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Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey: the 140-Character Limit 'Is Staying'

An anonymous reader writes: The rumor that Twitter will scrap its 140-character limit for tweets just won't die. In an interview with NBC this morning, CEO Jack Dorsey has gone on record to say that the limit is staying.

67 comments

  1. Like that's gonna matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He said that they had no intention of messing with the chronological timeline, and here we are.

  2. Flash Required = Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I'm not going to use Flash just so I can see some interview. I know how to read, post a transcript of the interview.

  3. The war on white space by Tim+the+Gecko · · Score: 0

    Traditionally writers put a space before an opening bracket (like this), but I'm seeing a lot of Slashdot contributors scrunch up the bracket against the last word(like this). Also there are people who don't write the spaces in "a lot" or "at least", and other similar phrases. I wonder if this War on White Space is partly down to Twitter and its character limit.

    1. Re:The war on white space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      YesabsolutelyrightIthinkEnglishisgoingtolookalooklikegermaninthenodistantfuture.

    2. Re:The war on white space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never attribute to Twitter, SMS or any other communication platform that which is adequately explained by laziness.

    3. Re:The war on white space by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Also there are people who don't write the spaces in "a lot" or "at least"

      That would be what we call misspelled.

      Way back when, a college friend got a paper back from a professor with the following written across the first page in big, red marker:

      "a lot" is two words, remember this or I will kill you

      He never misspelled it again.

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      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    4. Re: The war on white space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heaven forbid the written word evolves. Alot of people seem to have a hard time coping.

    5. Re:The war on white space by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      These days we say this (is, a, message, )

    6. Re: The war on white space by stridebird · · Score: 1

      You better have alittle understanding of why alot is so wrong.

    7. Re: The war on white space by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      "I'm not wrong, I'm just changing the definition of right!"

    8. Re:The war on white space by infolation · · Score: 2

      YesabsolutelyrightIthinkEnglishisgoingtolookalooklikegermaninthenodistantfuture.

      That's how Thai, Laos and Myanmar script is actually written (zero spaces).

      And by using diacritical marks to indicate vowels, those languages are extremely economical. (Twitter-friendly).

    9. Re:The war on white space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's down to them being AMERICANS, who are increasingly becoming as thick as two short planks. I can't believe how many times I see AMERICANS writing "to" instead of "too". Have they never come across the word "too"? Probably not, because they probably never read books, or real newspapers or magazines, instead reading endless grammatically incorrect comments online.

    10. Re: The war on white space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is a "character"? Eg, if I use Chinese then is the limit more like 140 words?

    11. Re:The war on white space by PessimysticRaven · · Score: 1

      I wish I could argue with this, but I cannot.

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      Consistency is only a virtue if you're not a screw-up.
  4. 140? by turkeydance · · Score: 0

    i can do it in 6: for now.

    1. Re:140? by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      the space also counts as a character. so that's 7.

  5. FRST P0ST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the limit here is only 35 chara

  6. Offering others a chance to share the pie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that Twitter has made its final decision, that it will be sticking strictly to the 140-character limit, a new chance has opened for others to offer similar service offering messages with longer length

    After all, it's like Kodak's decision to stay with negatives allowing Conon and others to surpass it with digital photography

    1. Re:Offering others a chance to share the pie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Now that Twitter has made its final decision, that it will be sticking strictly to the 140-character limit, a new chance has opened for others to offer similar service offering messages with longer length

      Yes. It's called Facebook.

      Twitter has always been a solution in search of a problem. With the 140 character limit its impossible to conduct any meaningful communication. Without the limit, its no different than the gazillion other places where people can post their self-important, mindless drivel that nobody give two shits about

    2. Re:Offering others a chance to share the pie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Twitter was never about communication. It is an event notification system. Only the rate of events is important.

      And, the rate of change of events. That's what tells you what is going on.

    3. Re:Offering others a chance to share the pie by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      I love how the '140 chars isnt enuffs!' argument is brought up on the site that popularized the term 'RTFA'.

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    4. Re:Offering others a chance to share the pie by niftymitch · · Score: 1

      Now that Twitter has made its final decision, that it will be sticking strictly to the 140-character limit....

      Simple solution...
      Tweet: "Bob check your mail"
      Tweet: "Bob check my blog"
      Tweet: "Bob look up! I am sitting across from you at the dinner table."

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      Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't. Mark Twain.
    5. Re:Offering others a chance to share the pie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, let's see how well we can communicate in less than 140 characters:
      - You're an idiot
      - You don't know what communication means
      - STFU
      Yeap, I think we can communicate pretty well, don't you?

    6. Re:Offering others a chance to share the pie by infolation · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows that
      seventeen syllables are
      more than sufficient

    7. Re:Offering others a chance to share the pie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is Twitter we're talking about so I think you mean:

      - You're a racist
      - You're a white male so your opinion is invalid
      - You're literally raping me right now

    8. Re:Offering others a chance to share the pie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The trend for all social media is inevitably toward full-on blogging. It's the manifest destiny of all social media, because people need to communicate and yet (as someone who offered a federally funded project to provide free websites to all small businesses, which utterly failed), the complexities of even basic blogging are far beyond most potential users.

      So, social media companies have to keep their systems very simple (their key benefit over head-first blogging). So how can they change to offer complete blogging services, yet still remain who they are? And what do they have to keep to remain as-simple-as-expected for their users?

      So, with Twitter, they're keeping the character limit. Makes sense, yet as you point out, prevents meaningful communication (i.e., blogging).

      They could have easily offered a paid version which allowed people to blog beyond the character limit -- actually increasing the simplicity of their system while generating revenues, which is a rare opportunity.

      I suspect that, before the end, Twitter will do just that -- but apparently without Dorsey at the helm.

  7. Yes - twitter is for by xtronics · · Score: 1

    People that can't put two complete thoughts toge

    1. Re:Yes - twitter is for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well written is terse. "kill your darlings.”
        Stephen King,

    2. Re:Yes - twitter is for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      facebook is for people who haven't figured out the internet yet.. twitter is for people too dumb to figure out facebook.

  8. Also said during the interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    >>Twitter founder and chief executive Jack Dorsey insists his social media platform does not censor user content, despite suspicion suggesting otherwise.

    >>"Absolutely not," he told TODAY's Matt Lauer

    Bullshit. #FreeStacy

  9. Re: frosted piss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds kinky

  10. For usability purposes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's easier for Twitter and the US Government to data-mine things 140 bytes at a time. If you start allowing people to post 1,000 word essays, lexical analysis and pattern matching require far more resources.

  11. This is why CEOs earn so much money by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because they have to make the tough executive decisions, like how long a tweet should be.

    1. Re: This is why CEOs earn so much money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wooohoo socialites. Lets like celebrate @like #140tostay. Omg #twitter

        i bet that tag already exists

  12. Right... by Mashiki · · Score: 2

    This is right after he said Twitter wasn't censoring anyone. When there's ample evidence of people being told to delete factual tweets, because it hurts someones feels.

    You're doing a bang up job there Jack. You opened at nearly $17.20 and closed at just above $16.50 in after hours trading.

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  13. Increase it a bit, at least by honestmonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wish they would increase it just a bit, say to 144, because sometimes I have things to say and they just don't seem to fit into 140 charac

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    Everything you know is wrong, Just forget the words and sing along.
    1. Re:Increase it a bit, at least by the_humeister · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You should post in Chinese then. 140 characters is plenty in a logographic writing system.

    2. Re:Increase it a bit, at least by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I bet there's a scary german word for that

    3. Re:Increase it a bit, at least by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Das toofugginshortendertextenfielderscheissentweeter

    4. Re:Increase it a bit, at least by antdude · · Score: 1

      Or better, shrink it down to 1 bit!

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    5. Re:Increase it a bit, at least by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      144 characters would be gross!

    6. Re:Increase it a bit, at least by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I tried to post a 0 in response to this, but Slashdot wouldn't let me reply with that as my whole comment.

      0

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  14. Whew! by slowdeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't think I could take more that 140 characters of Donald Trump at one time!

    Donald Trump. Just say no.

    1. Re:Whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slowdeath can't even take what I'm dishing out. Sad!

    2. Re:Whew! by slowdeath · · Score: 1

      The Real True One And Only Donald would never post as AC! Imposter! :-)

    3. Re:Whew! by blogagog · · Score: 1

      Agreed! The only thing worse than Trump would be Clinton.

    4. Re:Whew! by WallyL · · Score: 1

      Truth. Fortunately, I seriously doubt a man of Trump's... profession would actually ever visit /.

    5. Re:Whew! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      If I weren't so lazy, I would totally make a new account just to reply to this...unfortunately, I am lazy.

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  15. Just in case by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    "Twitter users can relax, we remain absolutely committed to prohibit any text that may provoke any important thoughts or opinions."

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    Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
  16. Oh, Jack Dorsey is doing much worse than that by Nova+Express · · Score: 2

    About a year ago, Twitter was trading in the 50s. So Jack Dorsey has managed to destroy more than half the value of the company.

    What do you expect from the genius who hired Sarkeesian to protect free speech, which is like hiring Ted Bundy to run a battered women’s shelter

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    1. Re:Oh, Jack Dorsey is doing much worse than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About a year ago, Twitter was trading in the 50s.

      That only demonstrates that the stock market is a complete scam. Twitter has never generated a profit and loses a couple hundred million dollars every year.

    2. Re:Oh, Jack Dorsey is doing much worse than that by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Twitter has never generated a profit and loses a couple hundred million dollars every year.

      That is not possible. If they never generated a profit, what money are they spending over their income every year?

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  17. Flashback? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone else read this and immediately think of "No one will ever need more than 640k of RAM"?

  18. Incentives for crass stupidity by RogueyWon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've mixed feelings over social media in general, but Twitter in the specific makes my blood boil.

    It's a medium that seems designed to kill off nuance, civility and sophistication of thought. By forcing people into 140 characters and providing social incentives for them to use those 140 characters to say something that will be shared as widely as possible, it encourages them to make the crassest, most polarizing statements possible. I'd put Twitter as the number one reason that so many online debates these days devolve into bitter mud-slinging between the loudest fringes of two opposing echo-chambers.

    The rapid-response culture of twitter just makes things worse. Combined with the anonymity of online interactions, it compels people to speak before they've had a chance to do a sense-check and think through the consequences. There's no shortage of examples of responsible individuals in major corporations who have thrown away careers because they got sucked into the vortex that Twitter creates. One example, former Microsoft director Adam Orth and the "deal with it" furore over the planned always-online functionality for the Xbox One. Now, you could argue that in this case, Twitter did us a service by providing him with a platform to air his (or the company's) "true feeling". I'm not necessarily sure that's the right response, though. I strongly suspect pretty much everybody has "true feelings" which are pretty appalling at times (I know I do) and a huge part of social interaction is toning those things down before they can fly from your mouth (or indeed, stopping them altogether). Twitter, by design, takes the brakes off.

    Some people can be incredibly witty and lucid within a single sentence. You see those in the occasional +5 Funny or +5 Insightful post on slashdot. Those people are a minority (and most of them struggle to manage it consistently). Most one-line posts are badly written crap (and usually from ACs). Twitter just institutionalizes that, except with less anonymity.

    1. Re:Incentives for crass stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      TL;DR

    2. Re:Incentives for crass stupidity by DamonHD · · Score: 1

      Brevity is better than waffle, given the choice...

      Rgds

      Damon

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    3. Re:Incentives for crass stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True dat

  19. Channeling Bill Gates by hackertourist · · Score: 1

    140 characters should be enough for anyone.

  20. customers by kqc7011 · · Score: 1

    The 140 might be staying, but the customers are going.

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    Passionately Indifferent
  21. but papaw is sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PAwPAAAA eats burgers alone :(

  22. FUCK TWITTER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There. That only took a dozen characters, thirteen if you want to pretend a stupid fucking pound-sign, or append an exclamation mark... Fourteen to do both, a mere tenth of the stupid fucking arbitrary, goddamned fucking character limit.

    Twitter. If you can say what you have to say in under 140 characters, you obviously didn't have shit to say in the first place.

    Fuck Twitter.

  23. 140 is staying...but does that preclude expanding? by ScooterComputer · · Score: 1

    That Jack said 140 characters is staying, I'm wondering might be one of those Steve Jobsian deft maneuvers where you say what people are listening for, but aren't actually saying what you're planning (and thus don't actually ANSWER the question).

    I'd not mind Twitter to stick to 140 characters for tweets as they appear in the Feed. In fact, I tweeted Jack my suggestion:
    - 140 characters Tweets would stay. You could continue to tweet 140 characters at a time, OR the 140 character tweet could also be a Summary Tweet that includes expands out into a Super Tweet.
    - Super Tweet that would be 500 characters (something like that). The Summary Tweet would show in the Timeline with a "more..." expander widget. Users could choose to subscribe to a Feed or an Expanded Feed, and that would determine how much Tweet the feed is sent. If you sub to an Expanded Feed, you get the 500 character tweets in your timeline without having to make a call-back to Twitter to "load more". For normal feeds, you'd have to wait while the tweet expands. 140 characters can just be too limited a lot of the time, and anywhere from 200 to 500 would be a welcome expansion. The user would be able to edit the Summary Tweet "part" of a Super Tweet before Sending.
    - Finally, Twitter should support a Long-form Note. This wouldn't be that difficult, basically some standardized manner to link to a blog post or article, which might be hosted at Twitter, or not be. The nice thing is that they could implement Notes the way Jack has already been using OS X's Note app, use an image representation and attach that to the Summary Tweet/Super Tweet that links to it.

    That doesn't mean that 140 has to go away, just as Jack says. It will stay. But that wouldn't have to mean that Twitter can't expand the kinds of Tweets as well.

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    Scott
    "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
  24. Someone still uses twitter? by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    Stupid platform used by stupid people.