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US Suicide Rate Surges To Highest Level In Almost Three Decades, Says Report (bbc.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from BBC: The suicide rate in the U.S. has surged to its highest level in almost three decades, according to a new report from the CDC. There was no explanation for the rise but some experts have pointed to increased abuse of prescription opiates and the financial downturn that began in 2008 as likely factors. The report did not break down the suicides by education level or income, but previous studies found rising suicide rates among white people without university degrees. CDC reported on Friday that suicides have increased in the US to a rate of 13 per 100,000 people, the highest since 1986. The overall suicide rate rose by 24% from 1999 to 2014, according to the CDC. However, the rate increased 43% among white men ages 45 to 64 and 63% for women in the same age-range. In 2014, more than 14,000 middle-aged white people killed themselves. That figure is double the combined suicides total for all blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders, American Indians, and Alaska Natives. The suicide rate only declined for only two groups: black men and all people over 75.

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  1. It's simple actually.... by beheaderaswp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With the press, political garbage, continued military actions, bad economy and the apparent focus on material wealth- who would expect a different outcome?

    People need stability, security, and community to really thrive. This country has not promoted those values.

    This shouldn't be framed as a political or religious problem- it's a lack of decency. It means that as individuals we've simply stopped caring. Societies rise and fall based on how people treat others on a daily basis. We treat each other badly. Some people will decide to leave. Some will take their lives. Some just take it. Those who complain are called whiners.

    You can in fact beat a person to the point where they prefer death. The beatings in the USA are done by a million paper cuts.

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    Another consultant who stuck it out.

    "We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx..."
  2. This Submission... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...should probably include a hotline number.

  3. Gee, wonder why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've written software since the 70s. Never had a problem getting a job. In '08 I left a good company to join a startup, cuz I was young and stupid and wanted a million bux. Startup flamed out after a year. No sweat, I'll just get another job.

    Since '10 you wanna guess how many companies I've interviewed for? 0. Exactly 0. Nobody even wants to interview a 50+ person, let alone hire them. I've got 30 years experience with embedded systems. I've written several Linux device drivers. I've written 3x more for systems other than Linux. I've designed systems from back of the napkin descriptions. I'm pretty good at maybe 10 languages, expert in 3-5. Biggest of all, I understand the importance of SCM and bug tracking.

    I'm not gonna shoot myself or anything, but I've got friends my age in the same boat I'm in. Unemployed for years, no health insurance, no income, nobody wants to interview us. Our golden years are looking like fools gold to us.

    1. Re:Gee, wonder why by nbauman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I finally made it to Social Security, which is a little better.

      The worst part is going from being a creative, contributing member of society to an over-the-hill guy that nobody needs. The most depressing thing is knowing that you have nothing useful to offer. If you're just a burden on your family, why live?

      The money is also a problem. It would be a lot easier if we had European social welfare systems like Germany or the Scandanavian countries, where unemployed workers get almost as much as their historical income, and even get retraining for new jobs.

      We used to have a social contract in America. The corporations broke it.

    2. Re:Gee, wonder why by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We used to have a social contract in America. The corporations broke it.

      As demanded by the voters. And this year doesn't look any different. Same old same old...

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    3. Re:Gee, wonder why by leftover · · Score: 5, Informative

      This was never presented to "the voters". This was taught as dogma to generations of Business Administration majors with no supporting theory or measurement at all. They are all out there now, convinced that the magical "market" will automatically guaranty maximal efficiency. They were never taught to think or to question whether old models were still valid. Any change is frightening for them since they have absolutely no ability to evaluate or even think about it. Change does not match their case studies, all carefully selected and massaged to support the dogma. This, arguably more than any other factor, is what keeps the USA on the rails to havoc.

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      Bent, folded, spindled, and mutilated.
  4. Some experts by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    some experts have pointed to increased abuse of prescription opiates

    That is a symptom, not the cause.

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    Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
  5. Re:30 years eh? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like the legacy of Reaganomics

    There's a reason it's the "highest suicide rate in three decades". It's most definitely thanks to Reaganomics and the trickle-down legacy, where the futures of middle and working class people trickled right down the drain.

    The decline of labor unions meant that working people had less power in the meta-transaction of labor v capital. After decades of the middle and working classes gaining power, suddenly watching that power being taken away by orange-haired frauds like Ronald Reagan has taken the heart out of those people. They're working as hard as ever, and watching as the pensions of their parents turn into their own 401k bucket of nothing.

    In ten years, we're going to see that generation (and the next) reach old age with nothing but their social security checks to live on. That's when we're either going to see the suicide rate skyrocket or we'll come to learn as a society that we've allowed stage 4 capitalism to run us off the rails.

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    You are welcome on my lawn.
  6. Almost Committed suicide a few weeks ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The statistical suicide rates for opiate 'addicts' are probably severely flawed. I suspect a large portion are actually chronic pain sufferers that didn't get adequate medical care. The medical community is absolutely horrendous at treating chronic pain when they don't have some obvious cause. You are basically absolutely screwed if they can't look at some x-ray or MRI or CT and see something broken or out of place.

    Mine started from a stupid fall onto a hammer two years ago. Eventually it got so bad I couldn't stand or sit or sleep basically live. I've forgotten how many times are frozen my skin solid trying to get the pain to go down. I am only taking tramdol at 150mg for that last two years. If I had done it I would've been considered an 'addict' statistic because there was a prescription bottle in the room.

    I got a call from the Mayo Clinic the next day saying they accepted my case but that took more than two years to get to this point and being treated like you're some kind addict because your chronic pain.

    if you hurt yourself make sure you fucking break it really good so the doctor can figure out what the fuck is wrong with you quickly otherwise you are screwed.

  7. So, worse than the Depression? Plague? Holocaust? by Brannon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most of history was a worst time to be alive than right now, for the average person at least. It just somehow always seems to be fashionable to claim that "things were always better in the good ole days". It's just stupid cliche' bullshit from entitled brats.

  8. I'll be adding to that number soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Lost my job last year and I don't have any hope of finding a new one. My health sucks too but not enough to get disability. And my savings is running out. I've been living off my 401K so tax time this year took a lot of the money I had left, and they hit me with quarterly tax stuff for 2016 because they think I'll make too much money.

    No you idiots. I am making zero money.

    I can't afford my Obamacare, at almost $300 a month so that's going to cancel. Can't get medicaid or food stamps because I made too much money last year even though I haven't been employed at all since September. Well, also single men don't get coverage anyway. We don't matter.

    So what am I supposed to do when the last of my 401K runs out? I have enough money left to last three more months. No kids, no spouse, a few worthless pets and me, age 46. And I am too sick and too weak and too out of options to care any more.

    Job? I've tried. They want kids fresh out of school who will work twice the hours for the money. 15 years of experience from my last job is not of much value to anyone else when they can just hire some kids or H1-Bs cheap. Plus, I have no degree Hell I didn't even finish high school. I've worked and worked and worked for all these years and have nothing to show for it. So I am looking at GED and starting all that stuff and trying to pass it all and somehow afford college? At my age? With what money? I haven't been in school of any kind in decades and my mind is not up to it.

    So yea I am thinking there is just no fucking point to this any more. I see no way out, no way forward. And I can't even TALK to anyone because the moment you tell someone you feel hopeless, they treat you like a mental case. Locking me in a padded room is not going to HELP. So I can't even say anything to friends. I can't tell them anything. I'm all alone.

    When the money runs out, I'm done.

    1. Re:I'll be adding to that number soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm a single man and I have applied and qualified for both Medicare AND food stamps. They look at the past few months' income, rather than your most recent tax filing, since that means nothing if you just lost your job. I've also received near-free mental health treatment for depression (without insurance), you won't be locked up unless a judge orders you detained in a mental health facility (e.g. if you attempt suicide).

      If you have no kids or spouse, and a few months' money, then you have the ability to start a new life. Look into buying a small house in southeast asia (philippines, thailand, etc.), even just renting you could live for years on a few thousand dollars. English is taught in public schools in many of these countries, if they're like Japan you would be able to get a job as an English teacher if needed.

      Another option may be Intentional Communities (they're like communes).

  9. Attention! Slashdot is deleting comments!!! by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unacceptable! Unacceptable!

    This cannot be tolerated! Please people! Demand that it stop immediately! Indelible, uneditable comments is Slashdot's last redeeming value! Without it all is lost!

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    1. Re:Attention! Slashdot is deleting comments!!! by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, those links are the actual comment numbers, and I always cruise at -1. I crave the ghetto life, it's my home. Those comments are gone. There are no sliders. This is most disturbing. I really hope that enough people raise a sufficient fuss to stop it.

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  10. Losing hope..... by Proudrooster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is success?

    What is beauty?

    Axiology is a study we do not teach much or consider much these days.

    The ancient Greeks studied axiology, ontology, and epistemology. They were curious about beauty, truth, value, belief, and opinion. This was the glorious age of the great philosophers who thought that they should be kings and rule the world.

    Fast forward to 2016, in general, as a society, we no longer discuss these things and they are spoon fed to us by media, commercials, Facebook, CNN, Fox News etc... Sure there are still people who think about these things, but our culture is youth driven and based on consumerism.

    Live has to be lived intentionally, with thoughtful care and purpose.

    Things "are what they are" and we have a choice in how we react to them.

    So many have lost hope, but I say to you, chose how you will react.

    Life isn't some game you win or lose. Life is a grand adventure meant to be lived and experienced. You can do this from anywhere.

    You are not your paycheck.

    You are not your job.

    You can always start over.

    You always have a choice.

    You can chose to let circumstances define you or your can chose to rise above them and find new truths.

    You can chose to worry or you can chose to live.

    No one is guaranteed another minute, embrace life, don't lose hope, chose to be a force for good. Embrace the adventure this life has to offer.

    Do not give up!

  11. Maybe modern diet? by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most of history was a worst time to be alive than right now, for the average person at least. It just somehow always seems to be fashionable to claim that "things were always better in the good ole days". It's just stupid cliche' bullshit from entitled brats.

    One form of depression comes from low serotonin.

    The metabolic pathway goes: 5-HTP->Tryptophan->Serotonin

    Note that corn-fed stock (chickens, turkey, and such) is lower in tryptophan than free-range stock

    Perhaps our modern diet is lower in tryptophan that our bodies are evolved for?

    Serotonin (and all other neurotransmitters) are sent from one neuron to another, and then reclaimed. The reclamation process isn't 100% effective, some small amount is lost in the process, but the end result is that the brain doesn't make Serotonin very fast. It doesn't need to, because it expects to lose only a little during reclamation.

    (This is the mechanism of SSRI antidepresants: they interfere with the "reuptake" process.)

    If you have a job or environment that requires creativity, you may be exercising your Serotonin pathways a lot, leading to low serotonin. This is why the stereotype of "artist" includes dark, moody, and prone to suicide.

    Maybe the rise in suicide is due to our fast-paced life that demands more creativity from many workers (such as programmers), while at the same time presenting us with lower Serotonin precursors such as Tryptophan.

    Just a thought, probably isn't be true.

    It's almost certainly due to the financial downturn and rise of prescription opiates.

  12. Interfering with serotonin is probably the cause. by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Given that SSRIs are known to sometimes (for reasons unknown) cause suicidal ideation where there was none before, and the way we tend to hand those out like candy, I would say those are far more likely than the opiates to be causing a rise in suicide.

    I'm currently exploring the theory that a) there are 4 forms of depression, each caused by low levels of one category of neurotransmitter, and b) the first form is caused by low serotonin.

    My working theory is that SSRI's sometimes fail because either a) the depression is due to a different transmitter, and/or b) SSRI's won't help if you have little or no serotonin to begin with.

    This could be why SSRI's sometimes increase the chances of suicide. The cure would be for the patient to make more serotonin, not to interfere with its proper workings.

    Another form of depression is from low dopamine. The two types are similar, but can be distinguished. Serotonin is the "happy" transmitter, and low levels are associated with dark moods and suicide, while dopamine is the "reward" transmitter, so low levels are associated with tiredness, low energy, and the feeling that tasks are pointless.

    I suspect that a survey or questionnaire could be used to identify the particular type of depression a person has, and given the results lead to a specific treatment of one of the transmitters.

    I'm still researching, but this one proposed mechanism seems to explain a lot of things in the literature. Most notably, that depression appears to be a resource depletion disease.

  13. Hotline numbers and other resources by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 4, Informative

    US: 1-800-273-8255 is a 24/7 suicide prevention hotline, which also advises people dealing with a suicidal loved one or friend.

    http://www.suicide.org/interna...

    For US active duty military and veterans:
    Veteran's Crisis Line:
    1800-273-8255
    Press 1
    or text 838255

    confidential chat available at: www.veteranscrisisline.net

    Specifically for support of trans* people, http://www.translifeline.org/ has a US hotline number +18775658860 and a Canadian toll-free number +18773306366.

    For LGBT teenagers and young adults, http://www.thetrevorproject.or.... They also have a hotline number, 866-488-7386.

    If you're a friend or bystander, these are relevant.
    Suicide threats on social media:
    http://www.suicidepreventionli...
    If you're in the US this is a guide to reaching emergency services outside your own area: http://firstaid.about.com/od/c...
    Immediate steps you can take: http://www.helpguide.org/artic...