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Have a Political Bumper Sticker? The FBI Might Be Snapping Photos of You (muckrock.com)
v3rgEz writes: Tomorrow marks the 35th anniversary of Food Not Bombs, the peace organization that seeks to democratically divert military spending into free food for the needy. But as documents recently obtained by MuckRock show, even such tepid support as a bumper sticker for the outspoken anti-violence organization could land you in FBI files. Read on for yet another example of how the FBI puts war protesters, Juggalos, and animal rights activists in the same category as organized crime and terrorist groups.
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The car photo in the story has dozens of bumper stickers plastered over the back; it's hardly a single political bumper sticker. The person wanted to get noticed and should not be surprised to have someone take a pic of his car--or, if the FBI is there, to have them grab a picture for file art. If you're out investigating and see something that sticks out that much, wouldn't you take a picture of it?
I don't know about FNB, but if they're anything like ANSWER, then go ahead and track them. ANSWER is a communist front. Code Pink? It's really just anti-Israel and almost certainly has some jihadists in it. Google it. Yes, the FBI can go off the rails just like anybody else; but they can also know their shit. You think a front group is going to call itself "Front group that wants to destabilize shit, engage in criminal activity, and cause problems?". No. It's going to put "peace", "justice", or whatever in the name. It's going to fleece college kids out of their time and money.
Time to slap stickers on random people's cars in parking lots.
Enjoy the increased signal to noise ratio mister FBI man!
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
You wanted to get noticed, and you did.
This isn't exactly a news story. If you're that public about your beliefs, you should expect that people know about it.
"Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
A while back I saw a study about bumper stickers and traffic tickets. You're more likely to get a traffic ticket if you have an anti-police ("I shot the pig!") or pro-crime ("Legalized pot forever!") on the rear bumper. You're less likely to get a traffic ticket for having bumper stickers on the front bumper. Go figure.
I'll put this bumper sticker on the left side of my car:
"Attention FBI: This car best photographed from the right side."
and on the right side of my car:
"Attention FBI: This car best photographed from the left side."
Then put some other nutty bumper stickers in between, and wait for the fun to start!
Would have been easier if they just used the standard economist line instead of "food not bombs".
So this is how the IRS is really targeting specific groups of people for auditing!
To be honest, i think Vegans, PETA, and Juggalos, should all indeed be put on terrorist organization lists.
Especially Vegans. Their urge to invade everyone's hearing space like cockroaches invade houses is a terror to the ears and mental stability of people who only want to go with their lives without some foodie equivalent of ISIS/ISIL following them and screaming that eating meat is HARAM.
Frankly, even cockroaches are more tolerable.
Canadians, by and large, do not use bumper stickers (its some sort of deeply ingrained politeness thing) so CSIS and the other five-eyes organizations have to work much harder than bumper scanning. For those of you thinking of moving north in the event of a Trump presidential win, peel off all those stickers first so that you blend in much easier out on the road.
I deny that I have not avoided attaining the opposite of that which I do not want.
But Special Agent, I really can't afford a new paint job on this old VW Van I bought at that Buy Here - Pay Here lot down the street! I've been sanding out the rust and covering it over with all them free stickers people like to hand out! I'm not really in to "Wicca" what ever that is, or John Burch who ever he is. And that really nice lady from the PTA gave me all those mis-printed stickers that say PITA, wasn't that nice of her? Oh not sure what NIN is. What speak up just a little, hearing aid is on the fritz... Commie? ME??? Hell no I'm was in Viet Nam!
You can ask for a copy of your FBI file and any information the FBI has about you any time you want- and I do this regularly. In spite of tons of activities that tinfoil-hatters would swear would get me noticed, there is not a shred of information about me maintained by the FBI.
Of course, if you're a true conspiracist, you think the FBI is routinely (and, in my case, annually for the last 20 years) lying to people like me.
Figure indeed. You're saying, "I hate your guts" is a terrible way to begin a conversation and tends to lead to an angry response from the other party?
Incredible.
People with such bumper stickers really need to stop giggling and think about how they're presenting themselves. "Hello officer" isn't the start of the conversation if you have a bumper sticker like that.
People whose stance on something is strong enough to make them announce it to every stranger on the road are more likely than most to go as far as to attack someone over it. It *has* happened before.
It's a well known fact.
Signed, a Mac user.
People who had Ron Paul bumper stickers were placed on DHS watch lists, which we all know gets shared with everyone else _including_ the FBI (Remember fusion centers right?). It only takes 1 of something to get you on a list, and like TFA demonstrates simply following a particular band like ICP will get you labelled and placed on a list.
Oh, and to be perfectly clear, we _KNOW_ that people were put on lists for being Ron Paul supporters. It took years for people to get removed and of course the Government "claims" that they don't do that any more. If you believe the Government.. well, you are beyond help.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
I NEVER put ANYTHING on my car! I don't want ANYONE to know my politics, my habits, or anything about who I am when I am on the road or in a parking lot. I want to be just another anonymous driver!
and sit down and comply, don't rock the boat, don't ask questions, and don't spread ideas and opinions that diverge from the status quo. Or you'll get your name on a list. Welcome to the 21st century in the U.S.
Of course they do not have a file on you. You are an unimportant person, of little interest to anyone except your parents.
The president is near?
... The FBI might be snapping photos of you anyways.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
> FBI puts war protesters, Juggalos, and animal rights activists in the same category as organized crime and terrorist groups.
Good. Just look at Belgium, where there is nobody strong enough to fight terrorists left. It's a country full of wimps.
Person with leftist bumper stickers thinks ANYONE taking pictures of their car is doing so to add them to an FBI tracking list, and yet the people posting violent anti-government rhetoric on the Internet in support of the unlawful actions of the Malheur Wildlife Reserve occupiers somehow don't think they are making the FBI pay any attention to them at all... after all, they have a _right_ to protest against the government, right?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Exactly my reaction: "What?!? You mean juggalos AREN'T a criminal organization?!?" If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Worse, try writing "[Candidate 2016]" with sidewalk chalk on a sidewalk in a public place (that normally encourages free expression) and the local authorities may check surveillance camera footage so they can harass you.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/03/24/someone-wrote-trump-2016-on-emorys-campus-in-chalk-some-students-said-they-no-longer-feel-safe/
And notes about him are kept there. :P
For sure the republicans are collecting data on it, I had a guy visit to talk to me about candidate and on his way out he seemed check my cars out and mark shit down in his iDevice.
One of the people I went to college with had modified his van with a custom wooden bumper that had an apparently real marijuana leaf laminated in the center. I often wondered how often he got pulled over...
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
I am proud to offer this laurel, and hardy handshake to our new...nigger.
Are the FBI hoarding all the tinfoil hats? The things these guys believe are a little out there...
You don't see that as attracting at least some attention?
You reveal yourself as someone who doesn't put bumper stickers on your car. It's very little information, and likely pretty useless, but it's something about you nevertheless.
People who become terrorists tend to make some noise while radicalizing, before they go quiet. A bumper sticker is potential noise. Although, admittedly, probably not where they should be looking.
Before 9-11 I was required to drive my own van for work stuff and I was not being paid enough for milage. So, seeing as it was my own van I had a couple of magnet signs made up for the doors.
Imaging a circle logo with the top half in big letters, "Bob's Nukes." On the bottom half, in smaller letters, it said, "on time & on target," under that, "guaranteed yield."
Not surprisingly, my manager and I had a discussion, the signs came off and my mileage got increased. . . but I loved those signs.
Two names:
Al Gore
[myself]
I remember reading about this study this years ago, it shows that people with more bumper stickers are more likely to be involved in road rage incidents. The theory is, people who personalize their vehicle tend to view the vehicle as their own private space, even when on the public roads. Because they are in their own private space, they literally do feel that they own the road.
http://www.nature.com/news/200...
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Anyone with a car plastered with bumper stickers like that needs to have a mental health file on them.
We can sit around and poke fun at vegans, Juggalos, PETA, and all the other groups that are super easy to/we love to hate. That's precisely why this article is propaganda, as you shouldn't think for a second that "political statements" like being pro-encryption, rooting for Apple, anti-authoritarian, or against a police state doesn't also land you on the same lists.
It's fun to joke around and all, but allowing any ridiculous-yet-innocuous activities be branded as terrorism just opens the door for the totalitarians to brand any common sense political leanings the same way. You know, I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Juggalo...or whatever.
I suppose I could get on the FBI's good side by adding a 'Lavrentiy Beria for US Attorney General' sticker.
Have gnu, will travel.
If you are a terrorist or have a dark compection, make copies of these and cover your car.
Bumper Sticker #1
Bumper Sticker #2
Bumper Sticker #4
Bumper Sticker #5
that's exactly how it went down...
Good ! because we're right and "the Man" is wrong.
I hope everyone who reads my file sees the stickers, understands the point it makes, and joins us.
No such thing as bad publicity.
...excuse me while I whip this out.....
I made up one, yellow background...since the libs were calling any shooter a "right wing extremist" I made on that says POTENTIAL Right Wing Extremist On Board. Since I love firearms, and I'm conservative.
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Road Rage Linked To Automobile Bumper Stickers
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Agreed. Either we are all rational adults that can calmly ignore the speech we do not like or we are all sheep that need to be sheltered from the bad, emotionally stingy words.
A Republican or a Democrat can work in the new government.
Political Bumper Stickers are an invitation for getting your car keyed/vandalized in this polarized election cycle.
There are a lot of crazies out there getting violent when they someone supporting a candidate that they don't like.
BZZZT
"The researchers recorded whether people had added seat covers, bumper stickers, special paint jobs, stereos and even plastic dashboard toys....."
It's not political opinions, it's how much bling crap you've added to your car.
Beware people with fuzzy dice ...
One of the few non-technical outlets that publicized and criticized the FBI for distributing child pornography got raided this past Sunday. There goal was clearly to discredit their biggest critic Ian. The FBI, local, and probably state government, and political enemies in general have had it out for Ian for a long time and were merely waiting on something they could use to take him down/discredit him. Ian is a big political activist in the libertarian community and they're trying to tear it apart from within.
While it's highly unlikely that they will actually find real child pornography (unless its planted or similar... maybe.. not sure if they are going to go that far... more likely they'll find something else to charge him with when nothing turns up) on any of the dozens of seized computers including those of his house mates and the studio's work-machines it has still ruined his reputation.
This is Julian Assange all over again. Ian already had a dim view of the government, rallied against it, and in in Ian's case the government's and general populations perspective on the topic of sex, children, and pornography. The media and Ian's critics have turned some of his opinions on there head, twisting, and slandered him. They have gone so far as to accuse him of being a paedophile, and even supporting child molestation. Now the FBI has raided his studio and home on the highly suspicious and unlikely accusation that someone accessed a Tor hidden site of which the FBI itself distributed child pornography.
Sadly even if Ian was speaking directly to the people most can't comprehend logic, reason, or see past there own prejudices. The masses would murder all black children if they were told black children somehow hurt white children even if all the evidence was contrary and then they'd burn down the homes of those presenting said evidence (that black children don't harm white children). People prefer a preconceived emotionally f'd up reality. They want to have someone to attack. If they can't attack homosexuals, blacks, mexicans, socialists, or some other group they just find some new group to attack. And for the time being that's paedophiles.
So how did they do it? They took Ian's own child molestation story and turned it around. They took it and accused him of being a child molester. His opinion on consent differers from what is politically acceptable and for that it's quite easy to attack him (especially when you lie about what he has said).
The FBI has now come in and raided his studio. Ian has not been arrested nor has anybody been arrested. The FBI has zero actual evidence. What they have is a fishing expedition and are searching Ian's computers and every computer of those around him. Computers he and his house mates will never get back. A little background on Ian. Ian is a radio host with a show airing on thousands of stations across the US. He advocates less government. He is not a conservative. He is not a liberal. He is a libertarian. He is against violence and the use of force against others. This includes children. The entire idea that he would be OK with child molestation (or at least non-consensual sex) is nonsense.
Where does the Taurine come from? Just looking at it's name I expect it's from beef. And while that might work, I believe that cats will do quite well with the appropriate amino acid supplement. (They'll hate it, of course.) So with the correct synthetic supplements you could raise a cat on a vegan diet. If you could get them to eat it.
But needing that kind of supplement is what is meant by saying they are an obligate carnivore.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
I think the chances are higher for a window being broken, or a tire punctured, costing a couple hundred dollars to fix, than some FBI list.
The cat food I get is like doritos for the cat. She loves that crunchy stuff like I love nachos. Seems vegetarian enough to me for my little carnivore.
Police and FBI are routinely taking photos of your car every day, regardless of what stickers might or might not be on your car.
Criminally stupid? Guilty on all counts. But actual criminals? Probably few and far between and I'd guess it's limited to vandalism.
...is not the Russkies. It is the lefties of Europe and America who have been bought by the Wahabists of Riad. Their ideology is much more dangerous than communism, because they have produced hundreds of millions of young men.
YOU should better headwash YOUR corrupt, whahbist-corrupted elite instead of pontificating about the Russkies.
NSA's so-called "Lockbox" of billions of people's email, sms, communication patterns and probably transcribed telephone calls is IN EFFECT a File On Everybody.
If you will ever be suspected of something, they can pull all your emails from 1995 to 2016. They will find out your preferences, your agonies, your ex girlfriends and lots of other stuff.
But NSA insists "we do not have a file on everybody". I guess they have hired Bill Clinton for an advanced (re)definition of "file".
...have been in major offices in pax Americana land: E.g. Joschka Fischer and Manuel Barroso. They were either carrying weapons while fighting the state themselves or they were aiding and abetting murderers.
Look up their careers. Being a real terrorist is not a reason you cannot get into highest offices.
...of the Lefties and Mohammedists:
" or we are all sheep that need to be sheltered from the bad, emotionally stingy words."
"Trump supporters are dangerous"
typical communist agit-prop, change-the-truth-by-180-degrees tactics by you bastards.
AS A FACT, it has been leftist-mohammedist agents (most of them Useful Idiots) who violently disrupted Mr Trump's rallies in the first place.
"lying to people like me"
They will come up with some bullshit national security reason why they will give you only the watered-down version of their files. Do you seriously think an internal security+intelligence organization will hand you all their files ?
What if you are really a terrorist or a foreign agent or something like that ? They would massively help you by handing out their files.
That is their paranoia and that is why they will routinely hand you only the irrelevant file, which would only contain things like police-recorded crimes and so on.
If you dig a bit deeper you will find out that a large number of agencies have files, often several types at a single agency. And they know lots of stuff about you, even if you are a completely harmless person.
They think they need this in case you should ever apply for political office or for a top secret job or something like that.
And surely they have dozens of megabytes of emails, sms and all that at NSA. Dating back to the 1990s or earlier, if you ever used telegrams and so on.
Of, and if you ever sent a letter to foreign countries or to 'dangerous people', they have a copy of them, too.
I do not want to scare you, I just like to deconstruct you rosy message.
read RT.com.
(yeah, I know, bad, bad russkies. Here is the protip: The mohammedists are much more dangerous and have already bought our elite.)
MORE DEAD COPS
"Us is terrorist squad, see?.An them is Terrorists! They wouldn't 'ave called Us in if they weren't terrorists, right? So there!"
I wonder what watchlist my FSM car emblem has gotten me on. Probably some Vatican cabal.
It shouldn't come as any surprise. The government has been known to keep a list of people who want the TSA abolished, people who are members of organizations such as the ACLU, EFF (Electronic Frontiers Foundation), EPIC and other groups. They have been known to keep tabs on people who want the Patriot Act or the Department of Homeland Security abolished. Shortly after the Edward Snowden revelations, there were politicians asking how Snowden was able to receive a security clearance when he was seen with EFF stickers and was a donor to EFF. They advocated for government officials conducting security clearance investigations to check into records the FBI has to see if they are members of an organization such as EFF since they are concerned that someone who is a member and opposed to domestic surveillance would be a threat to handling classified information. It shouldn't come as a surprise that they are looking at bumper stickers and with license plate readers deployed almost everywhere they most likely not only get a photo of your license plate but also bumper stickers as you drive past these readers.
The answer is Yes. The FBI have you on file for having a political bumper sticker.
Also for those with non-political bumper stickers. And for those without political bumper stickers. Basically if you have a pulse and are not comatose, you have an FBI file (thought the coma team made a strong case last week that the comatose are a hotbed of political rebels, punks and reds. Awakenings sounded the alarm!!).