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Donald Trump's 'Nuclear' Uncle (newyorker.com)

An anonymous reader writes: In 1936 a reporter watched Donald Trump's uncle John, an MIT professor of engineering, as he was struck by two high-voltage sparks while demonstrating the grounding of an new X-ray machine which could generate a million volts of power. And immediately after Nikola Tesla's death in 1943, the FBI called John G. Trump to review the scientific papers Tesla left behind, according to a new article in The New Yorker. They joke that now John's nephew Donald "seldom sounds as ungrounded as when he invokes Professor Trump, the younger brother of his father, Fred," while campaigning for president. But while comparing the candidate's statements to the historical record, they conclude that "John Trump really does seem to have been a brilliant scientist," noting that he performed both radar and short-wave research for the allies during World War II and helped design medical X-ray machines.

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  1. Chaotic Systems by BitZtream · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Trump is surely a very intelligent person.

    However, a lot of things go into making us who we are by the time we get to his age, and even the tiniest of silly little things 40 years ago can cause an otherwise intelligent person to pick up some silly and outright wrong logic.

    Its all a matter of perspective and his has simply had some bad data feeds which resulted in him becoming what he is today.

    The man is not stupid and he is not 'wrong' in every way. He is wrong IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF IMPORTANT WAYS, but not every one.

    Replace the word Trump in this post with Clinton, Sanders, YourLastName and it still applies all the same.

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    1. Re:Chaotic Systems by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Before the replies about it come in, you do realize the point of posting this on the slashdot front page was to get page views as people ranting about Trump and the political flame wars that follow.

      At no point did anyone involved in posting this story actually give a fuck that Fred Trump was a major asset to our species. Lets remember where we are and stay focused.

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    2. Re:Chaotic Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Try a million watts of power, but more likely, a million volts of potential.

    3. Re:Chaotic Systems by wallsg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's really sad is that now you don't have "opponents", you have "enemies".

      Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill were two men with diametrically opposed beliefs and politics, but they did not hate each other. They were opponents, not enemies. They respected each other and were friendly, though not really the "friends" that some people see in the glow of nostalgia. They both believed in doing the best thing for the country and each knew that's what the other was trying to do too. They just had opposing views of what was best.

      That doesn't happen today. People seem to believe that things are a zero-sum game where the only way they can profit is to take from you and the that only way you can profit is to take from them. If they won, then you lost. Nothing is a Win-Win. You must crush your enemy. (And probably drive them before you so you can hear the lamentations of their women.)

      When asked about what "enemies" she'd made in her political carrier that she was proud of, one of Hillary's answers was "the Republicans." (The Republicans aren't much better, unfortunately.) Now why on Earth should anyone who considers themself a Republican have any trust in or respect for someone who says that you and they are "enemies"? Even crazy Uncle Joe [Biden] doesn't consider Republicans as "enemies" (though I doubt they're the "friends" he claims they are).

    4. Re:Chaotic Systems by quantaman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Trump is surely a very intelligent person.

      I don't know about this.

      Scott Adams seems to think Trump is a "master persuader" and I do agree he seems to have some genuine talent to appeal to his base that other candidates lack but I don't think it's necessarily intelligence.

      I really think the core of his appeal is just saying the first thing that comes to mind and not care about offending people. That's why he's able to come up with memorable insults (or uncommon yet popular policy positions), it's because he's saying the things everyone has noticed but hasn't said out of politeness or practicality. I think the reason we haven't seen other people use this strategy is the problem he's hitting now. Offending so many people creates a ceiling of support and it's really tough for him to get more votes (or have a future in politics if that were his career).

      As for his intellect in general, I think he's at least average intelligence, he did get a university degree and probably became pretty competent in real estate and some aspects of business, but otherwise I don't see any evidence of high intelligence, especially not in what he says.

      The fact he shares 25% of his genes with a smart physicist is an interesting tidbit, though it doesn't really mean he's smart himself.

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    5. Re:Chaotic Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Do not confuse the Trump you see on TV with who he really is. That is a fabrication. He says crazy off the wall things to draw attention to the fact he wants to negotiate. He has written whole books on the fact he likes to do that.

      He is making you think past the sale with anchoring. It is a sales technique.

      Take for example his 'i am going to build a wall'. It is ridiculous and stupid on all levels. It is plainly stupid, he knows it. However it makes you think what could we do to stop the wall what sorts of things can we do to make other barriers. It makes Mexico think 'he might cut off our aid we better do *something*'. That is what he is doing.

      Another example is NATO. He is saying he wants to pull out. That will make Europe think 'oh wait we actually do like having a military'. We are basically subsidizing Europe's military. It is a key component of the Marshall plan. After two wars our leaders were tired of being brought into a fight and wanted to smash it out before it started. It is one of the reasons it is much harder to get a gun in Europe. Not because they are socially advanced. We defanged Europe. Trump is trying to flip that around and make them pay for it.

      Basic sales. Do not open with what you want. Ask for the moon. If you are trying to get the moon ask for the solar system. Work your way back into what you want plus some. If you are not negotiating for the moon then you are the sucker. It is used to see what your minimum bid is. If your minimum is nothing then you do not want to negotiate and he has no need of you.

  2. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Volt isn't a unit of power..

    1. Re:Meh by Streetlight · · Score: 2

      Volt isn't a unit of power..

      Exactly. What was the current? No current, no power.

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    2. Re:Meh by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2

      I you take the gadient of a potential, you get force.

  3. Anti-Trump insults masquerading as "jokes". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can we please stop with the submissions that contain anti-Trump insults disguised as "jokes"? There was just one a few hours ago, for crying out loud!

    Look, I don't support Donald Trump, and I don't particularly like his policies. But the last thing I want to read when I come to Slashdot is some snide swipe at him.

    He clearly represents the views held by a lot of Americans, perhaps even the majority of them, even if they can't come out and admit this publicly. He will likely be the next president.

    If it weren't for that pathetic, childish jab at Donald Trump, this would be a really interesting submission about a very interesting scientific figure from history. But that stupid partisan attack ruins the submission.

    Please, Slashdot, can we stop with this nonsense? Can we have objective submissions that aren't peppered with anti-Trump messages?

    1. Re:Anti-Trump insults masquerading as "jokes". by Xabraxas · · Score: 5, Informative

      He will likely be the next president.

      Not likely buddy. Whenever I hear this I am reminded how the average American is not very dialed into politics. Trump is underwater nationally in likability in EVERY demographic. 70% of women won't vote for him. That is devastating in itself. I'm guessing this is one of the reason's he generates so much conversation. There are a lot of people out there who think this is more than a sideshow and they need to be brought to reality. This is JUST A SIDESHOW. Unless Trump wins 1237 delegates he WILL NOT be the nominee. It's not going to happen. I think he will have a tough time getting the necessary delegates now that the establishment is getting behind another guy who will never be president.

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    2. Re: Anti-Trump insults masquerading as "jokes". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Actually, the GOP has discussed options to not recognize Trump even if he hits the delegate criteria.

      The GOP ultimately has control of who they want, and they don't have to recognize the voters, just like the electoral college for voting in the President.

      It's an oligarchy, and voting is mostly a farce. "Here are a few candidates we're ok with, you can pick between them. Oh, you want someone else? Nope."

  4. Re:Good people, smart people, bad people, dumb peo by footNipple · · Score: 2

    Not sure what you're implying here, but you would have a very hard time convincing me that, somehow, Donald Trump is not an intelligent and decent person. Despite some of his wacky outbursts, he is in no way unfit to be president of the US, and might be exactly what this country needs right now.

  5. Re:Yeah, McCain by JoshuaZ · · Score: 2

    If you want to criticize McCain for his policy stances then by all means do so. The relevant point that decent people don't do is claiming that because McCain was a POW that this is somehow a problem and an indication that he isn't a "winner." That's reprehensible.

  6. Re:Or This Guy by Idou · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah? How about this?

    When America sends its people to become Trump supporters, they’re not sending their best. . . .They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. They're high school drop outs and white supremacists. And some, I assume, are good people.

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  7. Re:Or This Guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about this: When criminals break the law big time, they hop the border. US murderers, rapists, and pedophiles go to Mexico or Canada. Mexican murders, rapists and pedophiles along our border come to the USA.

    How about that?

    Have you ever actually talked to a Mexican person in Mexico? The LOVE Trump's plan to build a wall and, aside from their corrupt elite, the people want to help us build a better wall (we already have a shitty wall in place that doesn't work). You see, their police and government are corrupted by cartels who run drugs to the USA and so building a better wall will cut off the cartel funding and help Make Mexico Great Again.

    Trump also wants to make Syria great again. He's a nationalist. Trump wants to make all nations great so that refugees don't have to flee their countries in the first place. Oh, but Liberals don't give a fuck about the plight of the Mexican people. This is because migrants typically vote left, so they want as many immigrants as possible, and voting stat! Fuck their poor standard of living, and screw our poor out of jobs too, anything for a fucking vote, all the better if it keeps the masses powerless and in check.

  8. Old dead white men by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 3, Informative

    George Washington makes the case that "the alternate domination" of one party over another and coinciding efforts to exact revenge upon their opponents have led to horrible atrocities, and "is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism." From Washington's perspective and judgment, the tendency of political parties toward permanent despotism is because they eventually and "gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...