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How San Francisco Hazed a Tech Bro (backchannel.com)

An anonymous reader writes: In December 2013 San Francisco's tension with its surging tech class reached a breaking point. Protesters swarmed Google buses. They stood in front of Twitter carrying a coffin labeled "Affordable Housing." Google glassholes were on the rise. In the midst of this, the CEO and founder of AngelHack posted a rant about the homeless. "In downtown SF the degenerates gather like hyenas, spit, urinate, taunt you, sell drugs, get rowdy, they act like they own the center of the city," Greg Gopman wrote. He thought he was becoming a thought leader. Instead, the entire city turned against him. Reviled and suddenly unemployable, Gopman spent a quixotic year spinning up businesses to solve homelessness. His journey is weirdly emblematic of today's startup-fueled San Francisco.

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  1. The situation in SF... by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 4, Informative

    The situation in SF really is, pretty bad.

    I'm not even sure what the solution is anymore now that I lived here for a while and see it every day first hand.

    I've lived in large Australian and New Zealand cities, but the homeless epidemic here is just on a level you couldn't believe or imagine without being here and seeing it for yourself.

    Prices and rents won't ever go down again imo, and the homeless refuse to leave and only increase in number every ear... shit will get to a real breaking point before long.

    Not sure I want to be here when that happens.

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  2. Re:As a tourist... by trout007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was the left that pushed to clear out the mental hospitals. You cannot be held against your will for long if you haven't done anything wrong. To be fair there were people held against their will when they posed no danger and were just odd or embarrassing for their family. There needs to be something in between. Maybe need a jury trial every year or so to see if the person can stay committed or something similar.

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  3. Re:Seattle has the same issue by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Send them to the middle of nowhere 100 miles east where they won't be bothering anyone.

    Send them back to Las Vegas!

    For years, the Las Vegas Rawson-Neal Psychiatric Hospital, Nevada's primary state mental facility, gave discharged patients a bus ticket out of town. Poor and mentally ill, they ended up homeless in cities around the country—especially in California, where more than 500 psychiatric patients were sent over a five year period.

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/10/nevada-settles-busing-homeless-lawsuit-san-francisco/

  4. Re: Screw San Fran by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, you fucking liar.

    The liberals felt that mental institutions were cruel, and set an entire generation of lunatics loose, who promptly became homeless.

    You're an ignorant piece of shit rewriting history because the truth doesn't align with your agenda.

  5. SF is filled with idiots by rossz · · Score: 1, Informative

    They block new housing development, so there is a shortage. Then they throw a fit because rent keeps going up. Even if there wasn't a tech boom, this is the expected result when you strangle the supply. Have they stopped teaching basic economics in our schools?

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  6. Re:Screw San Fran by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Informative

    You do realize that the reason for closing them in the first place was because the ACLU went to bat and won a case for a patient of one of those hospitals. This is the same case that only allows people to be hospitalized against their will if they are a threat to themselves or others. Once people could check themselves out and the courts called it unlawful detainment, there was little left to do other than stop the spending.

    People act like this hasn't already been hashed out. You cannot open a mental hospital and just put people in it. You cannot declare someone mentally ill and force them to get treatment. You cannot even force people getting treatment to take their medications. People act like this never happened because they have some boogeyman to blame and think all will be magically different if we spend money again.

  7. Re:I'm just gonna throw this out here by Ingenium13 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's been tried in SF. If my memory is correct, the city spends around $60,000 per homeless person per year trying to help them (the current year's homeless budget is $241 million http://www.sfchronicle.com/bay...). In many cases, when they were simply given homes they then proceeded to trash them and make them uninhabitable (ie condemned). They were then back on the street again, and more money had to be spent making the home liveable again.

    The issue is that the homeless in SF are either mentally ill, addicts, or both. You can give them homes, but if you don't treat the underlying issue you're just throwing the money (and homes) away. But when treatment is a requirement for housing, they walk away and go back to living on the street. So what's the solution?

    Many of the people simply don't want help and would rather live on the street. Just the other week, one homeless guy who camps in the doorway of my building drank all day until he passed out. An ambulance was called, he fought them, but they ended up restraining him and taking him to the hospital. Two days later he was back again. The following day he was again passed out and unresponsive in the street, and the ambulance came again. Repeat a few days later. It happens a few times a week with several people, and this is just in front of my building across the bridge in the Oakland/Berkeley area. San Francisco is worse. I can't count the number of times I've seen people shooting up. So do you force these people into rehab? Arrest them? What's the solution? Simply giving them a home won't work.

  8. Re:Screw San Fran by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Kansas is doing a lot better in terms of education than, say, California.

    Kansas is in a state of total collapse, including their education system. The entire state is in a freefall into the shitter, and it's been entirely run by conservative Republicans.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelli...

    https://www.salon.com/2015/06/...

    http://www.politicususa.com/20...

    http://www.rollingstone.com/po...

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  9. Re:I'm just gonna throw this out here by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Informative

    San Francisco has done just that, moving nearly 12,000 into free housing. Problem is, they still have the same number of homeless. And now the expense and burden of free housing for 12,000 people.

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  10. Re:As a tourist... by evilviper · · Score: 4, Informative

    It was the left that pushed to clear out the mental hospitals.

    No, it was Regan.

    Over 30 years ago, when Reagan was elected President in 1980, he discarded a law proposed by his predecessor that would have continued funding federal community mental health centers. This basically eliminated services for people struggling with mental illness.

    He made similar decisions while he was the governor of California, releasing more than half of the stateâ(TM)s mental hospital patients and passing a law that abolished involuntary hospitalization of people struggling with mental illness. This started a national trend of de-institutionalization.
    http://www.povertyinsights.org...

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