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Jeff Bezos Says Amazon Will Unveil a New Kindle Next Week (the-digital-reader.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Amazon founder Jeff Bezos said on Monday that the next Kindle will be unveiled next week. Bezos posted on Twitter that an "all-new, top of the line Kindle is almost ready". Calling it the 8th-generation Kindle, Bezos promised to share more details next week but didn't say anything more than that. Other sources say that the new Kindle will have Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and 3G connectivity options, and come with a case which has its own battery

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  1. pre-pre marketing by The-Ixian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It will be our slimmest, lightest, most elegant Kindle we have ever made.

    Just announce it when you are done... all this manufactured excitement these companies try to create is seriously annoying.

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    1. Re:pre-pre marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I find it helpful. I was pondering buying a Kindle. Now I'll wait for the new models.

      The current generation went on sale today. Might want to rethink that position.

  2. Not news by Aighearach · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This isn't news. Next week, when they unveil something? Then it will be "news." Currently it is "futures" not "news."

    This is not an event we would be expected to be interested in attending in person, so there is no reason to treat the mere scheduling of the event as news.

  3. Is it really a proper Kindle? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 2

    Or yet another Android tablet with an LCD/TFT/IPS/light-shining display?

    Where are the colour e-ink/e-paper displays?

  4. Re:Yawn! by chispito · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless it makes my coffee in the morning and is great in bed at night, I'm not really interested. I have the Kindle app on my tablet already so I don't need a crippled Kindle.

    It sounds like your solution may be crippled in bright sunlight. Or crippled by short battery life. It's also likely crippled by its comparative weight. You're basically giving in to all the software/licensing drawbacks of using a hardware Kindle, but getting none of the benefits.

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  5. A backup battery? Wow! by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, I know. You grab your Kindle, remove the charging cable, step out the door, and then, quick as a flash, two weeks later, you get a low battery. Who hasn't had to put up with this. Only the other month, I was kidnapped, and when they released me a week later, my Kindle's battery was barely half full! What if my wife hadn't paid the ransom? I'd have been left with nothing to read!

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  6. the kindles biggest competition by nimbius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being an avid bookworm I cant say I like or hate the kindle one way or another. I just dont really understand them. The kindles largest competition, at least for me, is the fact that amazon sells thousands of titles I want to read for a penny plus shipping used. Why buy new when you can get a perfectly good used title from a reseller?

    Sure, sure, kindles hold thousands of books, but so does my bookshelf. for my heavy duty questions theres the internet and a laptop, and titles licensed under Creative Commons fit just as well on it as they do the kindle. if i break a kindle, its going to cost about a hundred bones to replace...but if i break a used copy of Dune or leave it on a plane I can just reorder it from my phone with oneclick or finish it at the library. And if i finish a title on a flight or on a vacation I can trade it at a local book store for credit, and pick up something else Id like to read. In all seriousness: can you trade kindle books? I dont know.

    Then theres the batteries and charging. I know kindle runs for quite some time on a single charge, but I've got books older than 70 years that I still thumb through with ease. Whats the total life of a kindle? Do they trade them in/up? can you swap the battery like a smoke detector? Lastly, what happens if i sell my kindle? can you sell them? do the titles transfer?

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    1. Re:the kindles biggest competition by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

      My bookshelves probably have hundreds of books (not a library, but I've got several bookshelves), but that's part of the problem. It's not easy to find a specific book in all that (I had literally been looking for several of my books for years, only finding them when I moved from that house), and have you ever tried taking a full bookshelf on vacation? Like the above poster, I love dead-tree books, but I just don't have enough room for any more.

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    2. Re:the kindles biggest competition by Whorhay · · Score: 2

      Second hand is pretty much a loss with Kindles. It is easy enough to get digital copies for anything but I don't think anyone sells 2nd hand digital copies. You could in theory buy 2nd hand and then digitize your copy but that's a good bit of work and equipment you'll need. I keep thinking about it and the wife keeps telling me there's no space for it.

      Bookselves, I got married and now instead of an entire wall of shelves, I'm allotted one and a half shelves. While my kindle does have limited storage space it can hold far more than my shelves reasonably could. And my kindle keeps it all neatly organized and searchable.

      The kindle definitely represents a minor investment in hardware which can then be at risk. That said in the 20+ years that I've been reading a lot I've only ever lost one book and water damaged another. In my entire life I've only lost one pair of eyeglasses, I've had a prescription since I was 4. Maybe some people are more prone to losing or breaking things, but it hasn't been an issue for me.

      Trading ebooks can be done readily enough I suppose. All of the titles I own are available and stored on my devices as DRM free files that can be shuffled around however you like. I suppose there are DRM'd titles out there, and probably simple methods of striping that DRM. So far as legal ways of trading ebook licenses, I have no clue, though if I bothered to read the legal wording of amazons terms of use there is probably something about being prohibited from reselling or trading ebooks.

      A kindle isn't an ebook, it is a reader device for ebooks. The kindle I own today is unlikely to be functional in 70 years. However there is no reason to suppose that I won't have ready access to all of my ebooks that I've purchased or procured in 70 years. They are largely just text files with some formatting. At the most I would expect that at some point they might have to be run through a bit of software to be converted to a more modern format. In the meantime though I can have and store as many copies of those files as I like, in whatever fashion I like.

      Kindles are cheap enough and killer features rare enough that I don't know that there would be much point in a trade in/up program. Swapping a battery would undoubtedly be more complicated than the same procedure for a smoke detector, but I don't see why you couldn't do it though you'd probably need some special plastic pry tools and a youtube tutorial.

      If you sell your kindle the new owner would have a couple options. When you setup a kindle you register it to an Amazon account. The new owner could register it to themselves, at which point the device may wipe whatever content it held and sync with the new owners account. I'm not really sure about it wiping, but the new owner could just hook it up with a usb cable and download everything they wanted to keep, that you left on there. Alternatively the new owner could leave it registered to you, and just manually load whatever ebooks they want via usb cable and sync with your Amazon content. Again, so far as I know there isn't any officially authorized way to transfer legal ownership of ebook files.

    3. Re:the kindles biggest competition by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

      I use a Kindle for a few reasons, mostly related to convenience, or simply what I consider to be an improved form factor. I enjoy the built-in screen light, which makes reading in less than ideal light more pleasant, and I find the Kindle nicer to hold than a physical book. I also enjoy being able to access my library not just when using my Kindle, but *any* modern computing device (tablet, phone, PC). For instance, I often use my Kindle PC reader for technical books, and when I'm out an about and don't happen to have my Kindle with me, I can use my phone app. It even syncs to the last page read, which is pretty convenient.

      To answer your questions:

      Total life of a Kindle? Unknown, I swapped my original Kindle out for a Kindle Paperwhite, and three years later it's still like new. I'd guess a Kindle should easily last five to ten years with a bit of care. Given that they only cost about $100, that's not too bad of a cost amortized. I haven't heard about any sort of trade-in program, but since they're fairly inexpensive, I wouldn't expect it. Trade-ins really only make sense with rather expensive items.

      Swap the battery? I don't believe the batteries on the newest ones are "officially" user-replaceable, but a quick search indicates it's reasonably simple to do so, at least with 1st gen paperwhites.

      If you sell your Kindle, you'd want to deactivate it first, as it's tied to your account. Titles don't transfer, nor can you trade them - at least not the ones you buy from Amazon. You still own all your books, which are stored in your Amazon account, so you can still continue to access them from your PC, phone, tablet, whatever.

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    4. Re:the kindles biggest competition by TheLongshot · · Score: 2

      Because I live in a townhouse and I have a limited amount of room for stuff. Books take up a tremendous amount of space. Digital books help fight the clutter. Also, when I travel, all I need is to carry one slim device rather than multiple books which also take up space.

      As for price, I rarely buy books from Amazon for full price. There are many sources for cheap/free books out there that I am not going to have a strong need to spend a lot for books for a long time.

    5. Re:the kindles biggest competition by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm in the same boat. I live in a house

      Make up your mind.

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    6. Re:the kindles biggest competition by FaxeTheCat · · Score: 2

      > I just dont really understand them.

      When I want to read a book, I usually want to read it NOW. Which I can do. Buy on Amazon, turn on WiFi on the Kindle (usually off to save on the batteries), and a few secods later, it is there. And a few more mouse clicks, it is on my wife's Kindle as well. And I do not need extra space in my luggage to carry the book. Or all the other ones.

    7. Re:the kindles biggest competition by FaxeTheCat · · Score: 2

      > Whats the total life of a kindle? Do they trade them in/up? can you swap the battery like a smoke detector?

      I have a Kindle which is close to 10 years. No problems with the battery. And as the Kindle cost less than a decent bookshelf (and a fraction of a decent phone or tablet), what is the problem?

      And, btw, how many free books can you pick up in physical format? There are literally thousands of classical books out there at no cost in electronic format.

  7. Re:Yawn! by Whorhay · · Score: 2

    I keep my Kindle in the car I drive to work everyday. When I take my sanity/lunch break I read while I eat. When the weather is nice, it's great to sit outside and enjoy reading a book. The crazy battery life is very handy as I can leave it in the car for a month at least between charges, it's one less thing to remember everyday. I can definitely see the draw of a tablet, but I also consider the Kindle to be cheap enough for a single use device.

  8. Re: Yawn! by joh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought this until I got a Kindle. Not staring into a lamp and not using a computer while reading is much better. You're reading a book and looking at friendly text and nothing else. Also the battery will be as you left it even days later. E-readers have their merits. Don't scoff at them.

  9. Re:Yawn! by chispito · · Score: 2

    An Amazon shill wrote:

    It's also likely crippled by its comparative weight.

    So somehow carrying 2 devices is lighter than one ? Seriously dude, it's crippled? really? Grow the fuck up fan boy.

    Dear AC,
    When you read a book instead of just carrying it around on your person, you have to hold it. Other device(s) have no bearing on this.

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  10. Re:Yawn! by kuzb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    E-ink beats a tablet display for reading any day of the week and twice on sunday. In addition, you simply can't beat the battery life.

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  11. Re:Yawn! by chispito · · Score: 2

    There's no indication that this will be a reintroduction of e-Ink displays to the Kindle line. This will be another Kindle Fire type device - a general use tablet running a crippled version of Android with Amazon's tracking and spying in place of Google's.

    I don't know, "8th generation Kindle" seems to indicate the e-ink lineage. https://www.amazon.com/gp/help...

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  12. I bet it won't have physical buttons. by damnbunni · · Score: 2

    The reason I didn't get a Kindle when my Cybook Opus broke was the lack of page-turn buttons. I've used a touchscreen Kindle. It drove me nuts.

    Tap for next page. No? Tap. TAP. taptaptap. Okay th- no that was TWO pages. AUGH.

    I wound up getting a Boyue T61. It's got an e-ink screen with a light, page-turn buttons, and it can handle all the common ebook formats - ePub, MobiPocket, PDF, cbz/cbr, and so on.

    It doesn't have the Play Store but the Amazon Appstore and the Goodereader store install, so you can even use it to read Kindle and Nook books.

    Running non-reader Android apps is iffy; they usually run but an e-ink screen just isn't suitable. (Trying to watch a video is hilariously bad.)

    The only downside is battery life compared to a simple e-reader. I get about a week out of it. But I wasn't able to find a plain reader that has both a light and buttons.

  13. Re:E-ink vs IPS/OLED? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

    If you want comic books, forget e-ink. It does render graphics slowly and with annoying fades, you lose the colors, and even monochrome comics won't be as stark and crisp.

    I have no problem with e-ink for general reading. The page-render time is about the same as turning a physical page, the text is highly readable and the contrast is good. But not comics.