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The 'Human Computer' Behind the Moon Landing Was a Black Woman (thedailybeast.com)

Reader bricko writes: The 'Human Computer' Behind the Moon Landing Was a black woman (video). She calculated the trajectory of man's first trip to the moon by hand, and was such an accurate mathematician that John Glenn asked her to double-check NASA's computers. To top it off, she did it all as a black woman in the 1950s and 60s, when women at NASA were not even invited to meetings. And you've probably never heard of her. Meet Katherine Johnson, the African American woman who earned the nickname 'the human computer' at NASA during its space race golden age.

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  1. Link? by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm curious, was there supposed to be a link in the summary?
    A link to an interesting and relevant story about Katherine Johnson...
    Or were we supposed to just Google or Wiki her?

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    1. Re:Link? by _anomaly_ · · Score: 3, Informative

      For some reason the link is on the main page, but not when you view the article. Here it is.

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    2. Re:Link? by MobSwatter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The Senior Statustition on the X-15 with North American Aviation was also a woman, her name was Helen Stratton/Perault and was my grandmother on my mother's side.

    3. Re:Link? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Use mathematics to debunk supersticians.

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  2. Computers by rupert.applin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's interesting how quickly what was a job title for someone, became so quickly a term used solely the device. Where in the 1940's a "computer" was someone who did math, then by the 1960's, someone who did the same job as her peers 20 years prior was given that as a nickname. http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/hist...

    1. Re:Computers by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, if history is any indication, any job ending in "er" will be replaced by machines.

      Computer, driver, teacher, waiter, progra-GO BACK TO WORK, SLAVES!

    2. Re:Computers by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Funny

      I guess that all the doctors are safe then.

      Also the proctologists, because who really wants to deal with assholes all day?

    3. Re:Computers by GuB-42 · · Score: 2

      Hooker too?

    4. Re:Computers by bughunter · · Score: 2

      I was going to reply to the GP that it will truly be the end of humanity when machines start programming themselves.

      Then you had to make it even worse...

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  3. I haven't heard of her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I be fair, I couldn't name anyone else on the Apollo engineering team, either.

  4. It always seems kinda racist to me ... by cablepokerface · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ... to write these things as being remarkable. She's black and a woman. Impossibru, she must be as dumb as a door nail!

    I have no doubt they have good intentions writing this, though. But still.

    1. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Impossibru, she must be as dumb as a door nail!

      Well yeah, it sounds stupid today. But there was a time when that sentence was "common knowledge".

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    2. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      She's not black, she's even whiter than Michael Jackson: picture.
      Maybe she is of African descent, I don't know. But if they want to call her black she should have dark skin...

    3. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by dissy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... to write these things as being remarkable. She's black and a woman. Impossibru, she must be as dumb as a door nail!

      You should probably read a history book or two before making such a stupid comment.

      Of course it was remarkable in 1940!

      Women we're not given jobs doing anything more than trivial tasks, and black people typically were NOT given jobs by white people at all because actually paying them anything was more than their labor was seen as worth.

      You do realize it wasn't even illegal to discriminate against blacks or women until 1964 right?
      It was perfectly common back then to not hire either women or black people and to outright tell them it was because they were a women or black, and they just had to suck up the injustice of it without any recourse.

      The fact she was both brings down the wrath of two groups of discrimination that ran very strong, and continued to do so for decades beyond that point in time, yet did such amazing mathematical work, should give you a slight idea of the effort and work she had to put into her life and career to even get to that point.

      The fact she had a job what so ever was pretty exceptional, let alone a job typically only given to college graduates, which blacks weren't welcome to attend for the most part, and was again perfectly legal to not allow them to, and as a woman the fact her skills knowledge and ambitions were more than "I want to sew or bring the man of the office coffee" was fairly unheard of.

      Unheard of... as evidenced by the fact you and most people haven't heard of her.

      Also the very fact stories like this are so rare is not an indication of how "behind the times" the author is, but a testament to exactly how rare such a situation was at the time.

      Just because you haven't experienced or witnessed discrimination since the year of your birth to now, doesn't mean it was anything close to how it was in the past.

      Again I can't stress enough, you need to read some history if for no other reason than to learn your limits and not make such authoritative sounding yet factually incorrect stupid statements.

    4. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by cablepokerface · · Score: 2

      I'm well aware of the history. As is any sane person, obviously.

      See, you're doing it wrong. And you're missing entirely why. If you (and many others) keep pointing to history instead of looking forward and keep pointing to racial differences while being well intentioned you're actually keeping them alive. Much more so than actual racists, who are intellectually easier to ignore.

      If we, as people, have the discipline to raise 1 or 2 generations of people who aren't told how truely remarkable it is when a black person does something, they won't see it as remarkable and just view it as normal. google 'morgan freeman black history'. He says it best; stop talking about it. Stop talking about how black history is somehow separate from white history. It is American history.

      Now, having said that, I agree this strategy will cause some historical people (like this woman) to get less credit than they deserve, because only an idiot would argue it was just as hard for her than it was a white male.

      But as long as we keep getting stuck in that mud, we're not getting anywhere.

  5. Madlib for future similar posts and stories by bigdady92 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good for who did during .

    That way we can get all the outrage and praise in all at once.

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  6. She wasn't the only one by ihtoit · · Score: 5, Informative

    There was a pool of women (and men) at NASA who were ALL referred to as "computers". NASA didn't start using electronic computers for flight dynamics calculations until 1962, and continued to rely on the pool to crosscheck the electronic calculations until 1984.

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  7. on-board Flight Software by kairis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Margaret Hamilton wrote the on-board flight software.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    To me, all of them are great scientists, regardless of race.

    1. Re:on-board Flight Software by istartedi · · Score: 2

      I've never heard of her. I got off on a bit of a googling tangent, and found the company she started, Hamilton Technologies. They claim to have this thing called Universal Systems Language that incorporates all the lessons learned from developing the Apollo software. Maybe it does, but it's a proprietary language. By no means am I a free software zealot; but this looks like a classic case of holding on too tightly. I could not even find a "hello world" example in that language. Does anybody use it? I suppose it's possible that it might be entrenched in some obscure corners of aerospace, military, top-secret projects. Does anybody here have experience with their systems? Can you tell us without killing us?

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  8. Uhhhh by hercludes · · Score: 2

    All I can think is if she's going to be remembered because of her work at NASA /or/ that she just because she was a black woman. In other words, would this video, this article, her popularity, etc etc, exist if she were not a black woman? Hmm.

  9. Re:So... by kheldan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We have B.E.T. (Black Entertainment Television) on cable tv, but if someone made W.E.T. you can bet it'll be called racist.

    We already do. It's called Spike. :p

    While you're at it, how about 'Lifetime: Television for Women'? For that matter, in a world ostensibly full of equality, and race/gender/sexual orientation blindness, do we need special programming for {insert special interest group here}? Because we live in a world full of racism, bigotry, sexism, and inequality-in-general, that's why. If we actually lived in a world without those horrible qualities, we wouldn't have the vast majority of the problems of the world in general that we're seeing right now, either.

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  10. So affirmative action isn't necessary? by swb · · Score: 2

    If she could get so good at math back then, why anyone should be able to do it now, right? We don't need to worry about the so-called education gap or take a bunch of extra steps to help black people overcome so-called obstacles because obviously if she was able to do it then, it should be much easier for even less skilled people to do it now.

  11. Ah, it's a CASE tool by istartedi · · Score: 2

    OK, googled around a bit more. There's no "hello world" because it's a CASE tool--design abstractly in the GUI, dump out in the language of your choice.

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  12. Re:So... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Isn't it racism?

    Fox News doesn't want to disturb their audience with the idea that black people are smart. Or even capable of being the President of the United States.

  13. I see the RACs are out in Full force today. by IcarusMoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I mean, if you are bold enough to spout racially regressive ideology, maybe attach your mostly anonymizing screen name to it. Many of the Anonymous Coward comments in this thread are part of the reason why the accomplishments of minorities and women continue to be seen as remarkable. Racism and sexism are endemic within tech industries, they are part of what drive the high turnover rate for minorities. I for one, choose not to work in private industry as I don't find the casual racism that exists there conducive to my quality of life. You ACs want to tell us one more thing about the negro?

    1. Re:I see the RACs are out in Full force today. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've worked in tech for a few years now, and while I've never heard anyone advocating discrimination against women, blacks or hispanics, I have frequently heard people advocating discrimination against men, whites and asians. So I have to agree with you that racism and sexism are endemic within tech industries.

      Fortunately, it seems that a majority still believe that people should be treated the same, regardless of their race or sex.

  14. Re:So... by butchersong · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These days it is patronizing but back then I imagine it was fairly remarkable but, maybe not. Looking into this, many of the "computers" back then were women. What I do find slightly offensive is the notion that she was "black". The woman appears more caucasian than african but our society treats anyone with even a smattering of african blood as "black". This strikes me as deeply racist.

  15. Re:Necessary? by kamakazi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is it really necessary to bring the gender component into this?

    She is a brilliant person who was instrumental in our space program. Isn't that enough?

    There, fixed that for you.

    Seriously, as human beings, the people we look up to and emulate, the people who inspire us, are people with whom we identify in some way. The details are what allow us to identify with them.

    The particular person in this story is more readily inspirational to women, and to blacks, because they can identify with those facets of her identity.

    There are other details of her life that would add additional groups that could identify with her, people from her town, people who went to her school, people who share her hobbies, etc.

    If I reduce all people who do remarkable things to just 'persons' they are all amazing, but I can not identify with or emulate them, that requires details, handles for my emotions to grab on to.

    Currently I am looking for remarkable things done by mid 40s out of shape men, because I can identify with that. That means I can do great things too.

    On a tangent this is also why biographies are crucial reading. History is only history until you can identify with the individuals who made it.

    So in this case, you aren't black, or a woman, so it doesn't apply? Maybe you need to take 20 minutes and see if there is something you have in common with this person.

    (wiki......) Damn this woman was the bomb! She did a bunch of inspirational and important stuff before she went to work at NASA. Went to college to be a teacher, went back to grad school to desegregate it, spent 15+ years teaching, all before deciding to be a mathematician.

    Not really a lot for me to identify with, wikipedia doesn't have enough details. She lost her first husband to brain cancer, there is another detail that means something to a specific group of people. She sang in the church choir, that is something to some people. She had three daughters. I have a daughter. There are definitely things that she and I share in the parenting of daughters.

    Wow, raising three daughters with energy left to accomplish things. I identify with that.

    So is it really necessary to bring race or gender into this? Yes, it really is. Without them she is an achiever, with them she is a role model.

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  16. It means she’s awesomer than you. by Theovon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually it IS amazing that a person who is BLACK and a WOMAN could get into such an important position back in the 1950’s and 1960’s. Today we recognize it as foolish and stupid to prejudge someone’s abilit to DO MATH (for instance) on the basis of gender or skin color. But back then?

    What this tells us is that she’s fucking awesome, more awesome than you and me. She’s so awesome that people at NASA in an era that only valued white men simply were unable to deny the level of her skill. To break through the prejudice required that she have skill way beyond what a white male would have needed to get into the same job.

    So yeah. Kudos to this woman for her intelligence, skill, and persistence in an era that would have otherwise begrudged her a job as a toilet cleaner.

  17. Re:So... by quantaman · · Score: 2

    These days it is patronizing but back then I imagine it was fairly remarkable but, maybe not. Looking into this, many of the "computers" back then were women. What I do find slightly offensive is the notion that she was "black". The woman appears more caucasian than african but our society treats anyone with even a smattering of african blood as "black". This strikes me as deeply racist.

    As to whether she's black I'd ask if she self-identifies as black.

    As for the focus on female humans computers and her race you can be certain in a Hollywood movie based on the moon landing the mathematicians calculating the orbits would either be absent from the script or a bunch of white guys. It's exactly what people mean when they talk about "whitewashing" in Hollywood, these stories are important to point out that even in the past there were prominent women and minorities.

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  18. Re:So... by nbauman · · Score: 2

    As to whether she's black I'd ask if she self-identifies as black.

    I think the more significant question is whether the bus drivers in Virginia identified her as black.

    http://www.visionaryproject.or...

    On the bus ride to this first assignment (in Marion, VA), Katherine says she had her first experience with racism. She says when they crossed from West Virginia into Virginia, the bus stopped and all of the Black people had to move to the back, which Katherine did. Later, they had to change buses. All of the white passengers were allowed on the bus, but the Blacks were put into taxis. Katherine says the driver said âoeAll you colored folk, come over here.â But she would not move until he asked her politely.

  19. Re:Wow. Woman, black, empowered, in STEM field... by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 2

    You might want to take your head out of your ass and RTFA:

    “I just happened to be working with guys,” she said, “and when they had briefings I asked permission to go. They said, ‘The girls don’t usually go.’ I said, ‘Is there a law?’ And they said, ‘No.’ So then my boss said, ‘Let her go.’”

    Did you catch the line: ‘The girls don’t usually go.’

    Fucking moron.