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Chrome 50 Updates Push Notifications, Drops Support For Old Windows and OS X Versions (venturebeat.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from VentureBeat: Google today launched Chrome 50 for Windows, Mac, and Linux, adding the usual slew of developer features. You can update to the latest version now using the browser's built-in silent updater, or download it directly from google.com/chrome. As announced in November 2015, Chrome now no longer supports Windows XP, Windows Vista, OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, OS X 10.7 Lion, nor OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. Chrome 50 allows sites to include notification data payloads with their push messages. This eliminates the final server check -- the initial version relied on service workers to proactively fetch the information for a notification from the server, leading to problems when there were multiple messages in flight or when the device was on a poor network connection. Push notification payloads must be encrypted. Sites can now detect when a notification is closed by the user, resulting in better analytics and allowing for cross-device notification dismissal. The look of notifications can now be customized with timestamps and icons. Chrome 50 also brings support for declarative preload.

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  1. XP I understand by clonehappy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No one should still be running XP unless it's on a specialized system, and those shouldn't be used for general web browsing anyway.

    But OS X 10.8? That came out in 2012, not 2001. Even 10.7 is still fairly modern. 10.6/Snow Leopard is getting long in the tooth, so that might make sense to drop support, but this will just make people using the older Macs run out of date browsers or find another product.

    1. Re:XP I understand by Tax+Boy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But OS X 10.8? That came out in 2012, not 2001. Even 10.7 is still fairly modern. 10.6/Snow Leopard is getting long in the tooth, so that might make sense to drop support, but this will just make people using the older Macs run out of date browsers or find another product.

      Every version of OS X since mavericks in 2013 has been free and runs on pretty much any mac built after 2007. So really folks, get with the program and update.

    2. Re:XP I understand by ledow · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's more to do with development.

      You can't legally VM Mac OS. It just doesn't have compatible licensing.

      So to make apps for these old versions, you REQUIRE specific versions to test with, which means a physical machine each, which means lots of Macs just to test and each has to be managed, updated and imaged separately.

      And, no, you can't just use the latest XCode to compile and expect it to work on older MacOS, and nor can you use the latest XCode on an old MacOS, etc. And, pretty much, if you're targeting MacOS, you need XCode and utilities at some stage.

      I never got why people like development on Mac.

    3. Re:XP I understand by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      Every version of OS X since mavericks in 2013 has been free and runs on pretty much any mac built after 2007. So really folks, get with the program and update.

      My iMac still works perfectly fine but can't run Mavericks. So what program should I get with?

      Off topic. I was considering replacing it with a mac mini, but with the last refresh gutting the mac mini's specs I now don't know what the best upgrade path is. I'm almost to the point of building a hackintosh.

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    4. Re:XP I understand by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      So what program should I get with?

      The program you need to get (with) is firefox since it'll run on your mac just fine!

      ba dumm tschhh

      I'll be here all weak, try the steak!

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    5. Re:XP I understand by JBMcB · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I never got why people like development on Mac.

      Because of this:
      https://developer.apple.com/li...

      Yeah in Windows you have PowerShell, which is so awesome Microsoft is doing this:

      http://www.theverge.com/2016/3...

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    6. Re:XP I understand by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's more to do with development.

      You can't legally VM Mac OS. It just doesn't have compatible licensing.

      From the El Capitan license agreement:

      (iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software
      within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control
      that is already running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; (b)
      testing during software development; (c) using OS X Server; or (d) personal, noncommercial
      use.

      http://images.apple.com/legal/...

    7. Re:XP I understand by spoot · · Score: 2

      Yea, except for the fact that I've been using protools since, well, longer than I can remember. Know all the hot keys, and exactly what I'm doing to get exactly what I want. So, switching to audacity or some other audio clunkware, well, that dog don't hunt.

    8. Re:XP I understand by John+Allsup · · Score: 2

      Unless those terms also exist in the licenses for earlier versions, it is no help: one cannot legally run OSX Lion in a VM on an El Capitan machine.

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    9. Re:XP I understand by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Is a shell really a big deal for most developers? For what I do with it as an embedded and desktop developer I only make light use of it, and the web/cloud guys hardly use it at all. If you are administering servers it's all SSH anyway and Windows has plenty of good SSH clients like Putty.

      What sort of development tasks does an advanced shell help with?

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  2. Dropping Vista support?? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The 2 remaining users will be highly upset.

    1. Re:Dropping Vista support?? by NotInHere · · Score: 2

      You can't get them upset anymore. After all, they have vista.

    2. Re:Dropping Vista support?? by PRMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You can do any sort of speed test you want on Vista and then upgrade to Windows 7 IN PLACE and that same speed test will be improved. This is true regardless of Vista or Windows 7 version, because they rewrote the kernel for 7 removing tons of dead code and increased the multi-threading that the OS does by default.

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    3. Re:Dropping Vista support?? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2

      You can do any sort of speed test you want on Vista and then upgrade to Windows 7 IN PLACE and that same speed test will be improved.

      When I try to run direct x 10 benchmarks on Windows 7, they typically crash. This is not an improvement.

      You lied to me.

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  3. older OS X versions by WheezyJoe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unfortunately, there IS a reason some people may not want to upgrade OS X: some older Macbook Pros have a hardware flaw in their GPUs, and later versions of OS X panic (i.e., crash) with these machines where the older versions don't. Then there are the poor souls who just can't bring themselves to retire their PPC-based models. I mean, c'mon - the Luxor Lamp iMacs still look pretty damn cool. Generally, OS X upgrades are very worthwhile, but some people with hardware that's 5+ years old but otherwise working fine are getting the pinch.

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  4. Re:Seems a bit hasty... by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    I expect Google decision is based off of number of users more than the age of the OS's
    XP is way too old.
    Vista has such a small number of users who care about upgrading so why bother with them.
    The same with the older OS Xs Apple provides an inexpensive upgrade path so there shouldn't be that much hassle if you have a newer system.

    Supporting older systems is always a pain.
    1. There is a small but obnoxiously vocal group of users. Who are very angry that they can't do newer stuff on a computer that is a decade old. However to accommodate these people you will need to sacrifice newer features available in the newer systems that will make the majority of people much happier.

    2. Testing on older OS's gets tiresome.

    3. More problems to fix. The further you go back the more problems you will need to fix. And how much time do you need to waste to get Vista Compatibility for such a small portion of users.

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  5. Microsoft supports Windows Vista until April 2017 by tepples · · Score: 2

    Vista has such a small number of users who care about upgrading so why bother with them.

    Yet Microsoft is continuing to support these users for one more year, with support ending in mid-April 2017. This will just push users back onto Internet Explorer 9 for this final year.

  6. Re:Remember when Google was competent? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

    Google is becoming more and more abusive, and more and more incompetent. Want to download the Google Chrome Browser? The download file name does not give the version number.

    If you pay attention, that's probably because it doesn't actually have a version number associated with it. When you download chrome, you're just downloading a shim that downloads the latest copy of Chrome from Google's servers and then installs it.

    The only way you can download a specific version of Chrome is if you get the MSI based installer, which is most often used for enterprise environments (because it can be deployed via group policy) but otherwise works the same.

    An earlier version of the Google Chrome browser installs 3 system services.

    That had to have been quite some time ago. Chrome has, for a very LONG time now, installed entirely into user space (unless you use the MSI installer) which is a deliberate design choice meant to accommodate users that don't have admin access to their PC. You can't even download such an older release with the shim that they issue now.

    The browser situation is very, very ugly. Firefox is now, basically, owned by Microsoft

    Ok now you're just getting stupid. Sorry, I can't fix you.