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You'll Soon Be Able To 'Holoport' Anywhere In the World With Microsoft VR Tech (thenextweb.com)

An anonymous reader cites an article on The Next Web: Microsoft research manager Shahram Izadi is showing off the company's latest innovation using HoloLens: 'holoportation,' enabling him to appear as if he's there in real-time, anywhere in the world. His image is captured in 3D by cameras placed around the room. This is then stitched together, compressed and transmitted so someone else can see, hear and interact with him as though he's right there with them. You can even playback previous interactions, as though "walking into a living memory," and miniaturize the content to make it easier to consume. "Imagine being able to virtually teleport from one place to another," he says. Well, if you're the owner of a HoloLens, you soon could do. Microsoft's HoloLens is arguably the front-runner in the nascent, but fast-evolving, augmented reality space. The company's technology has previously been seen used by astronauts and scientists to "walk on the Mars surface" without stepping out of their office on Earth. It's fascinating to see how Microsoft continues to further innovate in this field.

54 comments

  1. With 45 degrees of FOV by bongey · · Score: 1

    The hololens will fail, the FOV is too narrow to be useful. The meta 2 is already better.

    1. Re:With 45 degrees of FOV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From Meta 2's website:

      Meta 2’s unique neuroscience-driven interface design principles allow you to access, manipulate and share digital information easily and naturally. We call this The Neural Path of Least Resistance, a new zero-learning-curve approach to computing.

      Zero-learning curve neuroscience-driven UX? And it's lost me immediately.

    2. Re:With 45 degrees of FOV by bongey · · Score: 1

      Well you can actually see what the meta 2 looks like here from a iphone video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      The hololens videos are all cgi edited videos, not actual videos.

    3. Re:With 45 degrees of FOV by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      The hololens will fail, the FOV is too narrow to be useful. The meta 2 is already better.

      Yes, Hololens will fail, but not because of the Meta 2. The Meta 2 gets its processing power from a tethered top of the line desktop computer. Hololens on the other hand is untethered. It has all the processing power it needs inside its helmet. The two devices are not comparable at all.

      That being said, I agree with you. What Microsoft originally bought from ODG for $120 million was a license to their AR technology, it was never meant to double as an immersive VR gaming platform. If Microsoft couldn't acquire the right technology from the get go for the strategy it had in mind, it should just have started from scratch like MagicLeap did.

    4. Re:With 45 degrees of FOV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having actually used it -- I'd prefer a wider field of view, of course, but the 45 degrees is not unuseful.

      Meanwhile, I haven't used the Meta 2, but the videos of its UI don't impress me at all after using the hololens, and the part where it needs to be tethered to a PC seems like a bigger restriction than a narrower field of view. With the hololens you can look behind anything.

      Of course, for this particular use, "holoporting", it seems like you need to be in a studio with a narrow field-of-recording, so Meta's narrow field-of-wandering will be irrelevant, so Meta 2 might have an advantage for this application.

      You can be pretty sure that a wider field of view will come in future versions; probably by the first consumer version.

    5. Re:With 45 degrees of FOV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you say "the two devices are not comparable at all"? Of course they are comparable!

      The hololens isn't really comparable to...say....the coal-intake of an old steam engine. Or to an apple. But seriously:

      both project holograms to the user's field of view.
      both are aimed at the same target audience
      both are intended to be used for similar applications
      both are in roughly the same price range
      Both are headsets
      Both perform head tracking
      both respond to gestures
      both produce sound
      both interface with a PC
      Both consume electricity
      Both produce waste heat
      One has a cord, the other does not.

      This is what "comparison" means, and why comparisons are useful.

    6. Re:With 45 degrees of FOV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut the fuck up.

    7. Re:With 45 degrees of FOV by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      As long as the tech allows you to holoport into Tera Patrick's pants or Sunny Leone's bed, which, lets face it, is what 99.9% of VR gear will be used for, who cares?

    8. Re:With 45 degrees of FOV by bongey · · Score: 1

      MS fanboi explodes.

    9. Re:With 45 degrees of FOV by bongey · · Score: 1

      Hololens sacrifices everything to be untethered , and gains nothing.
      So you can use word and excel while riding your bicycle
      Hololens =Small Screen+ Windows Phone+ Intel Mobile CPU/GPU +Small Battery= 3 hours= Winning?
      Meta 2+ Macbook Air + backpack = 12 hours = coding env from heaven

  2. OK with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as they record every movement I make and every word I say and sell it to anyone, I'm ok with this.

    1. Re: OK with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are aware that Microsoft owns Skype, right?

  3. My company's VR tech actually teleports you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'll take 500 million of investment money now, thanks. No I don't have to prove anything, saying it does is good enough in today's tech world.

    1. Re:My company's VR tech actually teleports you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't you heard? "Microsoft keeps innovating".

      LOL.

  4. Because ... by Kohath · · Score: 1

    it's useful to do that?

    1. Re:Because ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as useful as webcams or conference calls

    2. Re:Because ... by Kohath · · Score: 1

      Except everyone who wants to see the hologram has to wear a hololens headset.

      All the benefits of a conference call, but much less convenient and much more expensive.

    3. Re:Because ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows 10 logs your keystrokes. Now this useless, shiny teleconference tool will spy/capture your room with cameras. Do you really need to watch people's lips move when they talk?

    4. Re:Because ... by dlingman · · Score: 2

      Vader certainly didn't have a problem with that when talking to the emperor...

  5. As long as I can do it "soon" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the word that makes everything possible!

  6. Front runner? no. by JustNiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    >> Microsoft's HoloLens is arguably the front-runner in the nascent, but fast-evolving, augmented reality space.

    No it isn't. It isn't anything other than made-up marketing hype until you can actually buy them.

  7. Gah! Skype/Hangouts video is already a menace! by DamonHD · · Score: 1

    Especially if you are at home and haven't gotten dressed and the call starts in video/holo mode without being asked!

    Rgds

    Damon

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  8. Well, if you're the owner of a HoloLens... by Tx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Well, if you're the owner of a HoloLens, you soon could do."

    You mean if you're the owner of a HoloLens ... and a bunch of 3D cameras (looked like about eight in the video) ... with hololens tracking systems attached ... and whatever rig is required to do the processing on the outputs from those cameras ...

    So no, if you're the owner of just a HoloLens (even if you could actually buy one yet), you will not be doing this any time soon, not for any definition of "soon" that I recognise.

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    Oh no... it's the future.
    1. Re:Well, if you're the owner of a HoloLens... by peragrin · · Score: 1

      If you have bandwidth you can off load the processing to axure of Amazon.

      Though holoconferencing sounds better. Personally I can't wait until we get star wars style holoconferencing though.

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    2. Re:Well, if you're the owner of a HoloLens... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Personally I can't wait until we get star wars style holoconferencing though.

      The killer feature will be remotely choking people: "You have failed me for the last time, Admiral."

    3. Re: Well, if you're the owner of a HoloLens... by tigersha · · Score: 1

      'Killer' feature indeed

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      The dangers of excessive individualism are nothing compared to the oppressiveness of excessive collectivism
  9. Re:Dumbest thing I've heard today. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh, if Ivanka Trump was my daughter, I'd fuck her three times a day too.

  10. So... by tnk1 · · Score: 2

    Am I the only one who thinks that holograms as communication would be really cool, but haven't quite figured out how talking to the image of someone else is somehow better than just talking to them on the phone. Even with video cameras I can sort of point it at my head so I can be videoconferencing in gym shorts and no one will care. What does someone get out of me standing there?

    1. Re:So... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What does someone get out of me standing there?

      Body language, emotive expressions, a feel for your interest in conversation. That's why Skype is such a hit. Now, the big question is whether a grainy whole body image of you is better than a moderately high rez image of your face.

      For Carrie Fisher perhaps. For the rest of us, not so much.

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    2. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So far at least, the M$ tech is also touchless. So your kids, friends, and relatives are still interacting with a ghostly phantom that looks like you.

    3. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you are the only one with the sagelike insight required to recognize this, let alone the good sense to realize its importance.

      The way your intellectual capacity differentiates you from the billions of people on this planet is truly astounding.

    4. Re:So... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      Body language, emotive expressions, a feel for your interest in conversation.

      Also boobs.

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      systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
  11. HoloLens is AR not VR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AR = Augmented Reality, the real world is seen with digital information added.

    VR = Virtual Reality, the world is entirely synthetic, sometimes with a bit of real world input.

  12. Holobaloney by orledrat · · Score: 1

    If you squint hard enough, you can already spot him lurking outside your Windows at night:

    HoloHans(®)

    You see, Microsoft's engineers have finally managed to implement a VR Hans Gruber, and make no mistake, he's there to snatch all of your codes. "I'm going to count to three point eleven, there will not be a four. Give me the code."

  13. That's all well and good. . . by smooth+wombat · · Score: 0

    but what about a holophone?

    Will we be able to use a holophone while holoporting across the globe? Or will having a holo-something inside another holo-something open a hole in the space-time continuum?

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    We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
  14. Holobaloney aside.. by orledrat · · Score: 1

    PS.. I tend to take Hololens videos with a bit of salt (since the attempts at covering up the limited FOV in the first footage) but this looks pretty damn neat for a camera rig that's not too complex, their algorithms seem to handle occlusion and such near-seamlessly.

  15. Obligatory by TuringTest · · Score: 1

    This freely available visual novel is a must-read, now that corporation-driven virtual reality is becoming real (pun not intended).

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    Singularity: a belief in the "God" idea with the "demiurge" relation inverted.
    1. Re: Obligatory by TuringTest · · Score: 1

      s/virtual reality/augmented reality.

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      Singularity: a belief in the "God" idea with the "demiurge" relation inverted.
  16. If you thought conference calls were bad... by SonicSpike · · Score: 1

    you're gonna hate this!

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    1. Re:If you thought conference calls were bad... by delt0r · · Score: 1

      I know right. How can i take a conference call in the toilet now?

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      If information wants to be free, why does my internet connection cost so much?
  17. Imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If any one of these companies used their money to solve actual problems that actually exist. This and similar intiatives are non-starters until all of the gear ceases to be a requirement and it doesn't make you vomit profusely. It's only about a kajillion times easier to use video or teleconferencing. It'll probably end up disappearing from the msinstream altogether having been relegated to being a sex toy. I'm sure the pron industry is standing at full attention. :P

  18. How long until it becomes racist? by vilanye · · Score: 1

    It will only allow you to view white supremacist meetings.

    Seriously though, where is the need for something like this? Unless you can smack the hologram and the person on the other end can feel it. That might be worth something.

    This doesn't solve any problems at all. Much like everything MS has done since Windows 8. Points for consistency.

    1. Re:How long until it becomes racist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny story...when Alexander Bell pitched his idea of a telephone to the currently-dominant telegraph companies, they said the exact same thing you just said. He was offering to build his voice-conferencing system on top of their already existing data transfer networks, to their great profit....but they thought it didn't solve any problems at all, and would be a colossal waste of money.

      So he went into business for himself, and promptly toppled their monopoly and drove them completely out of business.

      News flash: people communicate best when in-person; the more elements of such communication you can capture over a distance, the more effective (and desirable) communication will be. The only issue here is whether this step is enough of a step forward to justify the costs of use. Is the answer is "no," it is just a matter of time before the adoption-blocking issues are resolved.

  19. Help me Obi Wan! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News from the future!

    In an effort to spread Holoport technology, Microsoft are creating ambassador droids to travel around and spread the message.
    This is the second revision of the boston dynamics two (D2) prototype droid, also known as R2D2, recently acquired from google.

  20. THIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your point can't be overstated. The potential for the Hololens is amazing, but that tiny field-of-view absolutely kills it. The gesture-recognition tech, and on-board processing for wire-free use, positional sound, etc., are all rendered completely worthless by that experience-ruining tiny box that constrains all the holograms.

    Also, the holograms are too transparent; too much of whatever is behind them bleeds through them. That kinda ruins it too, but isn't the deal-killer that the limited FOV is.

  21. Virtual Hitler? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    Since Microsoft has publicly announced they're a big fan of him, will Microsoft use this to show us a virtual Hitler?

  22. Another thing they can lie to Congress about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, how many jobs will be lost and off-shored to pay for this bullshit?

    Isn't it about time "intelligent" people stopped buying Microsoft's job-destroying products?

  23. Promising too much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets see my virtual tour list:
    Secret parts of white house
    McMyrdoc base in shouth pole
    Mayan temple

    Somehow im pretty sure none of these will be available and the "anywhere" is just false marketing gimmick.

  24. Mars is a wrong use-case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Holo-portation" looks like a pretty cool heir for video chats...
    But as usual Microsoft wants to oversell. The Mars use-case is absolutely stupid due to the 20 minutes one-way communication delay...

  25. New target for data thieves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think it'll be long before data from stolen 3d recordings will be able to to be used to augment a 3d avatar allowing holographic impersonation.