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In Internet Age, Pirate Radio Arises As Surprising Challenge (ap.org)

K7DAN writes: Just as the demise of terrestrial radio has been greatly exaggerated, so has the assumed parallel death of pirate radio. Due to the failure of licensed stations to meet the needs of many niche communities, pirate radio continues to increase in popularity. Helping facilitate this growth is the weakening power of the FCC to stop it, reports the Associated Press. Rogue stations can cover up to several square miles thanks largely in part to cheaper technology. The appeal? "The DJs sound like you and they talk about things that you're interested in," said Jay Blessed, an online DJ who has listened to various unlicensed stations since she moved from Trinidad to Brooklyn more than a decade ago. "You call them up and say, 'I want to hear this song,' and they play it for you," Blessed said. "It's interactive. It's engaging. It's communal." It's upsetting many congressional members who are urging the FCC to do more about the "unprecedented growth of pirate radio operations." They're accusing said pirates of undermining licensed minority stations while ignoring consumer protection laws that guard against indecency and false advertising.

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  1. Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by blankinthefill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've always wanted to start a pirate radio station just for shits and giggles, and doubly so after watching 'The Boat That Rocked" (watch this one, the UK release, not the US version "Pirate Radio", imo.) The fact that it is apparently infuriating to certain members of congress would just be icing on the the cake...

    1. Re: Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      London has more pirate radio now than it did when "Radio London" was being broadcast from a ship moored in the north sea.

      Current radio pirates are putting transmitters on random rooftops getting power spliced from street lighting, and sending the audio over prepay 3g dongles. Whenever they get found, they're replaced almost immediately on a different roof.

      They seem to be funded by paid promotion of night clubs and minicab companies.

    2. Re: Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by Rob+Lister · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We would be without useful radio, television, cell phones--or any other RF-based utility--as we know them today. The airwaves are a finite [public] resource that requires strict regulation to maintain usefulness. If you don't like the way they're governed, change the government. Until then, I applaud enforcing the existing laws.

    3. Re: Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by Rob+Lister · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ...we would have developed tech to have radio broadcast in non interfering ways

      If you know of some technology that achieves that and still allows the utility we currently enjoy, do share.

      ... folks would have slid into non overlapping slots in the meantime

      What does finite resource mean to you? There is already a far, far greater demand for slots than there are available slots. Without regulation every slot becomes unusable.

    4. Re: Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by silentcoder · · Score: 3, Informative

      >we would have developed tech to have radio broadcast in non interfering ways

      And when we were done with that, we'd have developed anti-gravity devices and eternal motion machines to generate power with.

      You can't get around the laws of physics. We live in a quantum universe and there is a finite number of frequencies that can exist and absolutely zero way for two things broadcasting on the same frequency not to interfere.
      Maybe we may have developed wifi likes ways of telling sources appart - but that was only possible AFTER we developed networking protocols and digital electronics, both of which depended hugely on tech for early radio to get their start - there is no reasonable way to claim the opposite would have been possible. Digital broadcasting does allow you to put more signals in a smaller band, but we couldn't get there until digital devices got small - which took a long time. Radio was already prominent in homes in the 1940s - when computers took up entire basements.

      Not all public resources can be privatized effectively. And many never should. So how do you then avoid the tragedy of the commons ? The only solution is to regulate access so that nobody can abuse it.

      By the way - you know what would happen if you build an early Marconi/Tesla style morse-transmitter and operated it right now ? You would fill every TV and radio in 3-block radius with static - on *every* channel. It took time to develop tuners.

      Are you seriously suggesting we would have been better off if nobody could operate commercial radio devices until AFTER we developed fine-tuning abilities ? Or if the airwaves, all of them on all channels, simply belonged to whoever bought the strongest transmitter and antenna ? Why would anybody have bothered at all ? You go invest thousands in the equipment to get a station online, and somebody else decides he would rather have your listeners and spends a little more and your entire investment is down the drain - unless you invest even more and build bigger, but then they can too. Every market would either have had no broadcasts at all, or only the broadcasts from whichever broadcaster had the richest investor.

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    5. Re: Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by ogdenk · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What does finite resource mean to you? There is already a far, far greater demand for slots than there are available slots. Without regulation every slot becomes unusable.

      Maybe where YOU live but where I live there's only 3 stations and they all suck. There's LOTS of unused spectrum here but micropower pirate radio wouldn't give you more than 3 listeners since your coverage area would be mostly trees.

      Generally pirates do their best to NOT interfere with licensed stations and EAS systems. Stomping on licensed broadcasts is how you get unwanted attention. It's in their best interest to not be a dick. In places like NYC this can be tough though as the spectrum is crowded there. Using a 100W transmitter to cover a small town in the middle of nowhere however, it's pretty easy to play nice with others. The only way you'll get busted that way is if you violate decency laws or manage to steal listeners (or even worse, advertisers) from legit stations.

      This isn't about protecting the spectrum, this is about protecting advertising dollars for ClearChannel. Local community radio is DEAD. Pirate radio is about the only way to avoid listening to canned satellite-fed syndicated bullshit. Large broadcasters fought against LPFM so hard that they effectively killed it.

    6. Re: Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by operagost · · Score: 2

      I live in Philadelphia, and there are vast stretches of the FM dial that are devoid of signal. If the third largest radio market has room for low power stations, it's likely nearly all of them do.

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    7. Re: Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by postbigbang · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rich? No.

      Think about community public radio stations. Consider those that make investments into for-profit ones, too.

      Like other confined resources, there is only so much spectrum. It's juvenile to believe that a 100w station doesn't interfere with others.

      Yes, some stations trade for major bucks. It's called: business. Still others are community supported.

      Want the facts? Grow up and understand how we got here, and that the radio waves aren't a private little party. Wanna be a DJ? You can be. Wanna serve your sense of community? You can. There are lots of legal indy radio stations out there. They play by a set of rules designed to allow sharing of the airwaves, through the same set of rules that all people to have FM receivers and HD receivers with great audio fidelity.

      People that live within the constraints of civility understand the need for rules-- because there are lots of people that desire to do whatever the fuck they want for any reason they want, e.g. uncivil behavior. I don't believe in mandated conformance but I do believe in civil rules regarding finite resources.

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    8. Re: Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by sjames · · Score: 2

      You mean other than that if you are stepping on someone else's signal, they are stepping on yours as well.

    9. Re: Sounds like a good time to get in on the game by maird · · Score: 2

      It isn't necessary to get around the laws of physics. In a world with no regulation of useful radio waves live VHF and modulation schemes that permit about 20kHz of stereo music we would have cheaply developed something like an on-air registration service on a fixed frequency (or that was easy to find on-air) that allows random stations to launch their transmitter, register it with some info for receivers and operate on a quiet frequency in the band. Then end-users would start a receiver that looked at the registration service for something interesting to listen to and tune to it's registered frequency. i.e. What the OP suggested.

  2. Desperate need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    " ignoring consumer protection laws that guard against indecency"

    The 1950s are over. The airwaves are in desperate need of shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker and tits.

    1. Re:Desperate need by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Howard stern brought those.... and the FCC targeted him only. So he moved to Sirius/XM and now has more subscribers than COMCAST has because it is outside the regulatory world of the FCC.

      This is where the future lies, things that are outside of the FCC's rules from the 1940's -1960's that were put in place by republicans wanting to save the children from talk about nipples. It's why internet radio is growing rapidly as is satellite.

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  3. Re:This is a problem, why? by advocate_one · · Score: 4, Insightful

    how about reviewing the licensing and all the other petty laws restricting the community?

    Don't forget, all those rules are only there to protect the incumbents from newcomers... regulatory capture to impose costs on them...

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  4. Who? by stephanruby · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who are these lucky constituents that won't have to worry about false advertising anymore?

    You have to admire those Members of Congress, they go after the most hard-to-find targets first. It doesn't matter if those "pirate" radio stations only reach 0.0005% of their own constituency or operate just a couple of hours a month with little or no advertising of any kind. You have to admire the kind of motivation those Members of Congress have at wanting to stamp out those tiny little cockroaches.

    If I were the shopping channel network, or ABC, or an internet advertising agency, I would be shaking in my boots right now. After all, if those Members of Congress spend so much of their time and energy going after those little guys, it's only a matter of time before they start noticing all the false advertising going on the biggest licensed television and radio networks, with diamond dealers, phone carriers, cable providers, weight loss products, Duracell batteries, and the list goes on...

  5. Re:After this post... by Gussington · · Score: 3, Informative

    Slashdot has a far smaller readership than it did a decade ago. I don't think the "Slashdot effect" is a real thing anymore.

    This probably has more to do with the fact that most web servers these days are no longer behind 128k ISDN lines...

  6. obZZ by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Do you remember
    back in nineteen sixty-six?
    Country Jesus, hillbilly blues,
    that's where I learned my licks.
    Oh, from coast to coast and line to line
    in every county there,
    I'm talkin' 'bout that outlaw X
    is cuttin' through the air.

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  7. Re:This is a problem, why? by silentcoder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > It is also the battle cry against big government. Just enough to be effective without being a burden to freedom or prosperity.

    Except that this is an absolutely impossible goal. You can't make government smaller. It is a guaranteed disaster. Whenever you try - you just create a power-vaccuum which is readily filled by somebody else. Initially, this is mostly corporations. As you reduce government size towards your mythic level (which is always described but never defined because those who say it will NEVER reach a level they consider "right") the power of those stepping into the resulting vaccuum grows and corporate executives get replaced by warlords (often the same person).

    Now you either end up with a bunch of competing warlords in an endless civil war and your "official government" too small and helpless to actually do anything about it (ala Somalia), or one warlord actually manages to amass enough to quell all the others and you end up with a dictatorship.

    The power you fear in big government is GOING to be wielded, there is NOTHING that ANYBODY could do to stop that. The only choice you DO have, is whether it will be wielded by a representative government accountable to you as a voter, or any of the everything else's which are all MUCH worse.

    This is one reason I am an anarchist. As such I support the biggest government of them all. A government so large that EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN is an equal member of that government. 100% of the population large. And therefore, much less able to oppress anybody - while having both the will and the power to quell oppression from others.

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  8. Re:After this post... by arth1 · · Score: 2

    This probably has more to do with the fact that most web servers these days are no longer behind 128k ISDN lines...

    Being behind a tiny pipe like ISDN would help prevent the web server from being overwhelmed. The pipe would be saturated, and temporary slowness and timeouts would happen, but in most cases the servers would be just fine.
    With backbone-connected colos, on the other hand, we started to see servers going down, and returning error messages at best, or be out for the day.
    As web servers and their hardware improved, unfortunately, content shifted too and were no longer on the actual web server. High traffic started taking down the back-ends.
    Then single-sign-on happened. And for a short time it became possible to slashdot mulltiple sites or companies, before SSO improved too.

    Three steps for the worse, before it started to get better.

    I kind of miss the days when a small pipe meant that what went over it was pared down to the essentials. Like text and only minimal illustrative images, like in a book. 4k of text can convey a heck of a lot more signal than 40 MB of video, and be spread faster.

  9. Congress is 100% at fault for this. by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    Those fuckers killed the low power FM license because they catered to Clear channel and their other benefactors.

    All of the pirate radio "problem" is 100% the fault of Congress. Those are the scumbags that need to be fined and put in jail first.

    Give us an affordable low power FM license ability and 95% of those pirate stations would go legit.

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  10. Tips for a pirate radio operator... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    First you need to build your radio station into a box that you can place at the top of a taller building. get one of the 10-20 watt china transmitters and build a nice 5/8's wave antenna like a J pole out of copper pipe. putall of it inside a sealed plastic box and use a raspberry PI for the audio source.

    Now use a USB stick to hold your radio station audio files plug it all in and splice into power you can find up there. if you paint it all to look like it belongs it will not get dismantled for years.

    Bonus points, give it a WIFI accesspoint so you can simply drive there and point a gain antenna at the location to upload new content.

    Now when the FCC raids the station you will not get arrested as it's not your property and if you are smart you have no evidence behind that it's yours. Yes you are out your $400 of gear (if you buy good stuff with filters) but that is a lot cheaper than the $40,000 fine and possible jail time.

    Social engineer your way in to set it up. you are here from dish network, etc....

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    1. Re:Tips for a pirate radio operator... by NixieBunny · · Score: 2

      I actually built and ran a pirate radio station in Tucson 15-20 years ago, Radio Limbo 103.3. I agree with your tip, but I took it a step further. The transmitter was a 1 watt unit that we hiked way up into the mountains north of town, giving it a 3000 foot elevation advantage. We transmitted through a Yagi made from a modified FM receiving antenna. The uplink was on UHF, and the rig was solar powered. It covered most of the city (about a 10 mile radius in the preferred direction) reasonably well.

      The other thing we did, which really made the station great, was to get about a hundred DJs to volunteer for 1 or 2 hour slots, to make the programming interesting.

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  11. Stranger Danger by JimSadler · · Score: 2

    As a youth back in 1960 I built a radio broadcast rig and used it for only a very few minutes before cars with funny antennas and a helicopter started searching my block. I rushed to unplug the rig and get it one mile away and turn it on at a friends house for a few seconds to keep the searchers from triangulating my location. I was astounded at the speed at which there was a response. It is hard to imagine how pirate stations are able to exist these days. One way might be to run it from the back of a van that is kept in motion.

  12. I ran a pirate radio once... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

    it was fun. But what was even more fun was trolling Clear Channel, when we went into their local corporate HQ to talk about marketing...and I brought up their repeated helping the FCC in busting "pirate radio" stations. Just do a search of "clear channel busting pirate radio" and you'll find scores of stories. Once they even set up a media server to capture a signal and sent the link to the FCC along with the complaint. NPR is also an opponent of low-power FM. But, be warned, Clear Channel will aggressively pursue any signals they can find and have a very cozy relationship with the FCC enforcement arm.

    1. Re:I ran a pirate radio once... by Gilgaron · · Score: 2

      It is funny how enforcement works in industry, I worked in a food QA lab for a while and was surprised at the number of competitors products we received. I found out that they ran chemistry authenticity on it and would report to the government if they were lying about the contents, nutrition info, etc.

  13. Re:This is a problem, why? by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

    To many conservatives, the "optimal government size" is one that operates solely in their benefit and is basically a "middle man contract placement system" to private entities that do all the real work. They want everything to be privatized; because they believe they would be the ones who own those corps. A computer system that matched up governmental tasks to private corporate bidders would probably be enough. No "social services" because if your "wealthy" then you don't need them and screw everyone else. I would say that humans are the dominate species BECAUSE of our cooperation, sharing resources, and empathy...but many conservatives don't believe in evolution and think we humans sprung fully-formed, talking and writing, from dust and a rib-bone...and that human activity can't ever have any lasting effects on the planet because God gave us dominion over the Earth so it's ours to do whatever we want to with.

  14. Re: Anarchy by silentcoder · · Score: 2

    Direct democracy is a synonym for anarchism

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  15. Re:This is a problem, why? by silentcoder · · Score: 2

    I actually agree with you. The size of the government is utterly unimportant. Even the taxrate is mostly unimportant.

    What does matter is whether the government does a good job, wheher you get decent value for your taxes. As long as whatever your taxes buy would have cost you more in the private sector, or be worse quality, or both (as in the case of healthcare), it's better to buy it with more taxes because even though your taxrate is higher - you spend less money - it also has the advantage that you can provide these services to people who would not be able to access them in the private sector.

    That really IS an advantage for everybody. Take healthcare again: making healthcare universally available means your odds of being infected with some virulent plague is greatly reduced because it can't spread like wildfire among an untreated homeless population who can't afford to be treated for it (and thus slip through the radar of quarantine systems and the like).
    Same goes with things like water supply. Making sure everybody has access to clean, fresh water protects the entire population from diseases like cholera.

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