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Apple Is Outdated, Says Chinese Conglomerate LeEco CEO (cnbc.com)

An anonymous reader shares an article on CNBC: Apple is "outdated" and losing momentum in China, billionaire entrepreneur Jia Yueting told CNBC in his first international television interview. "Apple only has individual apps. This was the right choice during the first generation of mobile net, when CPUs [central processing units] and the mobile network speeds were not fast enough," Jia said. "However now we're moving into the next era of mobile internet, these problems no longer exist. Moreover, having separate apps just means great obstacles in the user experience. We hope to break down these obstacles. One of the most important reasons [for slowing sales] is that Apple's innovation has become extremely slow," he said. "For example, a month ago Apple launched the iPhone SE. From an industry insider's perspective, this is a product with a very low level of technology... We think this is something they just shouldn't have done. [...] The Watch hasn't cut it. And they're looking at content on the services side, on the iTunes side. We'll see how that works out. But definitely they need something to drive the next leg of growth." In some other Apple news, the company is expected to announce its first quarterly year-over-year revenue decline since 2003 later today.

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  1. This guy is high on Chinese pollution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What is this clown babbling about?

    1. Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's simple - he wants to...

      1) make a super-wrapper app of sorts where individual apps become mere features within his wrapper.
      2) get a lot of attention by yapping about how the industry leader is "outdated" and that his naked money-grab is actually the new-shiny.
      3) sell API access to his wrapper.
      4) sucker some phone maker/carrier/etc into using his wrapper exclusively.
      5) ???
      6) Profit!

      Of course, no mention is made as to what happens when his baby gets a security vuln , crashes (taking everything else with it), or otherwise isn't regularly updated by the carrier or maker (because seriously, outside of a few corner cases involving flagship phones, when was the last time a carrier or maker ever bothered posting/pushing updates to an Android device?)

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    2. Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What is this clown babbling about?

      He thinks the most profitable company in the world should stop what they are doing and do things his way instead.

    3. Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution by DarkOx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well lets consider history for a moment. When the IPhone first came out there was no provision for third party native apps. The idea was it was all going to be essentially HTML5 + JS + [some custom Apple extensions]. Sure 'Apps' might run locally and be sourced from local storage but clearly the reason behind a design choice like that was to stage a move further in the direction this guys is proposing where apps are more cloud based. Guess what it turned out developers did not like and neither did consumers.

      There was a lot to like about the iphone in terms of hardware compared to what came before. Honestly it survived on the strength if its large, easy to use touch screen. Had it not been for that it would have flopped hard and iPhone would not even be a thing today. Apple saw the problem though and quickly and correctly did an about face, allowing developers to deliver fast, high functioning ObjC apps.

      This will be DOA because its not going to come with cool hardware we did not have before.

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    4. Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Honestly it survived on the strength if its large, easy to use touch screen

      And it was the first phone that made browsing the web un-miserable.

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    5. Re:This guy is high on Chinese pollution by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't disagree with you, but that's not how the asian market has developed. And there's definite desire by big US corps to move in that direction- look at how facebook now has a payment option. We'll see how it goes.

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  2. Tell it to Michael Dell by Altus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The comments are about as logical and as coherent as his were.

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    1. Re:Tell it to Michael Dell by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I had quite a hard time following why Apple is outdated, because of individual apps. Did he find a way to SECURELY have apps communicate with each other, without allowing rogue apps to mess with their phone?

      Not to sound like an Apple Fan Boy but Apple had a rather good (Not Perfect) security record with the iPhone and Apps. But there hasn't been too many wide scale problems much like how we have with PC's. A big part of this is the isolated infrastructure of the apps.

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  3. Cash on hand by BitZtream · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Whats your companies valuation and how much cash do all of your companies combined have just laying around to blow when they want to?

    It always amuses me when people who don't have 5% of what Apple has tell us how wrong Apple is in its choices.

    Dear fucking god please let me be THAT WRONG about what people want.

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    1. Re:Cash on hand by macs4all · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just like MS, Apple stole their entire UI idea from Palo Alto.

      Nope. They PAID for that, then took it FAR beyond what Xerox PARC even ENVISIONED.

      They have stolen countless software app ideas over the years from devs.

      And if you have written more than 10 lines of code in your life, so have you, me, and EVERY other Developer. Next!

      Ipod. Stolen. Then refined with a better interface.

      So NOT "Stolen". Refined. So, as another Poster said, Porsche "stole" the CAR from "Ford", right?

      Ipad. Stolen. Then reality distortion field'ed into being 'revolutionary'.

      Stolen? From WHAT, exactly??? Those POS "Slabs" that ran Windows for about 45 minutes and weight 10 pounds? See Porsche, above.

      Iphoney. Stolen. Then reality distortion field'ed into being 'revolutionary'.

      Again, Really? Who STOLE from WHO, again?

      MB Air. Stolen. Then reality distortion field'ed into being 'revolutionary'.

      Stolen? Again, from WHO? If you count "Netbooks" as "Prior Art" for the MBA, you might as well count the horse and buggy "prior art" for the Tesla.

      Apple TC. Stolen. Then reality distortion field'ed into being 'revolutionary'.

      TC? Time Capsule? How does that even make the list? It is nothing more than an obvious marriage of a WiFi Router and a Hard Drive for Time Machine Backups of several machines in the same household. But it isn't "Stolen".

      Apple Watch. Stolen. Then they tried but failed to make it into being 'revolutionary'.

      Everybody and his dog was more or less simultaneously working on Smart Watches. Apple's is cooler than most, because of the infrastructure it shares. But I don't think that anyone particularly "Stole" stuff from anyone else. There are only so many ways to do a SmartWatch. That's why they are ALL so similar. But seriously, STOLE???

  4. "billionaire entrepreneur" by friesofdoom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The way some of these "billionaire entrepreneurs" talk really makes me think that they got to where they are with pure luck and no knowledge or skill in the area they are involved in...

  5. Re:Cash on hand & Dividends by BoRegardless · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When sales settle down, dividends come into play.

    You can't grow at 25% per year for a decade, from Apple's existing point or it will have sales 10 times what it has today which would be over $5 Trillion market cap.