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Gmail For Android Gets Microsoft Exchange Support

An anonymous reader writes: Google has updated Gmail for Android with a very notable feature: support for Microsoft Exchange. You can download the latest version of the app from Google Play (if you don't see it, don't worry: Google says the gradual rollout may take three or more days). The company had actually released this feature a few months ago, but at the time, it was only available for Nexus devices. With the new update, Google is making the feature available to a wider audience. "Exchange support was previously only available on our Nexus devices, but as of today, Exchange support covers mail, contacts, and calendar data in Android across all devices," a Google spokesperson told VentureBeat.

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  1. What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 0

    Exchange support covers mail, contacts, and calendar data.

    Is it really that useful to merge these three types of data into a single program? This sounds as dumb as merging a music player, video player, device manager and online music/video/app store into a single program.

    1. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When your users you support are only willing to use one product, it's quite useful.

    2. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by DogDude · · Score: 4, Informative

      Is it really that useful to merge these three types of data into a single program?

      Yes, it really is that useful. For people with white collar jobs, it's incredibly useful, and there are no other products that are nearly as good.

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    3. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are you serious or just trolling? Did you really just come out from under a rock or mom's basement?

      You can't possibly think of a reason you'd want something like contact info with email addresses tied into the program you send emails with tied into your calendar so you can send appointment info to people?

    4. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noone said it's getting "merged". If it works like the stock mail, mail goes into gmail, contacts go into contacts, and calendar goes into ... calendar. You also can see from which account an entry is...

    5. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by unrtst · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is it really that useful to merge these three ...

      Yes, it really is that useful...

      You're both right and wrong.
      Having an interface from your email program into your contact management system is very useful. However, as one example, this could just use LDAP.
      Having an interface from your email program to accept/deny/reply-to meeting invites sent via .ics files is very useful. However, that could easily be done via an external handler based on mime type. The email program *could* be so kind as to parse that for your and show a nice display of the info.

      Exchanged doesn't literally merge this data either. It, and its native clients, provide tight integration of these items (mail, contact, calendar), similar to every other groupware item ever created.
      Personally, I think there should be more standard tools to deal with these standard formats. I primarily use alpine for email, and I wrote my own ics (icalendar) parser to display the contents and shift all the times into my own timezone (which is easily the messiest part of the parsing). I also have it display an option to use gcalcli to import that to my google calendar (I used to use "google calandar add ...", but that broke). It would be nice if someone made a simple command line tool to do the calendar actions on those attachments, and a wrapper for a GUI version, so that part would all be standard and easily triggered by any mail program.

    6. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      This sounds as dumb as merging a music player, video player, device manager and online music/video/app store into a single program.

      Or even into a single device, right? And what about integrated circuits? Horrible. Who ever thought such a thing could be practical? What's wrong with rectifiers and vacuum tubes that can be tested and bought at Walgreens?

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    7. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Millennials. Nuff said.

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    8. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by DogDude · · Score: 2

      I put my email address and username into Outlook.

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    9. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      I use three separate programs on my Mac that do all these things just fine and work with each other to do those exact things. I don't see why the all-in-one aspect of Microsoft Exchange is seen as a "must" on a website where people dislike the iMac, systemd, iTunes, etc.

    10. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      I guess you didn't read "iTunes" as I expected people would. People hate iTunes around here because of the all-in-one aspect.

    11. Re: What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by jofas · · Score: 1

      I think you misunderstand. The calendar data is merged into the calendar app, mail with gmail app.

    12. Re: What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by jofas · · Score: 1

      You use alpine on android. Really.

    13. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by swb · · Score: 1

      IMHO, the real failure was for someone to extend the IMAP protocol to handle contacts and calendar items. Maybe the commands and primitives were already suited for this and we just needed some standard format for calendar and contact data types and they could have been saved as messages in folders flagged as containing that kind of data, and then at that point the processing logic is just up to the client to provide interfaces for it.

      In other words, if you had a MUA that had calendaring and contact user interfaces, could you have just used IMAP to store that data in the mail store? Or is there some kludgey inefficiency to something like that where it would mean harsh IMAP queries to populate a month view of a calendar or an entire address book?

      In my mind the "best tool for the job" mindset kind of made Exchange an easy choice, since Exchange functionality on Unix would have meant LDAP, IMAP, and maybe something else.

      If somehow you could have gotten all of this done with a client and an IMAP server (at least for individuals without intra-user shared data) maybe a more open client model would have held on to some of the market because the back-end could have been a single system and not a mashup of a half-dozen different services.

    14. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by jofas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you don't see why Exchange integration in apps, I posit that you are not a corporate nor high-volume email, calendar and contacts user. Fact is, Exchange integration is a must for many jobs.

    15. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Exchange isn't special. But it is what a lot of big businesses use. Because it was one of the first well known brand system to support Email, Contacts and Calendar info. Back in the day where Microsoft was the cool company. During this time having a unified app vs common protocols were popular.
      Being that migrating off Exchange is a bitch, most companies will just keep it.

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    16. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not just Microsoft, the architecture is called Groupware and promotes collaborative software integration. SoGo is a good OpenSource example of combined CalDAV, CardDAV and GroupDAV etc. If you don't like it, well OK..but it's practially a given architecture when designing an IT infrastructure for a company. If you walk into a 20,000 user company and promote separate and non-integrated applications for email, calendar and address book you will get laughed out of the interview.

    17. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      Programs talking with a standard set of protocols work just as well.

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    18. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Quite literally a huge majority of the white collar world has decided that Outlook and Exchange is ideal for them, especially given the high quality support for them on popular smartphones.

      I have at least 3 Exchange accounts from 3 mail systems open in Outlook at one time and I use them all extensively. I can't imagine the clusterfuck of having three programs to manage this same information.

    19. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Really? I did not know that. I always thought it was because it's so locked into Apple's format and kinda clunky.

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    20. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      When your users you support are only willing to use one product, it's quite useful.

      If you're working in the sort of environment that's likely to be using Exchange, your users shouldn't be dictating software policy.

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    21. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >contact info with email addresses tied into the program you send emails with tied into your calendar so you can send appointment info

      Maybe this person does not know what Exchange is. I didn't, so I came here to learn. Your description is awesome and helpful, so the demeaning part of your response can be left out. Then maybe you can contribute more effectively to the world- Thanks.

    22. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Are you serious or just trolling? Did you really just come out from under a rock or mom's basement?

      You should't assume everyone here is old enough to have experience in a workplace.

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    23. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 2

      Exchange support covers mail, contacts, and calendar data.

      Is it really that useful to merge these three types of data into a single program? This sounds as dumb as merging a music player, video player, device manager and online music/video/app store into a single program.

      That's failing to address what Exchange is. Outlook is the client, end-user experience and that is what merges e-mail/contacts/calendar data. Outlook is a reasonable mail client but not in and of itself indispensable.

      Exchange is a server product that Outlook can optionally connect to, and it enables exchange of data. More than the obvious e-mail exchange user-to-user, it handles all the expected bonus features like user groups, forwarding, out-of-office messages (server-side, not client-side). It's handles device sync much, much better than IMAP can. It comes with a web portal. You can also make "public folders", containing things like shared calendars, shared contact lists, and shared mailboxes, allowing users to exchange useful information of those types. More, Outlook really starts to shine in an Exchange environment, enabling slick handling of things like meeting invites. You can make special "resource or room" mailboxes for things like boardrooms, and users can schedule meetings with those resources, and see free/busy availability and so on. You can delegate user access to all the various types of data it handles, allowing teamwork.

      That's a summary. But really, it's sort of "why would anyone use an SQL database when there's flat text files?" If all you're doing is quick notes, text files are fine. If on the other hand you're looking to do something more complicated, SQL is a huge difference. Well, Outlook as a mail client is... ok. But as a client to Exchange, for businesses that can use group scheduling or contacts or delegation or shared anything, it's almost completely without peer.

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    24. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by swb · · Score: 1

      Maybe this person does not know what Exchange is. I didn't, so I came here to learn.

      I thought this was News For Nerds.

      How can you not know what Exchange is? It is literally the most dominant on-premise groupware server and has been for at least a decade and more or less in its same format has been available since the 1990s.

      I might expect you to not know what Groupwise or Lotus Notes were, but Exchange?

    25. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by jofas · · Score: 1

      However, in our current world of grey-area smartphone data ownership (corporate/personal), it's nice to have more options like allowing users to connect with the GMail app. The days of have a corporate *and* personal phone are going the way of the dodo.

    26. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by jofas · · Score: 1

      Maybe this person does not know what Exchange is.

      Using your own rationale, a person who knows nothing of Exchange shouldn't be shooting off their mouth about it in the first comment. This isn't Kindergarten, you're expected to be exposed to technical content on a technical site.

    27. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by jofas · · Score: 1

      No, but a 30-second Google search on "what is Exchange" should be well within the capacity of anyone, even without any work experience and especially for someone who feels the need to make the first comment. One might argue that it actually wastes everyone's time.

    28. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by spacepimp · · Score: 1

      I suppose you could easily have a calendar device a contacts gadget and a portable email system and a phone. After all, what is the possible advantage of centralizing these vastly different data systems into one piece of hardware?

    29. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by Albanach · · Score: 1

      If somehow you could have gotten all of this done with a client and an IMAP server (at least for individuals without intra-user shared data) maybe a more open client model would have held on to some of the market because the back-end could have been a single system and not a mashup of a half-dozen different services.

      Why would a bandwidth heavy standard like IMAP support have saved things? We already have open standards for calendar and contacts, CalDAV and CardDAV respectfully. And there are open source server solutions that implement them, such as Zimbra.

    30. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thats right you must love your blackberry only deployment.

    31. Re: What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by easyTree · · Score: 1

      It's really handy if parts of your users' lives are currently private.

    32. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Not everyone has worked in places big enough to run anything Microsoft. All the places I've been have used either Mac OS, Mac OS X or Linux/BSD.

      There was one guy who ran some flavour of Windows that was needed for some CAD program but that's about it.

    33. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      AAC is not "Apple's format" nor has it been locked for years.

    34. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by swb · · Score: 1

      The idea is that popular adoption of an easy open source solution didn't happen because of the division of all those items into multiple data types requiring multiple back end services to be installed.

      If they all had been usable through a single server instance, maybe an open source alternative to Exchange circa 2000 would have blunted its momentum. I think despite the so-called complexity of an Exchange install, it offered a fairly easy to install, "single server" solution for mail/calendar/contacts that free open source alternatives couldn't match, especially 15 years ago when an equivalent server-side storage solution would have mattered.

      Most of that now has been ceded to Exchange and more recently to web/cloud services now. Zimbra seems like an also-ran solution at this point, although I have no experience with it and have no idea how good it is or how useful its free product is.

    35. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in a county government, the users (other departments) decide if the internal IT department even exists by spending their share of taxes taken in on support and services from us instead of a contractor.

    36. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by unrtst · · Score: 1

      I'm fairly certain you are mashing up and confusing the facts here.

      When someone sends a meeting invite via outlook through an exchange server, the recipients receive an email with a text/calendar type attachment, and it's just an iCalendar file, which is a standard format attachment.

      The only reason outlook users see a different interface in their client when the get one of these is because the outlook client detects that attachment type and handles it specially. Any other client can do the same thing, or they could allow you to open it in an external app (which is what I do).

      Contacts for exchange are accessible via the standard LDAP protocol. All other clients can use this as well, and most do support this.

      Shoehorning calendaring and contacts into IMAP would NOT be a good idea. We already have very well established standards, and making a client that can talk those protocols has already been done many times over. Exchange isn't popular because of the protocol; it's popular in spite of its proprietary protocol.

      BTW, there are also standards for storing other data in IMAP. Pine/Alpine has used them for ages, and can store the config itself, as well as contacts, on any IMAP server. I'm 99% sure that support was there before exchange existed.

    37. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by swb · · Score: 1

      My thought was that for a single user (ie, minus any of the group/shared functionality of Exchange or other groupware concepts) IMAP wouldn't have been a terrible way to interact with remote data storage.

      You get the value of a single server process handling the info, clients not capable of parsing and rendering calendar and contacts could just ignore it (or at least not mangle the data) and if the format was standardized any client could read/cache/interpret it/present it to the user, providing you with an easy way to have the same kind of stored-on-the-server functionality you get for email for calendar data and contact info.

    38. Re:What makes Microsoft Exchange so damn special? by unrtst · · Score: 1

      My thought was that for a single user (ie, minus any of the group/shared functionality of Exchange or other groupware concepts) IMAP wouldn't have been a terrible way to interact with remote data storage.

      It's been done. It was done long ago. It did not blunt the momentum of other solutions.
      Here's the docs for Pine's remote address book, as one implementation: https://www.washington.edu/pin...
      Here's a huge list of ways to share/copy/sync/etc address books to/from Thunderbird: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Shar...
      The ones that won for address books are LDAP and CardDAV.
      Calendaring is quite different and separate from email, except in sending/receiving invites, so it's always a separate system. The invite stuff is solved with CalDAV and/or iCalendar.

  2. Office 365 support too? by tonyyeb · · Score: 1

    Does it work with Office 365 accounts too?

    1. Re:Office 365 support too? by DoubleParadoxx · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've been using Gmail on my Android phone with Office 365 for many months now. Its had Exchange support for just as long. I have no idea what this article thinks is new.

    2. Re:Office 365 support too? by jofas · · Score: 1

      It already does.

    3. Re:Office 365 support too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. Whatever comes in Android 5 and Android 6 just works when pointing to an exchange server. And yes, gmail can interface to it just fine. And I am talking nearly-stock android here (i.e. Motorola), and my previous samsungs in android 4.1/4.2 also worked, using a connector that already came with the stock samsug firmware.

    4. Re:Office 365 support too? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Huh, maybe it's my university's poxy credentials then.

      I tried the gmail app and it redirected to a login screen and then wouldn't authenticate. :( With the Outlook app I was up and running in 10 seconds.

  3. I don't think it'll be that useful by danomac · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you can't turn off conversation view. It is annoying on personal email but I deal with it (conversation view buggers up threads, splitting up emails where they shouldn't be as an example), but that would be intolerable on work email.

    For those using Exchange for access to work email, Touchdown is a better paid-for solution that won't erase your phone with work policies, they're only applied to the Touchdown app itself. That makes it worth the price right there.

    1. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is the interface on Touchdown?

      The last time I touched it was around the Jellybean days and it still looked like a Gingerbread application.

    2. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Touchdown is a better paid-for solution that won't erase your phone with work policies, they're only applied to the Touchdown app itself. That makes it worth the price right there.

      Or the Nine android app, which has a much better layout and easier configuration than Touchdown.

    3. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nine is wondrous good as well; I like it a bit better than Touchdown.

    4. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, now I use Nine as it has an amazing interface and much better functionality.

    5. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      Add in that every Android device I have ever owned has been able to talk ActiveSync to an Exchange server in like forever via the standard Mail app it is even less useful.

      The headline makes it sound like you have not been able to connect to an Exchange server previously.

    6. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by danomac · · Score: 1

      Touchdown very recently had an update to its interface. It looks like a modern app now, but I've noticed at least one glitch in Calendar view - it doesn't colour code my appointments. They're presumably working on a fix.

      They've also retained the old control panel for tweaking all of its settings.

    7. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by danomac · · Score: 1

      The headline was referring to conversation view, which you can't turn off in the Gmail app. I've been using Touchdown to access work email for 5 years (or more?)

      The standard Mail app on phones stink. For a long time you couldn't even invite people to appointments. Some have rectified that now, though.

      However, Touchdown controls its own notifications and I've set it to not notify on non-working hours (evenings and weekends, set to different schedules each day.) I know the Gmail app doesn't have that, the notifications are on or off.

      I just checked the Gmail app's options, and they've got a conversation view option now. I've unchecked it, and it doesn't do anything. Why have the option there if it doesn't do anything??

    8. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by SScorpio · · Score: 1

      Microsoft's Outlook for Android is also another option, and it's free.

      I prefer its calendar to the default Google Calendar app. It was originally a 3rd party Calendar that Microsoft bought and merged it into Outlook. I think it was originally called Sunrise or something like that.

    9. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by jofas · · Score: 1

      Touchdown is old, badly coded and sucks. Event the now-deprecated Android Mail client does a better job.

    10. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by jofas · · Score: 1

      The standard Mail app is no longer supported. The GMail app is the mail app now.

    11. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft's Outlook for Android is also another option, and it's free.

      Outlook for Android is a bad idea.

      You install the app on your phone, then give your email credentials to Microsoft. Microsoft connects to your email server for you, grabs all your email, then sends it to the Outlook for Android app.

      Do you trust Microsoft that much? I don't.

    12. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by Nunya666 · · Score: 1

      Add in that every Android device I have ever owned has been able to talk ActiveSync to an Exchange server in like forever via the standard Mail app it is even less useful.

      The headline makes it sound like you have not been able to connect to an Exchange server previously.

      I was thinking the exact same thing.

      The only real news is that Google fanboys (if there are any) can now use their favorite email app to access their Exchange email.

    13. Re: I don't think it'll be that useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, which is a shame as I liked the Gmail/Mail, home/work separation. The two apps had different inbox widgets, different colours etc... It was nice.

      Then Mail was gone and Gmail supported exchange and merged it all into a messy red mass.

      I use Nine now. It is great.

    14. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A checkbox to turn on/off Conversation View is literally the first option under General Settings. Just FYI.

    15. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by danomac · · Score: 1

      And it doesn't work, just FYI. It literally changes nothing. Have you actually tried it? I have, it doesn't work.

    16. Re:I don't think it'll be that useful by steveo777 · · Score: 1

      Touchdown...

      I've never been interested in having Exchange in my phone's email client because the email clients built in with most Androids suck.. I bought Touchdown years ago because it was built to talk to Exchange and it worked very well.

      Gmail is pretty good, but I'm still not interested in merging my Exchange account with it because then my phone becomes completely subject to my workplace's rules and regulations on mobiles. Touchdown keeps that separate and I like it that way. Hell, I have a company phone and I STILL use Touchdown. If some idiot Exchange admin F's up a powershell command to wipe some dude's phone and ends up wiping everyone named Steve's phone**, I don't have to worry because only my Touchdown partition is affected. And any personal stuff I have on the device (for better or worse) is unaffected. Yay.

      **This HAS happened at a company where I warned the head of IT that the guy they just made a domain admin was not ready for that responsibility. Not a week goes by before he force wiped all phones belonging to anyone named Christine. Out of 1200 users. Fun day!

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  4. Though without native POP support,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish my ISP supported IMAP (Are you listening Verizon? Oh, of course not.) but they don't. Only POP. And Gmail app says you can support POP accounts by adding them to your Live email account and accessing them via Exchange, ... but you can't access them directly from the app. Oh. No thank you. Deep sigh.

    1. Re:Though without native POP support,,, by jofas · · Score: 1

      POP? Who the hell still rolls out POP? The default for Exchange has been MAPI forever...

    2. Re:Though without native POP support,,, by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      (Are you listening Verizon? Oh, of course not.)

      They can't hear you now.

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    3. Re:Though without native POP support,,, by ledow · · Score: 1

      Bigger question:

      Then why the hell are you using your ISP mailbox?

      I mean, come on. This is Slashdot. Stump up a pittance, buy a domain name and either forward it to whatever you want (e.g. GMail) or stick a mailbox on it for another pittance.

      And then you aren't tied into whatever your ISP wants to give you for email, especially if someday they are bought up, sold off, or just plain decide to stop doing email.

  5. Will it work with certificates now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The gmail app on nexus devices has been terrible in terms of client certificate support for exchange activesync.

    It worked perfectly in android 4.4 on nexus devices, and starting with 5.0 it was broken.

    Google's tech support on this is completely useless, they just say, "Talk to your exchange administrator."

    Oddly enough, samsung devices running android 5.0 or later don't use the "gmail" code to connect to exchange activesync, and samsung phones work perfectly with client certificates.

    If this means that non-nexus devices will now use gmail to connect to activesync this is a big step backward.

  6. What's wrong with outlook? by pablo_max · · Score: 1

    On my android phone I use the MS Outlook app and find it to be actually pretty good. I can turn off the conversation view, which I hate and I get access to all the same folders I have at my desktop. Plus, it's free with office.
    I know there are a lot of people who would like to put everything into one bucket, but personally I do not want my private emails anywhere near my work emails.
    The worst part of having my MS Exchange emails going to my gmail inbox would be the weekends.
    I would see that there are emails from work when I checked my gmail and then I would feel obligated to read them and the feel obligated to actually do something.
    No... I prefer to not know I have an email until Monday, when I turn notifications back on.

    1. Re:What's wrong with outlook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft's Outlook for Android is also another option, and it's free.

      Outlook for Android is a bad idea for most people.

      You install the app on your phone, then give your email credentials to Microsoft. Microsoft connects to your email server for you, grabs all your email, then sends it to the Outlook for Android app.

      Do you trust Microsoft that much? I don't.

    2. Re:What's wrong with outlook? by spacepimp · · Score: 1

      Some jobs aren't afforded the luxury of "it was a weekend, I don't do weekends" as a response to certain work emergencies. I can't even imagine a job that I would be so casual about that the thought of accidentally seeing a work email is the source of my worries. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're wrong, perhaps I should switch career fields.

    3. Re:What's wrong with outlook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried the Outlook app, thinking it would do fine. The install required incredibly deep permissions that I was just not going to hand over on my device. It was practically a rootkit.

      I for one am glad the Gmail app now supports Exchange on my device, especially the calendar, whish is the ONE feature that I absolutely my consolidate across my personal and work email accounts.

    4. Re:What's wrong with outlook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I couldn't imagine a job in a critical position where you are required to baby sit emails all weekend. If there is a critical issue you better be calling me and leaving a voicemail if i don't pick up the call.

    5. Re:What's wrong with outlook? by pablo_max · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, I am inclined to call bullshit on this.

      I have both the gmail app and outlook installed. If I look into permissions, they have exactly the same level of permissions. With the latest version of android you can even turn off those with a simple toggle.

    6. Re:What's wrong with outlook? by acoustix · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:What's wrong with outlook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only mail app on android i have found that can open an .emf file, which is what you get if you attach a bunch of messages to a mail, is nine, none of the others can do it, not even the outlook app, go figure.....

  7. Authentication by allquixotic · · Score: 1

    Most corporate Exchange servers are either behind a VPN or proxy; have some third-party authentication wrapper (or even worse, an in-house custom one); or straight up don't let you access it without being hard-wired to their network with a "blessed" computer.

    Most people who use an Exchange server for work won't be able to use this...

    1. Re:Authentication by ledow · · Score: 1

      Er.... and your point is?

      VPN is perfectly doable for any major VPN protocol (including OpenVPN) on a bog-standard, unrooted Android device.

      And those people who are using, say, the other Exchange capable apps on their phone will use it. Like, say, all the Samsung apps that do just this. Or something like TouchDown (is that being sold still since it was sold to Symantec?).

      So precisely those people who a) have an android phone and er... b) want to, can connect to an Exchange server. This just ties it into the GMail app rather than someone else's.

    2. Re:Authentication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But at least Google will get the "backup" of user name+password to the corporate environment while the people try to connect to their corporate exchange.

  8. Doesn't Sync Notes by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

    The four main features in Outlook are Mail, Contacts, Calendar, and Notes, but for some reason apps like this don't support Notes. It's the same on my iPhone 6 Plus, I have to use a 3rd party app to sync Notes with Exchange.

    1. Re:Doesn't Sync Notes by jader3rd · · Score: 1

      Give it up, and migrate all of your notes to OneNote.

    2. Re:Doesn't Sync Notes by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes. OneNote to rule them all.

      Then I should upload them all to The Cloud, right?

    3. Re:Doesn't Sync Notes by jader3rd · · Score: 1

      Then I should upload them all to The Cloud, right?

      If you'd like to. Your notes are already based on a server, so I don't see there being a big philosophical reason between having the notes be on Exchange, vs a OneNote saved/synced to SharePoint.

  9. wake me when end-to-end crypto is supported by ad454 · · Score: 1

    End-to-end crypto solutions on the client side, such as S/MIME & PGP have existed for nearly 20 years.

    But for Android users, there is simply no decent e-mail app in which supports this type of required security in Google Play store, while also supporting office365 (required for work), tablet mode, and threaded message viewing.

    Stock mail app, Gmail, Outlook, Touchdown, Nine, etc., none of these apps meet of these criteria. And don't mention Samsung Knox, which is only available with stock Samsung ROM on its hardware, and won't install or work with custom ROM's on its hardware such as cyanogenmod.

    I very much prefer Android over iOS, but wished there was at least one decent and secure android mail app which meet my criteria, the way that iOS stock mail app does. Not to mention having the extremely handy in-app file attachment preview of pdf, word, powerpoint, excel, etc. which iOS stock mail app provides.

    If any decent Android mail app ever does go on sale, I would be happy to pay up to $100 for it, especially for something close to iOS stock mail app. Since this would be a bargain compared to switching back to iOS just for decent mail.

  10. Attack of the Gmail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I take this as a sign that Google is feeling the heat of Microsoft's increasingly competitive mobile apps.

    Gmail and Gmail mobile added exchange support shortly after their respective launches. Realistically, they had to. If you want to ultimately convert people from Exchange to Gmail, you have to make everything work together for as long as the user wants. In late 2012, after some squabbling with Microsoft and with confidence that Exchange was on a downward trajectory, they stopped supporting Exchange sync. Exchange and Outlook have been super useful for a long time and they've been maintenance headaches since the beginning. Gmail is mostly caught up in terms of enterprise usability, but they have a mindshare and marketing problem with many businesses. Cutting off free support for Exchange was a strategic way to try to pull more users over to Gmail and cut off Microsoft's free ride on the Android platform.

    A year and a half later, Satya Nadella announced that Microsoft is shifting to Mobile-First, Cloud-First. Six months after that, they buy Accompli and turn it into Outlook Mobile. That was the first big salvo. Outlook Mobile is very good. It accomplishes the mission of being the beach-head of Office/365 on Android and makes Microsoft email services competitive on Android. If you add-in Microsoft Next lock screen, it fills a big gap in Android overall usability. I have used a Windows Phone. Its a superior system with an Apps problem. But it does MS Email, Calendar and Office really, really well. Now all of that stuff is working about as well on Android too.*

    Google doesn't really have a choice if they want to keep making their services available to users. Plenty of businesses still prefer to use Outlook/Exchange and Google doesn't want to push** users to stop using Gmail to access their work email. Its really valuable for them to keep having people using the Gmail instead of Outlook on Android.

    * Yes, there's exchange client alternatives for Android. They cost money and basically still suck.
    ** You can reach Exchange on Gmail via IMAP. It sucks.

  11. Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been waiting for this for years. Finally, it's announced the week that the company I work at is starting to roll out migrations away from Exchange and into Google Apps.

  12. It's not about exchange, it's about Activesync by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not about exchange, it's about Activesync protocol.
    Lots of mail systems support it, such as Zarafa and Novell Groupwise (which provides all of the features Exchange does and more).

    The advantage of having it in the GMail app is that you don't have to rely on the build-in version Android, which can be buggy between versions.

    And yes, having mail, contacts and calendar data in one program is a must.

  13. Good for Linux by bitterblackale · · Score: 1

    No need for Outlook or costly exchange plug-ins for thunderbird. No need for MS Office. This pleases me.