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Google Puts Boston Dynamics Up For Sale In Robotics Retreat (bloomberg.com)

An anonymous reader writes from an article on Bloomberg: Executives at Google parent Alphabet Inc., absorbed with making sure all the various companies under its corporate umbrella have plans to generate real revenue, concluded that Boston Dynamics isn't likely to produce a marketable product in the next few years and have put the unit up for sale, according to two people familiar with the company's plans. Possible acquirers include the Toyota Research Institute, a division of Toyota Motor Corp., and Amazon.com Inc., which makes robots for its fulfillment centers, according to one person. Google acquired Boston Dynamics in late 2013 as part of a spree of acquisitions in the field of robotics. Over the following year, the robot initiative, dubbed Replicant, was plagued by leadership changes, failures to collaborate between companies and an unsuccessful effort to recruit a new leader. Jonathan Rosenberg, an adviser to Alphabet Chief Executive Officer Larry Page and former Google senior vice president, said, "we as a startup of our size cannot spend 30-plus percent of our resources on things that take ten years," and that "there's some time frame that we need to be generating an amount of revenue that covers expenses and (that) needs to be a few years." In December, Google announced that Replicant had been folded into Google's advanced research group, Google X. In a private all-hands meeting around that time, Astro Teller, the head of Google X, told Replicant employees that if robotics aren't the practical solution to problems that Google was trying to solve, they would be reassigned to work on other things, according to a person who was at that meeting. Boston Dynamics, though, was never folded into Google X and was instead put up for sale.

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  1. Re:Quelle surprise by Chas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah. I didn't get that either.

    You have a division that supposedly has no revenue generation prospects.

    But you're going to sell it? Who's going to buy something like that?

    That's like selling someone a flat paddle of wood and calling it a hairbrush.

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  2. BD had a product - Google effed them by dyslexicbunny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The impression I had was that Big Dog was their big product. Google bought them and killed the program cause they don't do defense work. I thought the Army saying Big Dog didn't meet noise requirements was something that allowed everyone to save face.

    Maybe Google shouldn't have bought a robotics company that was primarily defense funded...

    1. Re:BD had a product - Google effed them by dj245 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The impression I had was that Big Dog was their big product. Google bought them and killed the program cause they don't do defense work. I thought the Army saying Big Dog didn't meet noise requirements was something that allowed everyone to save face.

      Maybe Google shouldn't have bought a robotics company that was primarily defense funded...

      I read somewhere that soldiers hated Big Dog because of the noise and limited use cases, and that soldiers preferred wheeled vehicles that they could ride in. You could probably ride on Big Dog and similar legged robots, but it wouldn't be very comfortable.

      Just something I read on the internet but it makes sense. Getting rid of the group seems a bit odd though. Maybe Google is thinking that when humanoid robots are finally "ready" as a consumer product, they can just buy a company and get back in the game. Or maybe they feel that Boston Dynamics costs too much and can't compete in the free market. Their robots did lose the Darpa Robot Challenge to research universities, after all.

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  3. Re:Quelle surprise by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Informative

    The robots they've built are really quite nice looking. If you haven't seen the video, you should check it out.

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  4. Re:Hopefully, Tesla by WarJolt · · Score: 3

    Amazon has the right idea. Thousands of cloud connected drones. Google needs to improve their cloud controlled car, but that's a little bit more difficult. Both companies need to focus more on the IoT aspect of robotics because that's where the money's at.

    Stay away from building the hardware. It's a money pit.

  5. Intellectual Property? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google bought Motorola, took the patents that they wanted, and sold the rest to Lenovo a few years later.

    It's probably the same deal with Boston Dynamics.

  6. Re:dogs by wardrich86 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Every push builds their calibration and balance. They're literally training it to become invincible. They should be pushing it with terror in their eyes knowing that one day they will be bowing to the robot overlords that they created.

  7. Re:dogs by spacepimp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you feel bad for shovels when people use them to dig? Your mind is pattern matching humanistic traits and applying them to a smarter shovel in a sense. I too feel bad. Thats just a neo cortex lingering issue.

  8. Adnvaced Research != 2 years by flink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If your timeline for generating revenue is "a few years", then you should not be in the business of doing advanced research. You're just going to be disappointed.

  9. Why is google doing autonomous cars then? by tekrat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's a field where you're spending a ton of dough, and you won't have a product for 10 years. At least, that's how long it's going to take for the adoption and legalization of autonomous vehicles -- hey google -- when a person with no driver's license can step into a taxi that has no driver, let me know.

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  10. Re:dogs by OhPlz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Doesn't "running a bunch of data through a neural network" also define our own existence?

  11. robotics projected bad PR by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article hints at other reasons. The latest youtube boston dynamics video showing the robot doing human work, was not only impressive, it was frightening. Not that we don't know that it is going to happen (not only in transportation, or manufacturing but also in service, consulting, transportation, delivery, military, health care or teaching), it was scary to see a bot doing things so well, to walk around, do errands. For a company, to be associated or identified with a job eliminator, this is a PR disaster in the long term. Its more subtle in AI or other domains of automation, where we don't see it. And then the article mentions also the lack of short term profitable products and leadership problems. But its interesting to see how non-technical factors start to matter more and more. But as mentioned before, the most important asset which google probably got from the company is the know-how, the top notch engineering, the human potential which can do be used also in non-robotic things. But whoever buys the company, the technology will continue change the future. Amazon is interested. Imagine all the packing and delivery work done by such droids. Maybe they should dress them as minions to make it more acceptable ...