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20th Anniversary of Unabomber's Arrest (abc10.com)

theodp writes: Sunday marks the 20th anniversary of the arrest of Theodore Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber, at his cabin in rural Montana. Kaczynski, a brilliant mathematician turned recluse, spread destruction and death throughout the U.S by mailing bombs to his victims, most of whom worked at UNiversities or in the Airline industry -- hence the "UNAbomber" moniker -- from 1978 until his arrest in Lincoln, MT, on April 3, 1996. For years, the only clue to his identity was a single now-iconic sketch of a shadowy, hooded figure. The big break in the case came in 1995, when David Kaczynski recognized the ramblings of the Unabomber's 35,000-word anti-technology manifesto entitled Industrial Society and its Future, which was published in the Washington Post, as those of his older brother Theodore and tipped off the FBI. (Kaczynski warns of a world of intelligent machines where "the fate of the human race would be at the mercy of the machines.") Kaczynski, now 73, is currently serving a life sentence without parole at the so-called Supermax prison in Colorado. Kaczynski's listing in the Harvard alumni directory for the class of 1962 gives his occupation as 'prisoner' and cites "eight life sentences, issued by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of California, 1998" in the awards section.

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  1. Be sure to state the entire truth, please!!!! by sgt_doom · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That Kaczynski, while at Harvard, found himself to be the unwitting test subject of the CIA's MK ULTRA type, Prof. Murray. How this may have affected the child prodigy has never been examined --- but then NO so-called American reporter in the US of A has yet to identify the CIA stooge who overrode French airport security and ushered the underwear bomber aboard the Detroit inbound airliner that day?

    1. Re:Be sure to state the entire truth, please!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's always sunny and warm, except when the imperialist west sends clouds and darkness and snow. But The Revolution's light never dims.

    2. Re:Be sure to state the entire truth, please!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How is the weather in st petersburg,,comrade?

      Only an ignorant bootlicker ( like you ) would jump to the conclusion that any possible funny business relative to the
      US government must automatically be a lie posted by some Russian person.

      The US government is well known to have participated in much evil and quite a few deliberate deceptions. Of course so
      have many other governments, but only an idiot would claim that the US government is somehow "less evil" than governments
      of other countries. The history of the war in Viet Nam is one example among many in which the US government lied to the American
      public and engaged in wholesale murder fighting a war which the US had no business even fighting.

    3. Re:Be sure to state the entire truth, please!!!! by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Surprisingly the above claim has merit!

      Chase, Alston (2003). Harvard and the Unabomber: The Education of an American Terrorist. W. W. Norton & Company. pp. 18–19. ISBN 0393020029.

      Chase A (June 1, 2000). "Harvard and the Making of the Unabomber". The Atlantic Monthly. pp. 41–65.

      I personally know that similar things were going on at major universities in Australia as recently as 20 years ago (Hi Ken).

    4. Re:Be sure to state the entire truth, please!!!! by ArylAkamov · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Before people scream MUH TINFOIL HATTERS:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      http://www.radiolab.org/story/...

      (First story)

      It is pretty likely that he was a subject of MKUltra.

    5. Re: Be sure to state the entire truth, please!!!! by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's actually a big reason Trump has so much support. I don't really like Trump but I loathe so many of the people that rant against him. They make me want to vote for him out of spite. Kind of an enemy of my enemy thing. I figure if all those rotten mother fuckers hate him then maybe there is something good about him that I'm missing.

  2. The New Luddite Challenge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    First let us postulate that the computer scientists succeed in developing intelligent machines that can do all things better than human beings can do them. In that case presumably all work will be done by vast, highly organized systems of machines and no human effort will be necessary. Either of two cases might occur. The machines might be permitted to make all of their own decisions without human oversight, or else human control over the machines might be retained.

    If the machines are permitted to make all their own decisions, we can’t make any conjectures as to the results, because it is impossible to guess how such machines might behave. We only point out that the fate of the human race would be at the mercy of the machines. It might be argued that the human race would never be foolish enough to hand over all the power to the machines. But we are suggesting neither that the human race would voluntarily turn power over to the machines nor that the machines would willfully seize power. What we do suggest is that the human race might easily permit itself to drift into a position of such dependence on the machines that it would have no practical choice but to accept all of the machines’ decisions. As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won’t be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide.

    On the other hand it is possible that human control over the machines may be retained. In that case the average man may have control over certain private machines of his own, such as his car or his personal computer, but control over large systems of machines will be in the hands of a tiny elite – just as it is today, but with two differences. Due to improved techniques the elite will have greater control over the masses; and because human work will no longer be necessary the masses will be superfluous, a useless burden on the system. If the elite is ruthless they may simply decide to exterminate the mass of humanity. If they are humane they may use propaganda or other psychological or biological techniques to reduce the birth rate until the mass of humanity becomes extinct, leaving the world to the elite. Or, if the elite consists of soft-hearted liberals, they may decide to play the role of good shepherds to the rest of the human race. They will see to it that everyone’s physical needs are satisfied, that all children are raised under psychologically hygienic conditions, that everyone has a wholesome hobby to keep him busy, and that anyone who may become dissatisfied undergoes “treatment” to cure his “problem.” Of course, life will be so purposeless that people will have to be biologically or psychologically engineered either to remove their need for the power process or make them “sublimate” their drive for power into some harmless hobby. These engineered human beings may be happy in such a society, but they will most certainly not be free. They will have been reduced to the status of domestic animals.

    -Theodore Kaczynski

    1. Re:The New Luddite Challenge by theodp · · Score: 2

      Bill Gates on dangers of artificial intelligence: "I don't understand why some people are not concerned"

      I think we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. If I were to guess like what our biggest existential threat is, it's probably that. So we need to be very careful with the artificial intelligence. Increasingly scientists think there should be some regulatory oversight maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don't do something very foolish. With artificial intelligence we are summoning the demon. In all those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water, it's like yeah he's sure he can control the demon. Didn't work out.
      --Elon Musk

      I am in the camp that is concerned about super intelligence. First the machines will do a lot of jobs for us and not be super intelligent. That should be positive if we manage it well. A few decades after that though the intelligence is strong enough to be a concern. I agree with Elon Musk and some others on this and don't understand why some people are not concerned.
      --Bill Gate

    2. Re:The New Luddite Challenge by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2

      Why the Future Doesn't Need Us by Bill Joy (on the unabomber's list)

    3. Re:The New Luddite Challenge by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Machines can put 90% of the human race out of work ...

      Too late. That already happened during the mechanization of agriculture in the late 19th and early 20th century.

      ... and that will have a huge impact on humanity.

      Indeed. Average incomes doubled and doubled again as productivity soared.

  3. The incredibly expanding mountain cabin by flyingfsck · · Score: 2

    This guy's shack was searched multiple times and each time the police retrieved a treasure trove of incriminating documents. How all the crap would fit in the small shack and how they could have missed it in the previous searches, was never explained though.

    --
    Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
    1. Re:The incredibly expanding mountain cabin by orledrat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe it was stored on his iPhone, which they couldn't unlock until recently?

  4. Re:Other Still-Timely Topics by theodp · · Score: 2

    Off-topic? All from linked-to manifesto, and all issues today, IMO.

  5. Re:French airport security by colinwb · · Score: 2
    • From memory: Austerlitz 1805, Marne 1914, and the French held the Germans at Verdun 1916, which counts as a strategic victory, because it negated what the chief of the German general staff, Falkenhayn, was trying to do.
    • From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M... Hastings 1066, etc, etc
    • There is also the small matter of the large amount of assistance that the French gave to the American revolutionaries in 1775-1783 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...