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Warmest March In Global Recordkeeping (wunderground.com)
Layzej quotes a report from Weather Underground: March 2016 was by far the planet's warmest March since record keeping began in 1880. In the NOAA database, March 2016 came in a full 1.22C (2.20F) warmer than the 20th-century average for March, as well as 0.32C (0.58F) above the previous record for March, set in 2010. This is a huge margin for breaking a monthly global temperature record, as they are typically broken by just a few hundredths of a degree. Global satellite-measured temperatures also found this March to be the warmest -- the sixth consecutive monthly record in the UAH satellite data set. Gavin Schmidt, the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies has estimated that 2016 already has over a 99% chance of being the hottest year on record, based on the first three months alone.
1. March was the highest average on record by 2F, all of which was anthropogenic in origin.
2. March was the highest average on record by 2F, 1F of which was anthropogenic, and 1F was caused by long-standing historical temperature cycles.
3. March was the highest average on record by 2F, all of which was caused by long-standing historical temperature cycles.
What modifications of human industrial/consumption/energy behavior would you recommend for each of these cases, given that which is actually the case is not determinable? Implicit in this is the question of what the "right temperature" would be.
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What exactly am I supposed to do about global warming?
Birth control.
When you cut through all the environmentalism BS, you see that the real underlying problem is obviously overpopulation.
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Let's say that it is all natural --- now what? We still don't want all the ice to melt.
Let's say it is "all human". Now what? The governments don't actually do anything.
Why not do something concrete like ban all non-emergency air travel? NO NOES THE INCONVENIENCE!!! Why not ban all government use of jets? Why not ban the use of corporate cars that aren't electric? Why not ban air conditioning?
It isn't really about whether or not something is happening but rather governments never follow through, making the alarmism itself rather pointless.
No one is willing to live up any luxuries, especially the big shots jetting around to these conferences.
I was thinking less accurate more in that it just focus on one aspect of a much larger and more complicated picture rather than being incorrect. For instance, it might theoretically be possible for the average temperate to stop increasing, but we could still suffer catastrophic effects from some other aspect of climate change - e.g. the proposed effect on Europe of a massive glacial ice melt causing the warm water flow across the Atlantic to stop. It's also only accurate on a global scale; some areas of the world are showing a consistent reduction in recent local temperate averages, for instance, whereas "climate change" covers all the bases much better.
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Look at the first graph. Notice how the climate is basically identical to the second graph.
Maybe you could explain why the charts are mostly blue in 1921 and mostly red in 2013? Furthemore, despite the fact that the difference in the first chart should be only two Fahrenheits, I think I do see the 2013 being slightly higher on average. If by "basically identical", you mean that it's two Fahrenheits out of a fifty Fahrenheit annual amplitude, then yes, it's "basically identical". But most people wouldn't call, say, a seasonal ten Kelvin difference in outside temperature during their year as "basically identical" even though 290K and 300K is "basically identical" from a certain point of view.
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I'm not cherry picking these
Yes you are. You are trying to disprove that global warming - and that the average of all the temperature stations are wrong - because one single station doesn't show the same increase as the entire globe.
And surely you should not be looking at the first graph. It only shows the minimum and maximum temperatures and not how long it spends are the top end of the range throughout the day compared to the minimum. If in 1921 it peaked at the maximum only briefly compared to later years (when it might spend many hours more at the peak) then the average temperature for the day would be lower.
The better graphs to look at are the ones below the min/max temps graph on the links that you provided. Compare the temperature departures from those two links and you see a lot more red (above the 0) on the more recent year. That shows the real temperature difference; that the average temperature over the year has indeed risen since 1921.
How embarrassing it must be for you to have thought that you were smarter than all the climate scientists in the world who do actually know how to read the data. And how arrogant are you to to claim that to disagree with you means that they are all shills. The only one here spewing misinformation is you. I suggest that it is far more likely that it is you who are the shill.
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Birth control by smart intelligent people who care about the planet is just a way of handing it over to stupid uneducated people who don't use birth control and don't care about the planet.
If you wouldn't vote for people like that in an election, why on earth would you hand the future of the planet over to them and their descendants?
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Nobody gives a shit. Not even the people who pretend to.
If nobody gives a shit, then why do stories on climate change generate so many comments? And why did you bother coming here to post about it if you don't care? I suggest that you do actually care.
I'm sure that you cared when you undoubtedly said that global warming was a myth because it was getting cooler since 1998. You probably also cared when you claimed that it was a myth because of the hiatus once it became obvious that the cooling was just the result of 1998 being an outlier year. And I'm sure that you care now when the records are being consistently broken, but this time all you can do is try to distract us from the facts by claiming that nobody actually gives a shit now.
Sorry, we do give a shit, even if you like to pretend that we don't.
Yell at my neighbours because their piece of shit 1970s automobile spews a cloud of toxic black crap every time they pull out of the driveway?
Maybe. In the Europe even old cars have to meet emissions standards, even old ones. So we don't really have a problem with people running broken cars belching out smog, because they are required not to.
Why should you accept someone polluting the shared air that you both have to breathe?
I don't know what we're supposed to do beyond that, though.
You already did a lot, and you should be commended for that. Beyond that the best thing now is probably to keep pressure on politicians to address the issue. The US has a huge problem with denialists in government. Get them to follow the lead of those countries that are making a big effort to address the issue, like Germany.
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With one breath you say you believe global warming. With another wou wish people professing it to murder suicide each other. Your goals are obvious shill. GW with or without the A is noticible by a person. I am 40 and have seen it in my lifetime. If you do not care about the future, or think we are powerless to stop it fine. Say so. But don't be a lying dbag.
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I'm still trying to figure out what your point is. So far you've just cherry-picked some data after saying you're not cherry-picking, made some wild claims without supporting evidence, and then told everyone to stop discussing minima and maxima because you've had enough of it.
It seems your grasp of the topic is somewhat tenuous and flavoured more by anger than intellectual curiosity.
12 billion is sustainable if we make sure those people have access to a high standard of living powered by renewable energy and fed through sustainable farming
If you can have 12 billion survive at a high standard of living, that means you haven't reached the maximum population size yet.
No, I'm showing that it isn't noticeable as a person.
No, it is noticeable as a person. Not only can you feel just one degree centigrade difference without any trouble, but the number of places not experiencing a notable change are outnumbered by the number of places which are. The average person can notice a change, if they do not have their head jammed straight up their arsehole.
But the man on the street walking about... the point of the graph I showed was to make it clear that it is so subtle that you don't see it for feel with your own eyes and skin.
Right, and you're wrong.
So explaining why people might not care is really pretty self evident.
Yes. They think it can't happen to them, and they don't care about anyone else. Quite self-evident.
Anyway... if you want to discuss this civilly you'll find me a genial fellow. If you instead want to trade barbs you'll find I know how to draw blood as well as any.
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Every place of country that's enacted has had two things happen: The economy stalls, and people end up out of work. That leads to massive discontent, and in turn leads to a voter backlash.
You want to make a real difference? Vote in elected representatives that push for nuclear power. Drive down the cost of energy as a whole, and you'll get everything you want in your carbon tax without the crushing problems of collapsing an economy where companies simply pack up and leave. If you however believe that green energy is the solution, let me point you to Ontario where the current government has pushed that hard and the price of electricity is now the most expensive in North America and businesses are simply packing up, leaving and the government has the highest debt level per-capita in the western world.
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The flux from the sun is continuously measured by satellites.
One thing that we know quite well is that changes in solar output is not the cause of present-day warming.
It could be a factor in past climate variations-- we can't measure solar output very well millions of years ago, or even for that matter hundreds of years ago. But it is measured now, and it's not the cause of warming.
I have a car, because I have to drive to work. It's expensive to own a car and I'd rather not, but it's much more expensive to live in the downtown core where my office is, and to have my wife stay home with the kids. Therefore we both work, we live in the burbs, and we drive to work and daycare... like everyone else. Not because we want to, but because we have to.
I heat my house with natural gas and power it from whatever power is on the grid because it's my only option as well. I live in a townhouse and don't think I'd have much success convincing everybody to upgrade their furnace and install solar panels above their unit. I'd love to live in my own detached house with infinite money to customise it for the planet, I simply can't afford to do so.
I recycle as much as I can, even though there's evidence that for many products it costs more energy to recycle than make new, such as with plastic.
This movement wonders why nobody seems to care? We've been berated and guilted with this shit for decades. We are all concerned, but most us are running the hamster wheel, working the wage slave gig, hoping like hell to be able to send our kids to college and scrap together enough money we'll be able to relax a little before we die. So I'm not really surprised when people get a little tired of hearing this shit and make up excuses why not to believe it. You're preaching to the wrong people. Take it to congress, to industry, and to other world leaders... leave us alone.
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Why Fahrenheit is For People. And cats.
Celsius 0:Cold 25:Warm 50:Dead 75:Dead 100:Dead
Fahrenheit 0:Really Cold 25:Cold 50:Meh 75:Warm 100:Really Hot
Kelvin 0:Dead 25:Dead 50:Dead 75:Dead 100:Dead
Rankine 0:Dead 25:Dead 50:Dead 75:Dead 100:Dead
Réaumur 0:Cold 25:Hot 50:Dead 75:Dead 100:Dead
Also, look. At -40C, it's actually -40F. Isn't that cute? Celsius trying to be reasonable, and all. Sorry, Celsius. Too low, too late. Back across the pond with you.
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