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Amazon Kindle Oasis With 'Months' of Battery Life, Redesigned Body Launched

Amazon, on Wednesday, announced the Kindle Oasis, the company's latest addition to its ebook reader offering. The Kindle Oasis offers a range of improvements and changes over the Kindle Paperwhite. Mashable's Lance Ulanoff writes, "[The company has] essentially discarded the previous design in favor of a paper-thin display attached to a somewhat thicker side grip." Elaborating: First of all, the 6-inch screen is close to square. Second of all, it no longer sits in the center of the device. And thirdly, the screen is now an insane 3.4-mm thick. Yes, that is as thin as you think it is. Amazon's Oasis e-reader even marks the return of buttons to the design.As for the specifications, the Kindle Oasis sports a 6-inch display of 300ppi screen resolution, and 10 LEDs for "enhanced page consistency." Instead of "weeks"-long battery life, Amazon is promising "months" of usage on a single charge with Oasis thanks to the cover that ships with it and doubles as a rechargeable battery. It starts at $289.99 (Wi-Fi-only edition and with "advertisements that appear when you wake up the reader"), and goes all the way up to $379 (Wi-Fi + 3G, and no ads).

171 comments

  1. Excellent! by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Time to throw my old Paperwhite in the garbage! It is obsolete! I've had it an entire year! And it is only starting at $289 with ADVERTISEMENTS??? What a bargain! Thanks Jeff!

    1. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No epub support means all Kindles are completely worthless crap.

    2. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, I don't yet own an ebook reader and this looks quite attractive. There will be a market for this.

    3. Re:Excellent! by rwven · · Score: 0

      Honestly this seems like a significant step backwards from their current offerings. The lopsided design with page turn buttons on one side is a headscratcher. I read in bed before I sleep every night, laying down on my side, with the kindle aligned to my sight-line. I swap side to side and my hand rests on which ever side of the kindle is pointing at the ceiling and that's how I turn the pages.

      This kindle wouldn't allow that convenience.

      The button design is pretty clunky as well. The buttons should have been flush with the surface and larger.

    4. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No epub support means all Kindles are completely worthless crap.

      I agree.

    5. Re:Excellent! by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Informative

      A free download of Calibre will solve your issue by converting your epub to mobi.

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    6. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah right, I'm going to convert my entire library to a proprietary format that nobody uses.

    7. Re:Excellent! by bruce_the_loon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The device does detect if you are holding it in either a left or right hand and flips the screen vertically, so it will handle your case (to a degree). Might be mentally different though flipping through 180 degrees when swapping hands.

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    8. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, I never knew that. Thanks for the info. I was thinking about getting a Kindle but now I will keep on looking.

    9. Re:Excellent! by Nightjed · · Score: 2

      Look i agree with you, they should support epub

      but in the mean time calibre does batch conversion in like 3 clicks, takes about 20 seconds per book you can have it then upload them to your kindle, just leave it working for an hour

      Paperwhite is a freaking good deal for the price, specially if you get it during those discount days

    10. Re: Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't set the epub versions on fire after it converts them.

    11. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, it's a fucking rip-off. It costs $120 for the adware version. My Nook Glowlight Plus was $130 and it's way better; it supports more formats, including standards like epub, it doesn't have advertising and it runs Android which means you can install other reader apps, launchers and web browsers on it.

      Even if the Kindle were $1, I won't pay any amount for a locked down, adware device that only supports proprietary formats.

    12. Re:Excellent! by The-Forge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The full mobi format is documented officially so that kind of makes it not proprietary. It's like saying FAT is proprietary compared to ext3 just because Microsoft uses it.

    13. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The full mobi format is documented officially so that kind of makes it not proprietary. It's like saying FAT is proprietary compared to ext3 just because Microsoft uses it.

      Uhh FAT, like mobi, *is* proprietary, dumbass.

      Just look at all of the post-purchase rationalization going on here. You all got suckered into buying locked down Kindle readers and now you're stuck with them with no way to move your library to another reader. You just don't want to admit it, so you leap to the defense of Kindle, even though it makes you sound completely ridiculous defending proprietary formats and lack of features and ads and shit.

      It is trivially easy to move your Kindle library to any other reader.

    14. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Legally without stripping the DRM from purchased titles? (Depends on country yes, but lets look at North America)

      if so then I would probably purchase a kindle.

      At least epub drm (adobe) is fairly widely supported.

      Almost all online book stores have DRM. Amazon's is the only one that requires you to use their ebook reader with their purchases.

      I can buy from Kobo and still download the drmed epub and read it on a non-kobo e-reader. Same with other smaller ebook stores.

    15. Re:Excellent! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      I think for a dollar I could bend a little. Proprietary formats are a trivial problem. But at 300? No thanks. I can turn the brightness down and set the background color on the phone to read comfortably in the dark.

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    16. Re:Excellent! by steveg · · Score: 2

      My Kindle has epub support.

      Or rather, my Calibre-equiped PC and my Kindle together have epub support.

      I only ever buy non-DRM epubs. I edit them using Calibre to eliminate the right-justified margins and then convert them to Amazon's format. I've never actually gotten an ebook from Amazon, all my books are side-loaded.

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    17. Re:Excellent! by Luthair · · Score: 1

      I think Amazon (or someone at Amazon, Bezos?) desperately wants not to be seen as Walmart, and keeps trying 'premium' devices to escape it.

    18. Re:Excellent! by steveg · · Score: 1

      I'm not a big fan of the Paperwhite for the same reason I wouldn't like the Glowlight. No physical buttons. Well, that and the glowy part. I only bought the Gen3 Kindle because it was the last e-reader on the planet that still had physical buttons. Then they got rid of those.

      This is too expensive (but not that much more expensive than my PocketBook 360 back in the day) but if my existing Kindles ever die or get broken (I broke a screen on one a month or so back) then I might consider it, just on the strength of the physical buttons.

      I brought my entire e-book collection over from the Sony to the PocketBook to the Kindle. It would be no problem for Calibre and me to switch to a different device. *My* format is epub. I don't care what format my devices use, as long as I can convert them over. It's just a display format, but my primary storage is under my control.

      I store music as FLAC. Do I care that my car only plays MP3? Not in the least. There's a script for that.

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    19. Re:Excellent! by steveg · · Score: 1

      The old PocketBook 360 worked this way, but the automatic switching wouldn't have fit his use case. He's talking about reading it sideways. I'm assuming that you can lock the orientation. The 360 allowed this, with fairly easy manual switching of the orientation. that would work for what he wants to do.

      The fact is, the 360 provided the most comfortable reading experience of any e-reader I've ever used, specifically because of the asymmetric design.

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    20. Re:Excellent! by xvan · · Score: 1

      I have been through 3 ebooks brands, and kindle, by FAR, gives the best Hardware to price ratio. Non epub is bad, but not as bad but for me is counterbalanced by amazon cloud and the 'email document' feature. I agree that mobi is worse than epub, but it's not proprietary.

    21. Re:Excellent! by rwven · · Score: 1

      Fair point. Aesthetically it still makes my brain hurt, and those buttons are still awful though. :P

    22. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean something like the K4 NT? The last of their good devices? The ones without the idiot touch screen, backlight and all that crap?

    23. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calibre works seamlessly. It is your library and gives the correct format to any device you connect. It is not like you have to go through any lengthy/destructive/whatever you imply conversion process.
      And Kindle is the most popular ebook reader (for good reason, it is by far the best I've ever tried), so mobi is actually the most popular format currently, despite your "nobody uses it" protests.

    24. Re:Excellent! by lgw · · Score: 1

      I don't care much about the epub, since I'm just reading stuff I bought through Kindle anyhow (if every one is deleted or lost I still have >1000 physical books, more than I know what to do with really). I think this sucks because the screen is tiny. A 6" screen*? Really?

      Maybe I'm not their target market. I'm old enough to like a large font (otherwise I'd stick with physical books), and a 7" tablet is too small to have a proper column width with a larger font. Sure, the 6" screen has a better aspect ratio, but it's still not as wide as the text in a hardback book.

      Maybe they'll make a bigger one next, but at ~$300 for the small one ... eesh.

      * Why are we still measuring screens in inches, and not proper standard units, like millifurlongs?

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    25. Re:Excellent! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Calibre keeps your original files, too, and uploads only what you tell it to. It's not even remotely burdensome.

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    26. Re:Excellent! by stasike · · Score: 1

      I only bought the Gen3 Kindle because it was the last e-reader on the planet that still had physical buttons

      PocketBook still makes reader with buttons. PocketBook 626 Touch Lux 3. There are also others, such as Onyx Boox, Boyue (and its OEM versions), Cybook Muse, but you mentioned PB 360.

    27. Re:Excellent! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Legally? I don't really know or care. Calibre will strip the DRM - whether that is legal or not I don't have any idea, nor does it matter in any way. It's not like stripping DRM is going to land you in any kind of trouble.

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    28. Re:Excellent! by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Can the Nook, or any other e-reader, be used as a computer USB display out of the box? How about hacks? Can the 5th generation Kindle be hacked to do that?

    29. Re:Excellent! by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 1

      Yeah right, I'm going to convert my entire library to a proprietary format that nobody uses.

      Well, *you* obviously aren't since you apparently are opposed to it for undisclosed reasons. If you were to do so you'd find that the process requires only a trivial amount of user interaction, and the output would be of high quality functionally equivalent to the original for regular reading.

      I do the opposite; I regularly buy Kindle books and effortlessly strip the DRM and convert them to epub for reading on a Kobo. I would say that a maintained calibre library is essential for archival purposes no matter which device you're currently using.

      For whatever it's worth, I avoid the Kindle because of its closed nature and semi-walled garden, but I have no trouble recommending the models for their excellent hardware at a low price if the person don't care about its limitations. I suppose Amazon has catched on to the nature of my usage by now, as I never even open the books in their software after purchase, I only download and convert them.

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    30. Re:Excellent! by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      MPEG-2 is "documented officially", but is still proprietary (requires licensing agreements).

    31. Re:Excellent! by David_Hart · · Score: 1

      I only bought the Gen3 Kindle because it was the last e-reader on the planet that still had physical buttons

      PocketBook still makes reader with buttons.
      PocketBook 626 Touch Lux 3.
      There are also others, such as Onyx Boox, Boyue (and its OEM versions), Cybook Muse, but you mentioned PB 360.

      Yes, the lack any type of button is the reason why I kept my Kindle Keyboard for so long. I upgraded to the Kindle Voyage when it came out. The Voyage may not have physical buttons, but the capacitive buttons work perfectly fine. Personally, I don't see enough of a change between the Voyage and the Oasis to make we want to pay ~$400 for one.

    32. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stripping DRM is a violation of the DMCA. You could very easily get into trouble for it.

    33. Re:Excellent! by chihowa · · Score: 2

      The device does detect if you are holding it in either a left or right hand and flips the screen vertically, so it will handle your case (to a degree).

      Sweet! So like autorotation on phones, it'll totally freak out when you're reading it while lying down. Good thing that people never read books in bed, right?

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    34. Re:Excellent! by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      Only $289.99?! No wonder they need to show ads! Besides, people love being distracted while reading...

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    35. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should watch weird al's video "living with the pentiums" :)

    36. Re:Excellent! by steveg · · Score: 1

      I guess I was being a little hyperbolic when I said "the only one on the planet." :-)

      There used to be vendors in the US that sold Pocketbook, but that lo longer seems to be the case.

      The Kindle3 was the only non-touch e-reader on the planet, and now there aren't any. But the Touch Lux 3 looks like it might be a better choice than the Oasis, once my current Kindle3s die. Does PocketBook still use the same kind of system software that the 360 had? With folders and so on?

      Maybe if PocketBook notices that Amazon is copying their design, they'll figure that there is a market for the 360 again. I'd jump on that in a heartbeat.

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    37. Re:Excellent! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      How? What realistic scenario could result in some penalty to myself?

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    38. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stripping DRM is a violation of the DMCA. You could very easily get into trouble for it.

      You are not getting into any trouble unless you re-distribute to others (and in EU I believe that is the current legal interpretation as well).

    39. Re: Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's almost as if they want people to pay for the months the writer doesn't writing it. The outrage!

    40. Re:Excellent! by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      The ads don't distract you while you are reading. The reading screens are ad-free on the Kindle. The ads appear on the lock screen and in the Kindle store.

    41. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The DMCA forbids defeating copy protection. It doesn't matter if you distribute or not.

    42. Re:Excellent! by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      On the off chance that you can figure out all the bits to get Calibre to work, and if can cope the input files you happen to throw at it.

    43. Re:Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The DMCA forbids defeating copy protection. It doesn't matter if you distribute or not.

      Well, there are laws in some states that forbids fellatio and sodomy too, but as long as you don't broadcast it neither is not getting you into trouble.

    44. Re:Excellent! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I personally have not had these issues. I've used the Mac version for about 6 years. The only remotely advanced thing I've had to do is install the Kindle DRM stripper, and that was done through the GUI. I might not tell my grandfather to use Calibre, but I have no hesitation about recommending it to people haunting Slashdot.

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  2. My old Kindle already has months of battery life by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 0

    It had been sitting on the bookshelf since before Christmas; I picked it up at the weekend and pressed the menu button and... still working.

    I don't actually use it much!

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  3. $300 to read books? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 0

    like i'm going to dump my ipads and phones to buy this

    1. Re:$300 to read books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to ask whether it would run Linux, but at that price, who would want to.

    2. Re:$300 to read books? by cruff · · Score: 4, Interesting

      like i'm going to dump my ipads and phones to buy this

      Well, if you actually like to read a lot, it might be worth it (to acquire an e-paper reader, not dump your other stuff). The e-paper displays are readable outdoors in full sunlight, unlike LCD displays. I did try my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 with its AMOLED display outdoors, but had to turn it up to full brightness to even see it, with the resulting loss of run time. I also had to go back indoors first to find the brightness slider. It also suffered from reflected light glare, which my Kindle Voyage does not so much.

    3. Re:$300 to read books? by ooloorie · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but a regular $80 Kindle (or other e-ink reader) will do just fine for cheap outdoors reading.

    4. Re:$300 to read books? by rwven · · Score: 2

      You're not supposed to... This is a stand alone e-reader for people who want a stand alone e-reader. No one should ever expect to replace an ipad or phone with one. That's absurd.

    5. Re:$300 to read books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nook Glowlight Plus is on sale for $99 right now. You get an e-ink tablet running Kit Kat that's rootable. It's not a powerhouse tablet with only 512MB ram, but it still makes an amazing customizable ereader.

    6. Re:$300 to read books? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      still, that's a lot of money just to read a book at the beach or the pool. and then you have to remember to sync it first before you leave the house

    7. Re:$300 to read books? by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

      You can buy some actual books with that money, which would be a better expenditure, because after read, they are lendable, donatable, exchangeable, and resellable. Most ebooks I read are old enough that I can get them for free, legally, so the lack of those 4 features will not bother me.

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    8. Re:$300 to read books? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      You're not supposed to... This is a stand alone e-reader for people who want a stand alone e-reader. No one should ever expect to replace an ipad or phone with one. That's absurd.

      He mean the price "is the same" and as such unjustifiable considering what you could get instead / for the money.

      Or at-least that's how I understood it.

    9. Re:$300 to read books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      still, that's a lot of money just to read a book at the beach or the pool. and then you have to remember to sync it first before you leave the house

      It is indeed a lot of money...but 'sync it before you leave the house' ? I sync'd my ereader once with my book collection a couple years ago and I'm still not through them all.

    10. Re:$300 to read books? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but a regular $80 Kindle (or other e-ink reader) will do just fine for cheap outdoors reading.

      Amazon is currently selling used Paperwhites with 3G no ads for $85. Much more attractive deal than this new one at $280 with ads and no 3G.

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    11. Re:$300 to read books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For the price, they should be expecting something along those lines. This thing is basically the same price as an ASUS Zenpad S8 Z580CA.

    12. Re:$300 to read books? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      and if you read on a phone or tablet that's a lot of devices where you are on different pages that need to be sync'd

    13. Re:$300 to read books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      still, that's a lot of money just to read a book at the beach or the pool. and then you have to remember to sync it first before you leave the house

      What people consider pricey or not will differ, but since going Kindle vacations are no longer lugging several kilograms of books, and easily being able to read in all light conditions (while observing tablet users desperately try to shade their screen, and seen several broken on pool tiles last few years as well). Vacation is not only time reading outside either, but even for regular indoors and bedtime reading Kindle screen is far superior reading experience to any tablet.

      But besides all that, what do you mean remember to sync? Are you going to the top of the Himalayas? If no WiFi it syncs on 3G, for free, including being able to buy new books wherever you are when you run out.

    14. Re:$300 to read books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and if you read on a phone or tablet that's a lot of devices where you are on different pages that need to be sync'd

      Which is a usage scenario Kindle excels at. It will always keep your place in books you are currently reading synced across devices. On the Kindle device over free 3G.

    15. Re:$300 to read books? by unrtst · · Score: 1

      Nook Glowlight Plus is on sale for $99 right now.

      Got a link for that sale? Seems like it's $129.99 on their site right now.

    16. Re:$300 to read books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmmm...I found a $30 off coupon in a mailer to my house and grabbed one, since I already knew the rooting abilities and android version on it.

      Then after purchase when I was googling around for information on it, one of googles 'suggested ad results' showed 'get a nook glowlight plus for $99' and actually still does say that today...but now when I go to click on it the target landing page shows $129 like you say. So, sorry, but there's apparently a glitch in the matrix.

    17. Re:$300 to read books? by rwven · · Score: 1

      I suppose. I have a kindle voyage. I used to have an ipad mini but the reading experience isn't as good so I replaced it with the voyage for e-reading. The ipad was harder on the eyes and required you to jump through hoops to buy books since apple's ecosystem would require amazon to destroy their book profit margin in order to fully integrate.

      Ultimately I ended up giving the ipad away to a family member as I didn't use it anymore.

    18. Re:$300 to read books? by rwven · · Score: 1

      While that's a good tablet for a good price, for someone who reads a lot of ebooks, the kindle just offers a better reading experience. I've tried an android tablet and two ipads and ultimately replaced them all with a kindle voyage for ereading.

    19. Re:$300 to read books? by lgw · · Score: 1

      I have enough physical books, thanks. I've spent well north of $10k on books over the years (and still a great deal for the hours of entertainment provided), so $300 is just noise.

      The question is: is the reading experience better? The portability of a library on an e-reader does a lot to make up for the problems you mention. The only reasonable cause for avoiding e-readers is that one finds the reading experience less pleasant than physical books. I did for years, until I started wanting a larger font, and then suddenly e-readers were awesome.

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    20. Re:$300 to read books? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      still, that's a lot of money just to read a book at the beach or the pool. and then you have to remember to sync it first before you leave the house

      That's the first time I've actually heard someone attempt to say it's expensive to own such a device. As someone who lives with a person who chews through several books a month the device paid for itself within a year and reading has gotten ever cheaper since.

    21. Re:$300 to read books? by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      There is also something for being able to last through a long plane trip, especially if you get delayed. I see seat power on perhaps 10% of flights, relying on it is folly. Even many gate areas lack outlets.

  4. Ad by woksta · · Score: 0

    Is this an advertisement?

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  5. Re:My old Kindle already has months of battery lif by Sique · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you don't use it at all, the battery life increases. What takes the most power with e-Ink displays is changing the content. So every page turn takes power. If you don't turn pages, only the natural discharge of the battery cells drains energy.

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  6. When can I hack it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Call me when you can actually hack or mod them. Amazon has been so militant against any attempt to mod its most recent products - and yeah, I get it, Amazon owes me nothing, but there are so many interesting potential uses for the Paperwhite and other such devices that I'd have bought one by now if they were moddable.

  7. I won't pay that price until by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I won't paythat price until they have a colour e-ink display

    1. Re:I won't pay that price until by Junta · · Score: 1

      I would go further than that. Thus far the 'color' e-ink concepts are like washed out newspaper color rather than good color. For applications that suggest color, I'm skeptical that I'll see e-ink get there (not because it would be impossible, but because e-ink is a relatively neglected technology area).

      An ad-supported $290 device is outrageous, when the display quality is on par with ~$100 alternatives. eReaders are already pretty light, being lighter than most books, going that extra little bit isn't going to be that interesting.

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    2. Re:I won't pay that price until by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      I won't paythat price until they have a colour e-ink display

      Amazon is an American company. They will never make a colour display. They might make a color display however.

    3. Re:I won't pay that price until by steveg · · Score: 1

      Qualcomm had a color reflective display that was supposedly fairly vivid, called Mirasol. They were positioning it for e-readers, but then it seemed to vanish. It wasn't e-ink, it was supposedly based on the same sort of principle that gives a butterfly's wings color -- diffraction or something similar. They also claimed that it didn't have the slow refresh issues that e-ink has -- you could apparently do video with it. Their prototypes were fairly expensive, but it might have been worth it.

      In any case, nothing ever seemed to come of it.

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    4. Re:I won't pay that price until by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazon bought that and has been sitting on it ever since

    5. Re:I won't pay that price until by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have a pint, my good man. Unfortunately, our cousins don't excell at English so they'll mod you down into oblivion.

    6. Re:I won't pay that price until by mrbill1234 · · Score: 1

      Not Amazon, but Apple

      http://appleinsider.com/articl...

    7. Re:I won't pay that price until by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Pay what price? Given the cost of e-books is less than the cost of paperbacks you're more then welcome to waste money and shelf space on dead tree varieties. Most kindles pay for themselves if they are used.

    8. Re:I won't pay that price until by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the cost of e-books is less than the cost of paperbacks

      What? Lots of ebooks cost as much as or more than the paper versions.

    9. Re:I won't pay that price until by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      Sure they will. But it will only be sold on amazon.co.uk.

  8. Is there a left-handed version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buttons and grip are on the "wrong" side for about 30% of the world...

    Maybe it has a lefty mode to flip the display and button functions.

    1. Re:Is there a left-handed version? by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      I'm sure they didn't think of that.

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    2. Re:Is there a left-handed version? by MichaelJ · · Score: 3, Informative

      Did you even try to read the article? “A built-in accelerometer flips the screen so you can switch the grip from your right or left hand.”

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    3. Re:Is there a left-handed version? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I didn't RTFA (Though I skimmed the specs) and I assumed this would be the case. Anyone with a brain would have implemented this. It's just a good thing it isn't made by Microsoft, as they would have certainly omitted it. (Like the Surface/Surface Pro, which don't wake when you open the typecover, and bootloop if you try and wake from sleep while connected to the Microsoft Surface Dock).

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    4. Re:Is there a left-handed version? by chispito · · Score: 1

      Turn it over. It's clear as day from the pictures.

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    5. Re:Is there a left-handed version? by xvan · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure that'll work with the external battery. I think you're either lefty, or worth of 'moths of battery'

    6. Re:Is there a left-handed version? by unique_parrot · · Score: 1
    7. Re:Is there a left-handed version? by unique_parrot · · Score: 1

      I think this is called "Big Data" :D http://www.digiwiz.at/big_data...

    8. Re:Is there a left-handed version? by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      LOL, I have no idea what is going on...

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  9. In short... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No compelling reason to upgrade from my $75 monochrome Kindle that I bought last year. In fact, it might be another three years or so before I consider a replacement. I'm in my fourth year with the iPad 2 and considering an iPad Pro (smaller one) as a replacement. It took eight years to replace a first-gen iPod Touch with a cheaper iPhone.

    1. Re:In short... by Junta · · Score: 1

      The e-ink world is pretty stagnant. I wouldn't bank on the flow of time as being a source of delivering a compelling reason to buy.

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    2. Re:In short... by pesho · · Score: 1

      In fact, it might be another three years or so before I consider a replacement.

      Just three years? Unless something catastrophic happens to your Kindle or Amazon forces obsolescence there will be no compelling reason to switch. I still have a first gen. Kindle that is actively used. I have both newer version, including the paper-white, but this so that members of my family can have their own. Why would anyone shell $300 for a new Kindle, when the sub $100 versions are nearly perfect?"

    3. Re:In short... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >considering an iPad Pro

      Stopped reading because your judgement is clearly impaired.

    4. Re:In short... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Just three years? Unless something catastrophic happens to your Kindle or Amazon forces obsolescence there will be no compelling reason to switch.

      My dog chewed mine up pretty good... I guess she was looking for homework.

      Seriously - while my third-gen Kindle somehow does still function, you can see the dog's teeth marks around the keyboard end. Getting the micro-USB connection hooked up is a bit tricky, and not all the keys work.

      I was hoping this new announcement would bring the price of the Voyage down a bit, since I prefer the page-turn buttons to swiping the screen - but that's not how Amazon generally operates.

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    5. Re:In short... by steveg · · Score: 1

      The sub-$100 versions *used* to be perfect. Then they got rid of the buttons.

      Fortunately I saw this happening and got a couple of spares from Staples as they were closing them out. I've since broken one screen, but these should last me for several more years. At that point, if this thing is still around and still has buttons, I'd consider it.

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    6. Re:In short... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      I replaced my first gen Kindle, as the Paperwhite's screen is so much better, especially for reading in areas without sufficient light (which I tend to do a lot). I'm ecstatic with my Paperwhite as well, and am having a really hard time seeing why someone would choose a new, rather more expensive device unless they're the type that has to have the latest shiny, or has enough money that they don't have to worry about spending that much extra on a reader.

      The new one looks nice enough, but... honestly, I'd say it's nowhere near $310-380 nice (I refuse to buy one with ads, and I'm glad they give us the choice to opt out). My gut reaction is that they're moving the wrong direction with these. They should be looking for ways to make Kindles less expensive, which in turn makes the device more accessible, which will help them sell more books. I don't understand why they'd look to sell a premium Kindle device - are people really clamoring to spend *more* on their e-reader? I suppose they have the existing Paperwhites to cover the lower costs market, at least - nothing wrong with those devices yet.

      It should be interesting to see how these sell. It's sort of hard to predict, but my guess would be "decently, but not spectacularly".

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    7. Re:In short... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok. That's the second time I've seen a comment about the newer ones being crap because they don't have hardware buttons.

      Could someone explain why? I mean, you tap the screen, it advances a page. How is a hardware button better?

    8. Re:In short... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      How is a hardware button better?

      Some users prefer the tactile feedback of a hardware button. When you press a hardware button, you get instant feedback that tells you that you pressed down. Swiping on the Kindle screen isn't the same, especially if the feedback isn't instantaneous.

    9. Re:In short... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had 3 different e-readers, and I think the only "essential" upgrade is a backlight. Makes a huge difference in some lighting conditions.

    10. Re:In short... by steveg · · Score: 1

      Some of us also don't care for the touchscreen either. I want to be able to handle the e-reader (shift my grip, etc.) without having to worry that a non-intended touch will cause something unexpected to happen.

      It's less of an issue with a phone. What I read on a phone is constantly interactive -- I don't do long-form reading on a phone.

      The Oasis has a touchscreen, and for me that's a negative. But it has a large gripping surface, and it should be possible to hold it comfortably (with little worry about brushing against the screen) and still read with a finger on the button. Just clicking 'next ... next ... next' should be below the level of conscious thought, and won't disrupt the flow. It's a one handed operation, so reading at meals, etc. is easier.

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    11. Re:In short... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you press a hardware button, you get instant feedback that tells you that you pressed down.

      And when you touch on the page (no need for fancy swiping motions) your text disappears and you get a whole new page ready for your reading enjoyment. *That's* you feedback right there. How much more do you need?

  10. Bring back a large screen model by clifwlkr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would love to be able to read tech papers, manuals, and all kinds of stuff at work on a dedicated e-reader that didn't blind me. This unit looks like pretty much the same specs as the previous one with minor enhancements. From the specs, it is basically the same screen. Bring back the kindle dx size unit and I will pony up the $300+ for it. For this, I will stick with my old kindle that is still just working fine.

    I really think they are missing out on a great market of people who want to read things that just do not translate well to that tiny screen. I find that e-ink is awesome for long reading and scanning. I don't really like my tablet screen for that, plus I like to read outside. So come on Amazon, bring back a DX format or larger!

    1. Re:Bring back a large screen model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? I've tried and for the life of me cannot adapt to reading anything technical on an eReader. Being able to flip through pages easily and quickly in a physical book is invaluable for technical stuff. For story books, I love eReaders, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I use eReaders for technical books.

    2. Re:Bring back a large screen model by clifwlkr · · Score: 2

      Try being a consultant and travelling. There is no way I can lug several books with me on an airplane and on the customer site. With one of these, I could have my whole library of reference books, and books I want to read to learn something in my travel time.

      I agree that there is something nice about a real book, but it is all a balance of the situation, and a large e-ink reader for me would allow me to do things I just could not practically do in my situation. I don't think I am alone in this.

    3. Re:Bring back a large screen model by aliquis · · Score: 2

      This is what you want:
      http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/...
      Sony 13.3" 4GB DPTS1 Digital Paper System
      "13.3" Flexible Electronic Paper Display
      1600 x 1200 Native Resolution
      Multi-Touch Support
      4GB Storage Capacity
      microSD Media Card Slot
      Micro-USB Connector
      802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi
      Stylus Pen Included"

      "Easy to use right out of the box and optimized to accommodate 8.5" by 11" documents"
      "Read and annotate documents, create "sticky notes" and highlights, and upload documents wirelessly from Digital Paper, making them available for archiving or sharing with colleagues."

      It's what I want but I also want color =P

      "Oh we won't make a color one until there's color books!"
      It's called magazines, comics, ..

    4. Re: Bring back a large screen model by tysonedwards · · Score: 1

      Reference "book"? You mean the things that are basically out of date by the time they're printed, warranting in some cases yearly revisions to account for inaccuracies or changes in the product in question? If only there were a series of pneumatic tubes that were connected to one another spanning the world... Sort of an intertube web... Where you could ask someone for up to the minute data on anything... But alas, that is but a pipe dream.

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    5. Re: Bring back a large screen model by clifwlkr · · Score: 1

      Depends on what kinds of things you are trying to do. I am not IT, and computer science fundamentals and math do not change that much from year to year. If I am looking at a bug I might want to use stack overflow, If I am looking at scientific papers on machine learning, not so much. I am not a code monkey and am not just looking up a function in an API. If I am reading a scientific paper on the plane, the e-ink is much easier on the eyes, I don't necessarily have internet, and am much happier to have them all right there. Also, books on introductions to something like Spark or a new language are still relevant at their publication date. Heck, why would I even ever read a book on a reader then by your logic....

    6. Re:Bring back a large screen model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd love something like that, even in black and white, but for $800? Nope! Dead Tree Format it is!

    7. Re:Bring back a large screen model by Junta · · Score: 2

      It really needs to be a large format display. Having search and a *well designed* digital tech document (i.e. having working intra-document links and being well organized) I find to be invaluable. 10" is where I start maybe finding it acceptable to have a document workable in a technical context.

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    8. Re:Bring back a large screen model by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

      I read books on my kindle and PDF's and technical stuff on my iPad.
      I'd also argue that baring a color kindle, the iPad is great for graphical novel reading.

      Yes that does mean that when I'm traveling for business I'm carrying a laptop, kindle and Ipad.

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    9. Re:Bring back a large screen model by locofungus · · Score: 1

      I'd pay $800 if it was 300dpi rather than 150dpi.

      Needs to be at least the resolution of the ipad3: 2048x1536 which is just barely suitable for scanned sheet music. (Wouldn't pay $800 for iPad resolution)

      300dpi would take it to 3.2k/2.4k which would be ideal.

      A4 requires 3.5k/2.5k at 300dpi but 275dpi is good enough.

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    10. Re:Bring back a large screen model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you ctrl-f a paper book?

    11. Re:Bring back a large screen model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Sony 13.3" 4GB DPTS1 Digital Paper System

      Just bought one. It is amazingly light and thin for its size and textbook and other technical PDFs are perfectly readable. The only downside is the painfully high price.

    12. Re:Bring back a large screen model by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Just bought one ... The only downside is the painfully high price.

      I haven't and dito ;D

    13. Re: Bring back a large screen model by CRCulver · · Score: 1

      Scholars in many fields would tell you that the vast majority of the publications that they have to consult are not available on the internet. There are lots of things that are considered the state of the art in my own field, but because no one has taken them up since the dawn of personal computing, one has to read up on them from, say, a Soviet publication from the 1970s or some manuscript held in a state archive. Sometimes a person summarizes some of that state-of-the-art in an online venue like Wikipedia or some other researcher's blog, but they leave out lots of important detail, so no, the Internet isn't some wonderful source of reliable knowledge; at best it can only draw your attention to the print resources you have to dredge up from library stacks.

      Even when books are digitized (and that's an effort I've often had to take on myself, spending hours in front of the scanner to get things I can read on my Kindle when traveling), they tend to only be simple non-searchable scans, as OCR software generally chokes on text with a mixture of languages and lots of non-Latin-1 diacritics.

      Things are gradually changing, and certainly more recent journal issues will be available online, but we're still a long way away from all human knowledge being readily available through this series of tubes.

    14. Re: Bring back a large screen model by lgw · · Score: 1

      You don't always have internet access, especially in rural areas and at customer sites. Also, non-IT reference books tend to be good for many years, as the laws of physics don't change so fast.

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    15. Re:Bring back a large screen model by damnbunni · · Score: 1

      Ectaco Jetbook Color 2. It's $500, has a 9.7" screen, and is color e-ink, which despite being kind of muddy is probably better for technical stuff than black and white.

      I haven't used one, but I ran across it when looking for a reader. I didn't get it because I don't want a screen that big - I mostly read novels on mine.

      I use a Boyue T62+ which is a 6" screen lit reader with physical buttons running Android 4.2. Battery life isn't as good as my 'dumb' readers, but up till this Kindle the combination of 'lit screen' and 'buttons' was very hard to find.

  11. Turn off the Touchscreen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can the user turn the touchscreen off? My biggest complaint with my paperwhite is that it's very awkward to hold because I cannot grip it w/o touching the screen. if I could turn the screen off, that would be great.

  12. Walled garden by jewsdid911 · · Score: 2

    Just one of many reasons not to buy this. Garbage. And they have the audacity to offer you an adware-ridden version for a lower price.

    1. Re:Walled garden by Junta · · Score: 2

      It disappoints me that Kobo and Nook don't get more notice. Sure, they come with a default store experience, but at least they implement more interoperable formats.

      I know B&N have particularly been managing Nook poorly, but still...

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    2. Re:Walled garden by SScorpio · · Score: 1

      Did this new version get locked down? I have a 3rd gen Kindle and have no problem copying my own books to it over USB.

      I've also purchased books from Humble Bundle and Story Bundle. Both sites have Kindle instructions where you give it an ID for your Kindle and the books are uploaded to your Amazon account and downloaded wireless to your Kindle without paying Amazon a dime.

  13. why can't it be as big as a hardback? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

    for $300 they should make it like a premium device and have a larger screen as large as a first print hardback book. when i hold up my iphone or galaxy s6 next to a kindle it makes me not want to spend all that money to buy another device to carry around and dig in my bag that only does a single thing

  14. One word: disappointing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I can't imagine what the Kindle team is thinking. Same old 6" form factor, slightly iterated, and at a premium price the market most likely won't support. Wake me when it hits $100 and I'll consider buying one.

    If they're brought out a large form factor reader, like a new version of the DX, that would have been exciting. (For the record, I have a Sony DPT-S1 and it is incredible for reading technical works and textbooks.) This is just disappointing.

    1. Re:One word: disappointing by transami · · Score: 1

      There thinking... "Hey, we killed all the competition. We can now charge a fortune."

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  15. What a great feature by jewsdid911 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Get special offers Love deals? You'll receive special offers and sponsored lockscreens directly on your Kindle. Offers display on the Kindle lockscreen and on the bottom of the home screen and library while not in use - they don't interrupt reading." Who the hell thinks getting advertisements is something desirable?

    1. Re:What a great feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any marketeer who wants to keep his job...

    2. Re:What a great feature by Junta · · Score: 1

      Who the hell thinks getting advertisements is something desirable?

      Amazon, duh.

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  16. sorry, amazon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    epic fail. books aren't square.. fiction hardbacks and trade paperbacks are around 1.5-1.6 AR.. and text is wider, even discounting white space on the printed page, than your square screen. people aren't going to want to tap tap tap a button to scroll a fucking page besides having to tap or swipe to change pages (and even just that is still twice as often as a real book with facing pages)...

    we haven't even started with the near-$300 price tag for an item with the sole purpose of driving vendor-locked after-the-sale purchases of drm-laden digital books and all the 'telemetry' gathered from the associated amazon accounts, purchased books, reading patterns and interests, etc etc etc that you cannot disable.

    1. Re:sorry, amazon. by steveg · · Score: 1

      Have you ever used an e-reader?

      You don't scroll pages. The text flows to fit the page. You click a button to turn the page. If you change the font size, it fills the page differently and you get more (or less) on each page. Big deal.

      I'll admit that the form factor might make it less pocket friendly, I'd have to see it to be sure. It's a similar form factor to the old Pocketbook 360, and I had no trouble getting that into my pockets.

      Price is a problem. This is pretty expensive. But I don't see a problem with all the telemetry you're talking about. It's trivially disabled. My current Kindle doesn't know my wifi password any more than my "smart" TV does. I don't have any DRM-laden books.

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  17. Good, page turn buttons! by Predathar · · Score: 2

    Expensive, I don't see myself upgrading since my old kindle still works fine and has page turn buttons. I hate models with the touch interface to turn pages, give me a reader that I can hold and turn pages with just 1 hand and I am happy. I still use an old Kobo as well for this reason, page turn buttons.

  18. Fuck Amazon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope it die today so I could get rid of that crap quickly as possible. I'm not angr. This is the shield tat I installed in my mind to protect me from that shit.

  19. I was expecting something more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...and definitely not that expensive.

    I've had a Kindle DX for over five years now. Love it, though my original intent in buying the DX was for also reading technical books. That doesn't work so great, and the low picture resolution in the Kindle format makes a lot of technical graphics and tables hard to read. So I use the iPad for technical books (also easier to zoom) and use the DX to read novels and the likes (and sometimes "all-text" technical books). I wouldn't mind a smaller one for when I travel, but it looks like it'll be one of the current models (IF I do buy another one - the DX is still going strong, after all).

  20. How about a big version for old people? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    Okay, I don't really need a big type version, but maybe if I play the "for old people" angle they'll make a full size version like the old DX. I'd love to have one to put references on, but having a technical manual on a paperback sized device just doesn't cut it.

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  21. Sure fire way to sell more Kindles by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    Give (retroactively) ebooks copies for any book purchased new from Amazon. The already give you digital download copies of CDs when you buy them from Amazon. But I've got too many hard copies of books (many of them purchased from amazon) to switch over to pure digital. But if I had a realistic way to do so, I would, and probably purchase a new Kindle ereader (I already have a Fire that I barely use anymore, if I do read it's off my phone)

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    1. Re:Sure fire way to sell more Kindles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out Kindle MatchBook. They offer ebooks of some books you've purchased for a discount.

    2. Re:Sure fire way to sell more Kindles by CRCulver · · Score: 1

      Amazon doesn't want to sell more Kindles as much as it wants to increase its sales of ebooks, and the Kindle is just a way to do that. (IIRC, at one time, even when the Kindle was selling like hotcakes, Amazon was still making a loss on every Kindle sold).

      I'm not sure that Amazon would think bundling a free ebook with an ordered hard copy would be in its best interest, for that would encourage people to keep ordering hard copies. There are hints that Amazon wants to move away from selling physical media products (a lot of its CDs sales, for example, were shifted onto third-party merchants), because the profit margins are higher when one doesn't have to deal with warehouses and shipping.

  22. Government intervention? by transami · · Score: 1

    I appreciate a larger bezel -- too many tablets/eReaders don't give one enough of one to actually hold on to. But I'm not feeling too keen about it all being on one side. And I really hate the idea of mechanical buttons. And finally the cost is ridiculous. eReaders need to get down to the realm of calculators eventually, not push them up -- of course the real problem there is lack of a single eBook standard. With B&N's Nook going under, there is only Kobo left to compete and they are a poor shadow of Amazon. One has to wonder if the Feds are going to have to do something.

    P.S. I was so looking forward to the eBook revolution. I waited on pins and needles for years looking forward to the day I could toss my paper books. But when it finally came, it's been handled so poorly... well, I'm still using paper books mostly. So sad.

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    1. Re:Government intervention? by steveg · · Score: 1

      I agree with you on the price, but on nothing else.

      I had an e-reader several years ago with just this sort of design. Big mechanical buttons (almost paddles) all on one side. It was the most comfortable reader I've ever used. I was *really* upset when I left it in a restaurant.

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  23. Re:My old Kindle already has months of battery lif by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually the thing that eats the most would be the wifi/cell chip. If you turn the wifi off the kindle will easily last for months without use. If you leave it on? Not so much.

  24. and $300? Oy. by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    After the runaway and well-deserved success of the Echo (and now its awesome little brother, the Echo Dot), Amazon's entitled to a complete flop, which is what a ~$300 e-reader will almost certainly be.

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    1. Re:and $300? Oy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Echo was a success? Wow, colour me surprised.

  25. Limited storage by jbridges · · Score: 3, Insightful

    4GB again, just like cheap Kindles.

    A couple dozen cookbooks or graphics novels, and you are out of space.

    It's not waterproof, so why not put in a MicroSD slot?

    1. Re:Limited storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not waterproof, so why not put in a MicroSD slot?

      Hell, even if it were waterproof, why not have one?

      I've got a Kobo Aura H2O and it is waterproof, has a microSD slot, and is cheaper than the (closest to) equivalent kindle.

    2. Re:Limited storage by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Because cookbooks and graphic novels are not the "normal" use case for a black and white device?

      And because 4GB already holds literally hundreds of normal books.

    3. Re:Limited storage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But flash storage is cheap nowadays, why no double or quadruple the storage for virtually no cost (specially compared to the price of this device) and extend it's use to these less common use cases?

  26. The return of page-turn buttons! by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    Apparently I'm not the only person who didn't like tapping on the screen to turn pages. It's part of the reason I still use the third-gen Kindle.

    In fact I rather like my third gen and see a lot of reason to upgrade no matter how awesome they get. Until color e-ink comes out it's just words on a page and my third gen is fine.

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    1. Re:The return of page-turn buttons! by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Yeah I'm glad about that. The most annoying part on the paperwhite Kindle is that there's no room to show the buttons, so instead you have to remember roughly what areas of the screen map to what function.

      Not sure why there's an obsession amongst device manufacturers in general with removing buttons. My cheap $30 Android phone is an improvement on the expensive Hipster phone it replaced in part because it has the navigation buttons at the bottom, whereas Hipster phone insisted on omitting them and forcing you to use virtual buttons on the screen.

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  27. PocketBook 360, anyone? by steveg · · Score: 1

    This looks like a reboot of the PocketBook 360. In my opinion, the PB360 was the best e-reader ever built, other than the screen. It had the crappy screen that was the best available at the time -- the newer Kindles have much better screens. The 360 had a built in accelerometer that would automatically flip the orientation, or you could lock it into whichever orientation you wanted. It was the most *natural* feeling reading experience -- the buttons were right where you wanted them.

    Now, if only they'd copy the (open source) software that the 360 had. It had much better book organization features. If you wanted to put your books into your own folder structure, it would show them to you in the way you wanted.

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  28. Waiting for the price decrease by kamitchell · · Score: 1

    Wow, maybe I'll upgrade my Kindle, wait, $289!?

    What would be really handy for that outrageous price would be colored LED backlighting, so you could adjust to red tones when reading in the dark.

    I figure this is the early-adopter cost for the 300 dpi e-ink, and the price will come down eventually. My paperwhite will serve until then.

  29. April Fools by transami · · Score: 1

    This has to be a belated April Fools, right?

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  30. Nook HD+ 9" for Text Books et al by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

    It's not e-ink, but thats why I got the nook 9" (for Text Books and game PDFs). Amazon's price is a little steep for the Nook HD+ 16GB (refurbished) , a little more than I paid for the 32GB refurbished 2+ years ago. EBAY has an 8GB Nook, for a semi-reasonable price (as they all have microSD slots).

  31. What are they smoking? by grahamtriggs · · Score: 1

    I bought a Kindle Voyage. It was quite expensive, but at the time, the front light and higher resolution was somewhat justifiable. But that's now been eroded by the Paperwhie, and if I was buying now, there isn't much point in the Voyage.

    Now they bring out a device that's nearly twice the price of the Voyage. While I appreciate e-ink for reading, that's an awful lot for a one trick pony. And for what added value? An unnecessarily long battery life?

    I sure hope they weren't expecting any sales.

  32. Over-priced crap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus, 80 bucks is too much for one of these things, and then there are STILL ads? What the fuck is the innovation that justifies the price? Putting all the electronics and batteries inside the chassis in strategic locations for ergonomic and aesthetic purposes?!? Because tell you what... Apple already patented that when they built the new MacBook line of computers, what with the trellised battery package, minuscule motherboard, etc!

    The only real innovations here are the detachable battery booster, but that's pointless to count since you can't buy one WITHOUT that, and if they REALLY wanted to, they could make it so it's engineered to be caseless, AND put a solar panel on it, which as little power as it draws, would give it battery life of FOREVER, provided you periodically expose the thing to light. Shit, they could make the bitch waterproof, eliminate the power-jack, or USB-micro connector, or whatever, stick a solar panel on it and not bother to ship it with any cables or power plugs...

    Too bad they didn't think of THAT!

  33. Juts a bit condescending by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

    And thirdly, the screen is now an insane 3.4-mm thick. Yes, that is as thin as you think it is.

    Err, yes. I think it's 3.4mm thick. You just told me.

    That's the beauty of standardised units of measurement.

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    1. Re:Juts a bit condescending by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Also:

      First of all, the 6-inch screen is close to square.

      No it isn't. The device is close to square.

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  34. Re:My old Kindle already has months of battery lif by mspohr · · Score: 3, Funny

    I never change pages... I just read the same page over and over... I still don't get it.

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  35. I am praying my Kindle Keyboard doesn't die! by Ecuador · · Score: 1

    I am praying my Kindle Keyboard doesn't die. I have it from 2011, its battery still seems to hold about the same charge and I got it when Amazon gave you free worldwide 3G internet! I've been to some pretty exotic places and could still take out my kindle and google something in its experimental browser (current offerings also have worldwide 3G, but only for downloading books from Amazon - and perhaps wikipedia?).
    That said, more kindle offering is a good thing. I mean it is by far my favorite device (I increased my literature reading from about 4-5 books per year to something like 20 after getting the kindle), if it wasn't for that perk and the fact that even the old Kindle Keyboard is pretty fine as a book reader (with the official case that has an integrated light), I would definitely consider this, it is still much cheaper than most phones for example.
    But, yeah, you don't normally need to upgrade your Kindle every year. My wife has the paperwhite and the only reasons for her to upgrade would be either a large screen one (for pdfs) or a color one (for graphic novels).

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  36. So for the price by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    You could buy 2 paperwhites (with the same resolution) and have money left over for some coffee at Starbucks.

    $289 for an ad (infested) platform and only a 6 inch display? Seriously? Do they toss in lifetime Amazon Prime for this price? They should.

    On another note, please check with your local llbrary system which allows you to checkout ebooks for free.

    OverDrive is one platform libraries use.

    1. Re:So for the price by will_die · · Score: 1

      Moved to a new libraries and got a couple of e-books, they used Amazon library. No additional software to install, and I can access the books on any Kindle software system.
      Even better if I placed the book on hold, to many people want it, I can have it so my Kindle automatically downloads it when becomes I turn.

  37. Still no SD card.... by BlueCoder · · Score: 1

    Read my lips. A SD card reader is required equipment. If anything builtin storage is optional.

    The Kobo Aura h20 is still the best reader on the market. Best of all amazon can't strangle hold you to use their ecosystem.

    Any ebooks I keep around actually have/use I do purchase to support it's author. The first thing I do with my legal downloads is break the encryption. I not going to let you take away from me what I purchase. Every publisher is eventually going to go out of business or stop supporting past products.

    One feature I think it a must for future readers is audio output and syncing in someway an audio book with the printed book. They might be able to get away with that though just a LE Bluetooth. Possibly audio over Bluetooth but better just a syncing app with an audio player on my phone. It would just be nice to find out how a word/name is pronounced.

    Also it might be good if the platforms opened up rights for audio books such that every day people could contribute and make money for ebook performances. I prefer different voices depending on what is read. It would also be nice to have ensemble performances. Think of the performances as "apps".

    But definitely they need devices with larger screens (and I mean up to like 14 inches) and an interface that is is aware of more than one device. Textbooks and schools. Using a couple eink pads of different sizes along with a tablet I think would be typical usage. Video and multimedia being consumed though the tablet with static content though eink.

    Second they need to open up their platforms in some way to external operating systems. Sure they will still have their DRM hardware there in some fashion.

  38. Echo definitely a success by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    Okay, surprised it is.

    Echo was a roaring success. Still is. We -- my SO and I -- own both an Echo and an Echo dot. They. Are. Awesome. We use them for all manner of things. Time, alarms and timers, spelling, definitions, weather, music (particularly the Echo dot, which actually has a hardwired stereo connection (also bluetooth) for audio instead of a built-in medium-fi mono speaker), direct control of lights, temperature... there's also a lot to be said for being able to talk to the thing when your hands are full, you're walking out the door, lying in bed, in the bath, etc. There are quite a few Echo-controllable devices out there now; plus, the IFTTT website works with it, which opens up a lot more easy-to-manage options.

    Could Echo be better? Sure. Lots. The developer program, for instance, is really badly thought out. It works, but it's mega-clumsy and far more complicated than it needs to be, plus there are rigid secure server requirements for non-cloud use that simply do not need to be there for local control applications. Instead of speech parsing, it currently only uses canned lists of expected input (despite the fact that it can STT/TTS anything you say with very high accuracy. Just tell it "Simon says yadda yadda" and it'll STT what you said, TTS it back, and you can hear that it gets it right almost every time.) Couldn't hardly *be* more clumsy than expected list pseudo-parsing. But... it works. Which I suspect is their only real metric at the 3rd party developer level.

    Is there anything anywhere near as good as Echo out there yet? Definitely not.

    Anything coming? Perhaps. The "Watson" project looks like it might yet actually get rolling. They say they are shipping 3D printed units to select beta testers. I'm waiting until I can actually order one, then I will be happy to see about developing for it (I already have extensive text parsing code, and I'm not short of ideas or applications right here.)

    The holy grail for these devices is non-cloud speech recognition that is available for interaction over the LAN. Watson says they'll be open, so that takes care of the LAN issue, but it's still a cloud-based speech system at this point, which means if the net, your ISP, your network, anything along the line is down, the device becomes clueless, just like Echo. Speech recognition is a hard problem, so it may be a while before we can have reliable local TTS/STT devices. But when we do... oh, yeah. :)

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    1. Re:Echo definitely a success by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      I thought you were being sarcastic. The Echo is a market failure. But the fact you said that speech recognition is a "hard problem" shows you are clueless. Speech recognition is a solved problem.

    2. Re:Echo definitely a success by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      The Echo is a market failure.

      Wrong. Go do some googling.

      But the fact you said that speech recognition is a "hard problem" shows you are clueless. Speech recognition is a solved problem.

      No, It isn't. The (partial, failure-prone) attempts we have now rely on huge server systems. There is no, repeat no, stand alone solution that is even close to good enough for general use, or even specific individual use with careful training, at this point in time.

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  39. This submit is great... by unique_parrot · · Score: 2

    ...to spot people with amazon stock :D

  40. It's ugly by stolidobserver · · Score: 0

    I like how they downgraded the latest paperwhite battery life so they could come out with this device that has the same battery life as the previous generations of paperwhite. I can only assume the voyage will be discontinued. I opted for a Kobo Glo HD with a 32gb card in it this time. Perfection. EPUB FTW!

  41. Or for about $20-25.... by miniskunk · · Score: 0

    Or for about $20-25 you can upgrade your existing kindle book reader with a small external USB battery pack and charge it 10-15X for about the same life as the one that costs more than 2x as much.

  42. Kobo Glo by Rexdude · · Score: 1

    Got this last year, same size as a Paperwhite, nice soft backlight for night reading, microSD slot for expandable storage and native epub support. The store is quite limited compared to Amazon, but I torrent my ebooks anyway, and they're distributed as epubs, so no extra step of conversion via Calibre.

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