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Facebook's Messenger Bot Store Could Be Most Important Launch Since App Store (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader writes from an opinionated article on TechCrunch by Tom Hadfield: If Facebook announces the "Messenger Bot Store" at F8, as many predict, it would be arguably the most consequential event for the tech industry since Apple announced the App Store and iPhone SDK in March 2008. Today, Facebook Messenger has 800 million monthly active users -- more than 100 times the number of iPhone owners when Apple launched the App Store. In January, TechCrunch first reported rumors of Facebook's secret Chat SDK for building Messenger bots. If and when Facebook announces a Bot Store, it will mark the "end of the beginning" of a new era: messaging as a platform. Over the summer, The Information broke the news that AI-powered Facebook M would enable Messenger users to make purchases, restaurant reservations, and travel bookings within the messaging interface. A Messenger Bot Store would have far-reaching consequences not only for entrepreneurs and investors, but also developers and designers. Sam Lessin, the CEO of Fin, says the rise of chat-based user interfaces will mark "a fundamental shift that is going to change the types of applications that get developed and the style of service development." For a time, bots were perceived to be plain-text exchanges and as such were often described as "invisible apps." As Jonathan Libov at USV points out, "just because the container is a messenger doesn't mean that all the apps inside are text-based." Tomaz Stolfa says there is "unexplored potential in blending conversational interfaces with rich graphical UI elements." If 800 million Facebook users start discovering bots in Messenger after F8, it will vindicate those who have been saying bots are the new apps.

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  1. Wait... by richy+freeway · · Score: 1

    What?

    Facebook Messenger is Emacs in disguise?

    1. Re:Wait... by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      Facebook Messenger is Emacs in disguise?

      No, it's more like Facebook's Messenger is trying to reinvent Google Wave's cool - but thoroughly useless bot ecosystem.

  2. Botter get ready... by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 2

    Let's find a way to organize bots into committees. That'll do them in.

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  3. Ugh by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2

    Maybe this is me wanting the kids off my lawn, but I don't think I've ever wanted a technology launch to fail so badly. The potential for abuse and bloat is just enormous.

    1. Re: Ugh by LordKronos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The hype here is just ridiculous. This could be as revolutionary as well American Express partnered with Twitter to allow you to make purchases with tweets. We're all buying stuff with Twitter now aren't we? Anyone?

  4. The future is here by Time_Ngler · · Score: 2

    Wow, a new way to make purchases, restaurant reservations, and travel bookings! Truly, the new beginning.

    1. Re:The future is here by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      I expect that only a hand full of big fast food chains will build a bot, and that the local restaurants with real food keep on working as usual: open doors or reservation by phone.

      Except in the Bay area, where every shithole and roach coach will have one, each more intrusive than the last.

  5. Hnnnggghhh.. by bmo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...

    Stolfa says there is "unexplored potential in blending conversational interfaces with rich graphical UI elements."

    Kill. Me. Now.

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    1. Re:Hnnnggghhh.. by c · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...

      If Slashdot had finished rolling out beta and turned the comment system into a proper blend of conversational interfaces with rich graphical UI elements, you could have written that sentence with nothing more than an animated emoticon.

      Instead it got sold to a bunch of hacks who seem to care more about usability than hipness...

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    2. Re:Hnnnggghhh.. by flopsquad · · Score: 1

      I must be missing something here.

      An 'app store' can allow everyone from Amazon to Squeenix to Mom & Pop Donuts to Ambitious Undergrad to (relatively easily) create and distribute an infinite variety of programs. Fitness trackers. 8-bit fishing games. Stage lighting controllers. Ride hailing platforms. Apps for navigation and accounting and making farty noises.

      What rich new veins of human experience are we tapping into with a 'bot store'? And how many would-be 'bot developers' even have the wherewithal to program something people would want to interact with?

      I can't even get the fucking telephone robot lady to recognize that I said "yes," and now I'm supposed to want to text United over Facebook for my plane tickets. Because 'bots are the new apps'. Mhm. I guess something always has to be the new something.

      If the first thing that comes to mind when you ask "What can I do with this new technology?" is "Annoy the shit out of people with automated 'One Weird Old Tip' messages"... I mean it's not conclusive or anything. But its probably early to start ordering revised Bibles that reference the new tech messiah.

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    3. Re:Hnnnggghhh.. by james_marsh · · Score: 2

      I think Clippy demonstrated the potential outcome more than adequately.

    4. Re:Hnnnggghhh.. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...

      Stolfa says there is "unexplored potential in blending conversational interfaces with rich graphical UI elements."

      Kill. Me. Now.

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      I'm surprised he failed to mention that this was a synergistically disruptive paradigm shift in the Cloud.

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  6. "Bot?" as in Chat Bot? by ebonum · · Score: 1

    I only have a face book account so that someone else can't register an account in my name and spew god knows what.
    With a message chat bot, face book might become usable! It can reply to messages, post random links to tech stuff and read other people's dribble so that I don't every have to log on. I can finally continue to do what I'm not doing already! Non-problem officially solved.

    1. Re: "Bot?" as in Chat Bot? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      You're in for a big surprise. User names are far from unique on Facebook. You having an account in your name doesn't stop 100 other people from having accounts with the same name.

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  7. i already have aol by nexus9k · · Score: 1

    ...but will this improve my connection speed?

    1. Re:i already have aol by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      You jest, but the AI chat bot concierge thing was done on AOL many years ago with SmarterChild (and AI chat in general long before that by ELIZA...). It was a goofy idea then, and is still a goofy idea now. I guess even Indians are getting too expensive these days...

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  8. Re:This is just some bullshit news release by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    Can someone tell me, in English, what any of this means?

    It means whatever it is, you probably don't want it and you definitely don't need it.

    It's like a commercial for some new pharmaceutical when you don't have the disease. You think, "Oh man, that's a shame that some people have to live with that kind of horror" while at the same time thinking, "I am SO glad I don't have that awful disease".

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  9. 800 million? by vanyel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because messenger is part of the facebook page, everyone on facebook uses it? Someone is very optimistic... Facebook will get financial information out of my cold, dead, hands.

    1. Re:800 million? by labnet · · Score: 1

      Because messenger is part of the facebook page, everyone on facebook uses it? Someone is very optimistic... Facebook will get financial information out of my cold, dead, hands.

      Comrade, I see you are having trouble adjusting to our 'new utopia'.
      Don't you realize the corporation loves you!
      Where once you endangered yourself with face to face interactions, we have now provided you with a virtual cohabitation that empowers your choice and well being.
      Be assured; once we have eliminated cash, your motivation to participate in the 'new utopia' will be irresistible.

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    2. Re:800 million? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Actually because messenger is now a separate app to facebook in my experience I find more people actively using messenger than posting on facebook. No I'm serious there are many people I know who have gotten the shits with facebook itself but keep using the messaging service.

  10. What am I going to be trusting to AI by rsborg · · Score: 1

    I'd rather work with humans on the other end of a chat interface like this:
    http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/...

    I wonder if FB "AI" is going to be like the Netflix "AI" that did the recommendations engine - based on human intelligence.

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  11. Re:This is just some bullshit news release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been a programmer since the early 1970's, have used messaging programs since "talk" on early Unix machines, and I have no clue either.

    Perhaps it is related to leveraging their synergies.

  12. Re:This is just some bullshit news release by MrKrillls · · Score: 1

    I think it means one more insecure way to buy stuff. Not sure I want to trust FB with any more of my life.

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  13. Re:This is just some bullshit news release by alexhs · · Score: 1

    Can someone tell me, in English, what any of this means?

    It seems to be Web 2.0 Clippy.

    It looks like you're arranging a dinner. Would you like help? [x] Get help with booking a restaurant.

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  14. Re:This is just some bullshit news release by samantha · · Score: 1

    How will it be any more powerful than at most an IRC bot? OK, in principle you could message an app that would send messages back and possibly to other apps. So you could have an OO message fest. Is that what they have in mind?

  15. Re:Feeling old by Kellamity · · Score: 1

    I read the link and I still have no idea what a 'Bot Store' is. I wrote an IRC chat bot 15 years ago, can I sell it?

  16. Written by the CEO of a bot company by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

    Trying to hype his start up and market segment.

  17. CLI by jan_koch · · Score: 1

    So basically, Facebook will provide a command-line interface to lots of services. I will not use it because Facebook, but I like the direction this is heading.

  18. Everything old is new again by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    The end of the world? blending conversational interfaces with rich graphical UI elements is scary? I suppose it depends how you use it.

    Yes, I realize that we are in a sort of difficult period in computing. There are still a lot of us that remember learning programming as kids, and it was high tech and new - and the only way to interact with computers. And yet there is a huge percentage of people under 24 which have absolutely no idea how technology works; I'd put them in a lower class than my mother who is in her 70s. She realizes that she has no idea how it works and that bothers her. Where as the 22 year old (real person) who doesn't understand what has gone wrong when the email on his computer isn't sync'd with his phone simply decides not to use the computer anymore for email, and figures he'll buy a new one someday and that will probably fix it.

    We're going back to the 1970s, folks. These bots (what a horrible name) will bring back the historic travel agency model, where you are steered towards what you are looking for, and you just have to hope and trust that the agent handing you glossy brochures knows what the fuck they're doing and isn't screwing you on the price. If there's enough competition that the prices stay mostly in parity with keyboard-based bookings, it will simply be one more separation of the tech from the user. AI for the win. Or it could be like modern advertising on the web, and anyone who has a clue does their best to block out as much of it as possible because nearly all of it is predatory.

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  19. Meh by mt2mb4me · · Score: 1

    Who wants a point and click app, when you can have a textual conversation in Facebook messenger. I mean, it is so much quicker to type out a block of text and hope a bot can figure out what I am saying than it is to click an icon. WTF. The only way something like this could work, is if "OK Google" and Siri could take direct commands like "OK Google, I need to book a flight to CLE from STL tommorow on United Airlines" But Again, I would bet that Google and Apple are working on their own concoction for that as we speak.

  20. China did it already. by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

    China has had WeChat Pay and quite a few other integrated functions (e.g. adding minutes to phone card) for quite some time. It even allows one to send money to other WeChat users, assuming both have a linked bank account.

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  23. Ads! by Toshito · · Score: 1

    Tomaz Stolfa says there is "unexplored potential in blending conversational interfaces with rich graphical UI elements."

    Rich graphical UI elements, like ads?

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