Alphabet double-speak...

      - Presto, you're a startup!
      - What, you're not producing short-term revenue for Google/Alphabet?
      - Presto, we're selling you off!

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    4. Re:Startup? LOL by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 2

      In other words, the shareholders have spoken.

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    5. Re:Startup? LOL by KGIII · · Score: 1

      In internet years (not entirely unlike dog years including the accelerated years at the start) that's a veritable ancient one - past even grandfather stage and well into empire range. There are not a whole lot of internet companies that have lasted as long as Google has. I can only think of one search company that exists now as it did when Google came out. That company is DMOZ and, aside from SEO companies, I'm not sure who even uses it anymore. I don't think I've been to DMOS in the past 10 years.

      Lemme look...

      Holy shit. Scratch that. LOL They're in a "partnership with Aol" which is, I guess, AOL.

      Oh, I think I just broke the internet with math. Sorry. I think we can safely say that even DMOZ is dead. First, they're partnered with AOL who seems to have changed their name's capitalization. More importantly, they've got over 90k "editors" and about 4m sites. They've got about 1m categories. That puts 4 sites in the average category. Worse, each editor has seemed to add only about 43 sites to the index.

      I think we can conclude that DMOZ is somehow both dead and alive but the alive is only technical and they're also technically useless. Some 303 of the DMOZ sites are from Slashdot. I have no idea how or why there are 303 as they're individually added. I should think there would only be one. That there are 303 of them makes me think that the 43 number above is mostly meaningless.

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    6. Re:Startup? LOL by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      43... don't you see how close DMOZ is to being the answer to life the universe and everything?

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    7. Re:Startup? LOL by KGIII · · Score: 1

      If you've noticed my signature and seen a number of my comments when people ask me nonsensical questions that can be answered with a number then you'd be silly to think I didn't notice. ;-) In fact, I'd almost commented about it but I couldn't think of any way to make it fitting.

      Oh! Hah... Thankfully preview saves the day. I've found a fit.

      "And, the number 43 is significant as well. It shows that DMOZ also missed the answer. Close, but no cigar."

      That's the best I can do to fit it in there. DMOZ... Man, I remember trying so hard to get in there. I had some jackass offer to sell me something. They (gender unknown) were willing to... Not verbatim but close to: "I'm pretty busy, I've got some work to do this weekend. I kind of need the money. I'll be making ____. If you want, I can skip my weekend job and review your site quicker." It was something like that - this was way back in ca. 2000(ish) IIRC. In between 2000 and 2003. I want to guess that today was the first time I've been back since then. I wasn't going to include that in my earlier post because it has been a long time and I've not retained the proof.

      But, more to the point, I can't really think of a whole lot of internet businesses that have stuck it out as long as Google. There are a few. AOL, Yahoo, Slashdot, and things like that. Only a few of those are still in their original core business. I guess AOL still offers ISP service but Yahoo doesn't have their curated listing and hasn't for a very long time. Slashdot is still Slashdot. Usenet still runs but it's not a business, it's a service.

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  4. Quelle surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Advertising company can't find real-world applications for large autonomous robots. Companies with actual R&D vision sought as buyers.

    Google is falling apart at the seams.

    1. Re:Quelle surprise by Chas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah. I didn't get that either.

      You have a division that supposedly has no revenue generation prospects.

      But you're going to sell it? Who's going to buy something like that?

      That's like selling someone a flat paddle of wood and calling it a hairbrush.

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    2. Re: Quelle surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robotic orcas

    3. Re:Quelle surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your hairbrush idea intrigues me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

    4. Re:Quelle surprise by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Informative

      The robots they've built are really quite nice looking. If you haven't seen the video, you should check it out.

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    5. Re:Quelle surprise by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      That's like selling someone a flat paddle of wood and calling it a hairbrush.

      "It's actually a Scandinavian-style artisan 'nullen-broosh'. This found-art sculptor/DJ I know down at the raw vegan co-op turned me onto it. It's so much better for your hair, and it never develops unsightly tangles like old-fashioned brushes."

    6. Re:Quelle surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People are really mean to it!

    7. Re:Quelle surprise by Kjella · · Score: 1

      No company sells the big money makers, if you want to sell something buyers want reasons. This is not like eBay where "I don't need it anymore" counts as a plausible reason, well sometimes you do get the fluff about strategic realignment and such but it's a weak excuse. What you don't want to say is that the business runs poor or the technology is bad. That it's taking too long is actually not that bad, you get potential buyers who:

      a) Think they can get it cheap from a company with ADD and take it to maturity. IBM for example would be a company that likes to run the long game.
      b) Think that they can bring it to market faster, because they got ideas for quick wins that Google missed. Like back to the military.
      c) Think their R&D can speed up the buyer's projects which may be much closer to maturity. It's not like Google is the only game in town with robotics projects.

      At any rate, I'm guessing Google scooped them up mostly for the sensor/vision/navigation technology not the actual robotics. I'm sure they were primarily looking for things to speed up their autonomous car, which could become a massive industry and where the first company get a road-certified AI might get a huge lead on the competition. I'm guessing they either got what they wanted or didn't find what they wanted, so out they go again.

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    8. Re: Quelle surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are looking too closely for proof that they were smart to buy this company. The truth is that they were stupid enough to buy this company.

    9. Re:Quelle surprise by mattack2 · · Score: 1
  5. BD had a product - Google effed them by dyslexicbunny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The impression I had was that Big Dog was their big product. Google bought them and killed the program cause they don't do defense work. I thought the Army saying Big Dog didn't meet noise requirements was something that allowed everyone to save face.

    Maybe Google shouldn't have bought a robotics company that was primarily defense funded...

    1. Re:BD had a product - Google effed them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The impression I had was that Big Dog was their big product. Google bought them and killed the program cause they don't do defense work. I thought the Army saying Big Dog didn't meet noise requirements was something that allowed everyone to save face.

      Maybe Google shouldn't have bought a robotics company that was primarily defense funded...

      It really does seem that humanoid robotics is going to be primarily defense funded and Boston Dynamics was going to have to be flexible about weaponizing their robots. Counter-insurgency ops... knocking down (opening doors) and walking inside seems the obvious use case for humanoid robotics since those environments are made for humans and aerial drones won't do as well if there are doors. Where booby traps or going around a corner and getting shot at point blank range are big risks and you want the robot to trigger the booby trap or be able to locate hostiles and civilians before going in guns blazing.

    2. Re:BD had a product - Google effed them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The impression I had was that Big Dog was their big product. Google bought them and killed the program cause they don't do defense work. I thought the Army saying Big Dog didn't meet noise requirements was something that allowed everyone to save face.

      Maybe Google shouldn't have bought a robotics company that was primarily defense funded...

      Or maybe they *did* buy a defense company and closed it down because it fit the politics of their founders...
      If google is good at anything, it's buying startup companies and shutting them down...

    3. Re:BD had a product - Google effed them by dj245 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The impression I had was that Big Dog was their big product. Google bought them and killed the program cause they don't do defense work. I thought the Army saying Big Dog didn't meet noise requirements was something that allowed everyone to save face.

      Maybe Google shouldn't have bought a robotics company that was primarily defense funded...

      I read somewhere that soldiers hated Big Dog because of the noise and limited use cases, and that soldiers preferred wheeled vehicles that they could ride in. You could probably ride on Big Dog and similar legged robots, but it wouldn't be very comfortable.

      Just something I read on the internet but it makes sense. Getting rid of the group seems a bit odd though. Maybe Google is thinking that when humanoid robots are finally "ready" as a consumer product, they can just buy a company and get back in the game. Or maybe they feel that Boston Dynamics costs too much and can't compete in the free market. Their robots did lose the Darpa Robot Challenge to research universities, after all.

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    4. Re:BD had a product - Google effed them by robi5 · · Score: 1

      > You could probably ride on Big Dog and similar legged robots, but it wouldn't be very comfortable.

      It would beat the riding experience compared to that of a wheeled vehicle on the type of surfaces it was designed for. And people riding Big Dogs would make cuter videos than people kicking them.

    5. Re:BD had a product - Google effed them by dyslexicbunny · · Score: 1

      Big Dog probably could have been repurposed if Google really didn't want them to do military stuff.

      I could imagine that it could be quite useful in disaster recovery to move supplies - either in places where roads are still littered with debris or regions that don't have as much road infrastructure. Any sort of surveying in rough terrain that requires hauling samples back. Maybe on construction sites to haul stuff around vs wheelbarrows?

      I was unaware they lost a DARPA Robot Challenge though to research universities.

  6. "Boston Dynamics" by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    The first thing I thought when I read that was "I didn't know Google owned a sports team" - thought it was a WNBA team or something.

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    1. Re:"Boston Dynamics" by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      I thought it was dynamically-generated Boston cream doughnuts.

    2. Re:"Boston Dynamics" by OhPlz · · Score: 1

      There haven't been any notable tech failures in Silicon Valley?

    3. Re:"Boston Dynamics" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course there have. You know what there haven't been any out of Boston?

      Successes.

      Any successful company "from Boston" only becomes successful once it leaves.

  7. Then you shouldn't be in AI by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    "we as a startup of our size cannot spend 30-plus percent of our resources on things that take ten years," and that "there's some time frame that we need to be generating an amount of revenue that covers expenses and (that) needs to be a few years."

    This is what the onset of an AI Winter looks like.

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    1. Re:Then you shouldn't be in AI by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I thought AI Winter was the time when all remaining humans were cowering in Antartica trying to avoid the killer robot dogs scouring the planet of humans.

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    2. Re:Then you shouldn't be in AI by phantomfive · · Score: 1
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  8. Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe Alphabet won't wind up changing its name to Skynet now that it's spinning off the terrifying robot division.

  9. Too much money by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    This is what happens when a company has too much money and has delusions of grandeur. All the execs start buying stuff without having a clue what they are going to do with it.

    1. Re:Too much money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This bit is a bit odd.

      "we as a startup of our size cannot spend 30-plus percent of our resources on things that take ten years,"

      Do not really consider them a startup. Not for how long they have been around and the rev they are making.

    2. Re:Too much money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By "all the execs" you mean "Andy Rubin". He actually had a plan, but left the company. So I think you got it quite wrong.

  10. Intellectual Property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google bought Motorola, took the patents that they wanted, and sold the rest to Lenovo a few years later.

    It's probably the same deal with Boston Dynamics.

    1. Re: Intellectual Property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They bought Motorola without a f****** clue what to do with it and eventually sold it. It's definitely the same deal here

    2. Re:Intellectual Property? by bangular · · Score: 2

      I live in South Florida and know a few ex-Motorola employees. They don't have a very nice opinion of Google...

    3. Re:Intellectual Property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google could not make the Moto phones work. Lenova is making them work. IBM could not make personal computers work. Lenova bought them and made PC's work again. Now google fucked up Boston dynamics in the same way they fucked up Motorola. Maybe instead of buying other companies, they should instead buy the management of Lenova and have them run google.

  11. Boston Dynamics? by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 2

    And here I was hoping for them to really take off under Google's tutelage to the point where they could be renamed Massive Dynamic.

    1. Re: Boston Dynamics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly what tutelage is that? How to piss away billions with nothing to show for it?

  12. Cut out the Human man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When I say the latest Boston Dynamics Atlas video, I joked that the robot which picked up boxed would eventually replace warehouse workers.
    Now, as soon as Google decides to put Boston Dynamics on the selling block, Amazon is already interested.

    So now Amazon will have drone delivery robots, android factory workers, and i can imagine there could be deliveries via self-driving cars.

  13. A startup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it's safe to say Google et al are no longer startups

  14. If I were a google investor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd be screaming for them to return cash, instead of light it on fire. What is wrong with returning money to investors if you have a highly profitable, core business whose success you are unlikely to duplicate? Pure vanity on the adolescents running the company.

    1. Re:If I were a google investor by moosehooey · · Score: 1

      I own only total-market index funds, so if something benefits the whole economy, it is good for me. So I think Google should keep going with the fundamental research.

    2. Re:If I were a google investor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd be screaming for them to return cash, instead of light it on fire. What is wrong with returning money to investors if you have a highly profitable, core business whose success you are unlikely to duplicate? Pure vanity on the adolescents running the company.

      Because of the gazillions of dollars that Google makes from advertising, they can spend buttloads of money on all sorts of things with no regard for their potential success or profitability.

      Although this could eventually, in theory, lead to some great invention, in reality Google has a become a company that mostly behaves like a spoiled rich kid with an unlimited allowance -- buying things on a whim and then quickly discarding them when the fun has worn off. With no regard for the consequences -- such as all the people who used to work for that company you bought and who were trying to earn a living.

  15. Aw man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I was hoping that they would put Alpha Go into one of those robots and bring about the downfall of humanity.

    Google is no fun.

    1. Re:Aw man by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Sadly, the market for Go-playing dogs is currently non-existent.

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  16. Fembots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was where the money is. Fembots with a penchant for evil even more so!

  17. Adnvaced Research != 2 years by flink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If your timeline for generating revenue is "a few years", then you should not be in the business of doing advanced research. You're just going to be disappointed.

    1. Re:Adnvaced Research != 2 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That quote made no sense. Self-driving cars are a 10-year-out type of effort. For that matter in most communities where they are installing Google Fiber, it is a 10 year effort to actually get more than a few neighborhoods connected.

    2. Re:Adnvaced Research != 2 years by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

      The quote made PERFECT sense. The stated reason for the sale was that a commercial product was not likely to be created in the next few years and hence they need to divest themselves of the asset under the new model. Given your timelines this could mean their self driving cars are also inline for the chopping block. advanced research is always a long term investment and something you need to do a lot of if that is your thing as many/most of this research doesn't end in profit. A Corporate outlook that requires products from the research in short term is incompatable with that type of research.

    3. Re:Adnvaced Research != 2 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think Boston Dynamics even has a plan to be profitable, no matter the timeline.

    4. Re:Adnvaced Research != 2 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the point is that if they knew the timeline was a few years, why on earth did they buy them in the first place? Robotics isn't like software. There's hardware involved, and development and prototypes and iterations take orders of magnitude longer to work through.

    5. Re:Adnvaced Research != 2 years by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

      Boston Dynamics has been founded in 1992.
      If your definition of "a few years" is a quarter of a century, well, err, can I join your vampire coven please?

  18. Why is google doing autonomous cars then? by tekrat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's a field where you're spending a ton of dough, and you won't have a product for 10 years. At least, that's how long it's going to take for the adoption and legalization of autonomous vehicles -- hey google -- when a person with no driver's license can step into a taxi that has no driver, let me know.

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    1. Re:Why is google doing autonomous cars then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a good question. The only reason i could find for Google originally buying Boston Dynamics was that they wanted to get into the real world like with their self driving car project. Otherwise Google is such a bad match, and i guess that was proven here.

      Anyway, the more Google keeps screwing up and being just an ad company, the more i hate using their shit. Their only somewhat succesful products/services are search and ads and maybe some server crap i don't know anything about and maybe chrome browser. Someone might call android a success, because it's used a lot, but it's a failure for being insecure and unupdatable.

    2. Re:Why is google doing autonomous cars then? by Lodlaiden · · Score: 1

      Forget the taxi. I want to ride a steam punk robo-horse to work. How more hipster could that be?

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    3. Re:Why is google doing autonomous cars then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10 years? Let Me Google that for you...

      In 2012 Google founder Sergey Brin stated that Google Self-Driving car will be available for the general public in 2017, and in 2014 this schedule was updated by project director Chris Urmson to indicate a possible release from 2017 to 2020.

    4. Re:Why is google doing autonomous cars then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Autonomous cars have a huge impact in that everyone uses a car, but few people need a robot that can walk and handle 10 pound packages. Also, Google already has tons of infrastructure backing the robot cars like Google maps and Search.

    5. Re:Why is google doing autonomous cars then? by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

      I was thinking about when I read a recent story about BMW getting into driverless car research.
      I bet a lot of existing car companies, rather than start their research programs behind, having to each collect their own data, would jump at the opportunity to license the sensors, software, road data from Google while having them share the blame when something bad happens.
      And Google wouldn't have to spend any money on getting into manufacturing.

  19. Never sell to Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Friends don't let friends get bought by Google. No matter how much they offer you.

    They will take your product, shit on it, market it in ways that will make people hate you, then kill / sell your product like a used condom.

    EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

    I cannot think of any company Google have acquired that they haven't shit on.
    They are literally worse than Microsoft these days.

    1. Re:Never sell to Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tim?
      is that you?

  20. Google's brain by Etherwalk · · Score: 1

    The reason for this selling decision is probably that Google brain felt the same way.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  21. robotics projected bad PR by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article hints at other reasons. The latest youtube boston dynamics video showing the robot doing human work, was not only impressive, it was frightening. Not that we don't know that it is going to happen (not only in transportation, or manufacturing but also in service, consulting, transportation, delivery, military, health care or teaching), it was scary to see a bot doing things so well, to walk around, do errands. For a company, to be associated or identified with a job eliminator, this is a PR disaster in the long term. Its more subtle in AI or other domains of automation, where we don't see it. And then the article mentions also the lack of short term profitable products and leadership problems. But its interesting to see how non-technical factors start to matter more and more. But as mentioned before, the most important asset which google probably got from the company is the know-how, the top notch engineering, the human potential which can do be used also in non-robotic things. But whoever buys the company, the technology will continue change the future. Amazon is interested. Imagine all the packing and delivery work done by such droids. Maybe they should dress them as minions to make it more acceptable ...

    1. Re:robotics projected bad PR by aberglas · · Score: 1

      +1, good insight.

      But I think you are wrong. The real reason is that Google is now run by MBAs instead of engineers or visionaries, and they really did just calculate the Net Present Value of the research.

      Google has so much cash it is obvious that it should throw a couple of billion at BD just to keep a hand in the field. In twenty years robots are going to be huge. Probably not the humanoid ones, but just intelligent machines doing many ordinary jobs. It takes time to get into that field. And lots of nasty patents will be being generated in the short term that will entrench the old players.

  22. but ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    But ... but ... robots! Google! I for one welcoming our new overlords! How can this be?

  23. It never really fit the google model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BD was a defense company, and was doing a lot of SBIR (small business) and DARPA work before google stepped in. I was surprised when Google bought them, and I'm not at all surprised by this. They didn't sell robots; they sold research. A more likely acquirer would be boeing or lockheed martin or maybe another large defense contractor with a need to grow through acquisition. Anyone with an eye toward the consumer market; even a industrial market like amazon, is not likely going to benefit from them.

  24. This is great news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was pretty unhappy that google bought them in the first place as they're not exactly known for long term complicated projects (generally).

    I look forward to purchasing a robot that will go around my house and water the plants every day with ZERO setup or config to do. There, how about that as a project idea that has less of a chance of breakdown-by-requirements.

    Anyways cheers Boston Dynamics. I look forward to your future.

    1. Re:This is great news by q4Fry · · Score: 1

      I was super irritated when Google first bought it, and I'm hoping BD survives being dropped. Can it buy itself back? Would that work out to a sustainable company?