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Windows Desktop Market Share Drops Below 90% (venturebeat.com)

An anonymous reader quotes VentureBeat's new article about desktop operating systems: Windows 7 is still the king, but it no longer holds the majority. Nine months after Windows 10's release, Windows 7 has finally fallen below 50 percent market share and Windows XP has dropped into single digits. While this is good news for Microsoft, April was actually a poor month for Windows overall, which for the first time owned less than 90 percent of the market, according to the latest figures from Net Applications.

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  1. So what's replacing it? by negRo_slim · · Score: 5, Interesting
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  2. the invasive spying of windows 10 by FudRucker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is when microsoft really shot themselves in the foot, people are generally low info and naive but with windows 10 microsoft really let the joe & jane sixpack what blatant spies and abusers of personal info microsoft is, i can see microsoft's user base continuing to erode until they are down below 30% of the internet population

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  3. I think the Mac is replacing it in many cases .... by King_TJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The stats on hardware sales for the last couple years kept indicating slumps in most Windows PC maker's sales, with Apple the only hardware manufacturer still reporting good sales figures.

    At some point, if more people keep buying new Macs instead of new Windows machines, we should see the OS usage stats changing for Windows too.

    I don't doubt a number of people also went to Linux when they got frustrated with things about Windows 10. But statistically, I doubt it made the dent that OS X did. (One of my friends just dumped Win 10 in favor of the latest Ubuntu, but he's already angry with some issues he ran into with it. So not sure he'll keep it....)

    Unfortunately, Apple seem to be its own worst enemy right now, since it's more interested in converting people to iOS on iPads than convincing them to get new Mac desktops or laptops. I guess anything's possible, but I truly think the idea that tablets will replace PCs for people is a big mistake. Think of corporate America, where people spend most of the day using a computer from a desk. Why compromise with some sort of tablet in that scenario? People want multiple, large monitors for better productivity and less eye-strain. That, in turn, requires more powerful graphics cards to push all of the pixels needed to run at those screen resolutions at a good speed. That winds up the weak spot for a tablet form-factor machine. Fast graphics cards require lots of power and give off lots of heat. They don't cram well into flat tablets.

  4. Re:meh by vux984 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The flat-out refusal to have kernel level generic usb3 driver means that all hypervisors running on Win7 must either have their own full USB3 implementation or be limited to USB2. This is just an attempt to get people to upgrade from Win7

    The number of people looking at Windows 7 USB3 support as a hypervisor host is only slightly more people than "just you".

  5. Re: Yeey, less than 90% to go by AK+Marc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I booted to the desktop in Win8, so I didn't see any difference between Win7 and Win8. Those complaining about having to spend a few seconds setting up UI to their preferences would have a much much worse time in Linux. And Win10 isn't bad, so long as you have a touchscreen. It's harder to get to the new features without one.

  6. Re:Yeey, less than 90% to go by Anon-Admin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok, I gave a Fedora CD to the windows guy at work that manages the desktops. He is always saying how easy it is to install Windows. He grabbed an engineering workstations with a 6 core processor, 128g of ram, and high end graphics card. Put the CD in, it asked him 4 or 5 questions and installed. The whole process took less than 20 min and everything worked including the 3Dconnexion SpaceMouse Pro.

    He was in shock and said "That would have taken me 4 or 5 hours with windows!"

    He then grabbed one of the older Dell laptops they give out to the office staff and put it in there. It installed in 20 min and recognized everything including the WiFi card. He admitted that he grabbed that laptop because it is a pain to get windows to work on it and was amazed that linux just installed, came up and worked as expected.

    So, He was not a Linux Zealot, he was the windows desktop guy. I did nothing but watch, and he did everything.

    Linux has come a ling ways in the last 10 years, I have been surprised as just how easy it is to install. You no longer have to be a computer wiz to install it.

  7. Windows XP users upgraded a LONG time ago... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Yep, they bought an iPad or an Android tablet to do all the simple stuff they used to do with a PC. Where are those numbers?

    Developers need a boot in the ass. Windows is not the only game in town. The last time I checked Apple IOS had 800 million users to buy apps and there were 1.5 billion Android users that wanted to buy apps as well. The desktop has been dead for some time. Nobody needs it at home anymore. Did Linux ever hit the desktop? Nope it skipped right to tablets and phones. Where does Microsoft and Intel WANT to be, on the Phones and Tablets.

    The game is over. The PC is a legacy platform.

  8. Re:Yeey, less than 90% to go by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If you are more or less happy with XP you will be ecstatic with Windows 7. But what do you do after Windows 7? Linux, obviously.

    I heard the same cries back in 2011 compared Windows 7 to the anti christ. Ewww IT LOOKS LIKE VISTA THEREFORE IT IS VISTA OMG. In XP in 2001 OMG It is FISHER PRICE. DRM. ACTIVATION HELL NO ... Windows 98 FOR LIFE WILL GO TO LINUX by 2004.

    Funny it is always the last version of WIndows that was the usable one yet time keeps marching on.

    I am not a fanboy. Just live in the real world in the IT field where if I do not know the latest and greatest OS people will assume I am incompetent.

    Drinkypoo if you walked into an executive conference room could you tell the CEO how to log off his Windows 10 Surface? No really. Ill give you a hint it is not where the power options are :-) If you talk about Linux that person will assume you are again incompetent as an IT professional. You either learn the latest and greatest and not fear change or move on.

    Shoot I can't use Windows 7 anymore. My new PC builds have USB 3, NVME SSD support, wireless printing, and other new exotic things Windows 7 is too old to support and 3rd party drivers will not support well. Windows 7 like XP is great for old legacy pcs pre UEFI firmware with mechanical disks, usb2, and 1st generation i5s. New devices are surfaces, tablets, and hybrids that benefit from an up to date kernel with driver stacks and inner workings for Skylake, NVME, UEFI, USB type c, and other technologies.

    I also do not want to use Netflix on a browser either. I prefer to run it as an app on my surface tablet on my desk while I do work. Windows 7 is ancient man and it is time to move on. Linux is great as a server OS to play around in. I run turnkeyLinux for appliances and have a virtual switch running PFSense on Hyper-V.

  9. Re:Yeey, less than 90% to go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On Windows 7, if I plug in a USB stick, keyboard or mouse, I see a popup saying "installing driver"... And I go "WTF are you doing, that thing is class compliant, use the built in driver you moronic operating system".

    If I plug the same thing in a Linux machine, it will use the USB class driver.

    Or did you mean "the only drivers that need to be installed manually".

  10. Re:Yeey, less than 90% to go by KGIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, I did that. In fact, I kept Linux installed on a second partition for a dozen+ years. When asked (and you did not) I recommend against that dual boot thing. I dare say that, with more than a dozen years and as prolific as I write, I've examined this a lot. It is my experience that most people who do the dual booting thing do not actually convert and remain with Linux for any significant length of time. Which is okay, I'm not one to tell someone what OS to use. On the other hand, if you're interested in converting to the dark side, I've noticed most people do better at it when they go all gung-ho.

    To give a bit of history... I came from Unix (more or less). Linux came out and I dicked around with it but I didn't really play with Linux until 1998 or so? It was about the time where I was comfortable with Windows at home and on some of the machines at the office. Everything else was usually from Sun. :) SunOS and Solaris were good to me and the hardware was fantastic but I'm trying to not digress too much.

    Still, I liked the idea of Linux. I kept it installed on nearly every computer that I owned that had space. I preferred to put it on a second drive so often would buy (and still do) larger laptops for the express purpose of having a second drive bay. Yet, I didn't boot into it except to update it and try new things in it. Once in a while, I'd use if exclusively for a few months. Sometimes? I'd only use it for a day. Maybe even less - just long enough to break something and not feel like fixing it. Stuff like that.

    During this time, with Linux installed on a 2nd drive or partition, I actually was awarded the MS MVP for more than a half-dozen years and in a variety of categories. I still had, even then, every intention to move to Linux. No... I didn't... I'd find something that looked interesting and I'd boot up a second machine or reboot the one I was on and boot to Linux. I'd get frustrated or bored and I'd just go back to Windows on the next boot. More often than not, I'd have broken something (which is actually how I learn) and then I'd just do a re-install or try a new distro and repeat the process - over a period of months, then years, then over a decade.

    Then, in a fit of frustration, I realized what I had to do. How many files do you have stored that are cryptically named "setup.exe" or "install.zip?" How many copies of CCleaner.exe do you have? Do you even know what they are any more?

    I was frustrated because I'm aging and, I swear, I can feel my brain plasticize. I wasn't learning anything new with Windows. Yes, it feels nice to have been recognized as an MVP and all that but that's not nearly as rewarding as it is to actually figure out something new and to learn something different. It's not as rewarding to know a bunch about the registry. What is rewarding is to figure out learning the ins-and-outs of something new. What is rewarding is finding new ways to approach problems and new ways to solve them. I was not learning anything new about Windows.

    So, I guess you can say that I've used Linux for years but I've been a Linux user for only... Hmm... Just a couple or years now. I use Linux exclusively and I've gotta be going on a couple of years at it now. I do have a Windows phone, I guess that's not Linux but Android's not very much like a desktop Linux either. (I'm eagerly awaiting some reports on the new Ubuntu phone. I did pre-order a tablet. I should check on that.) I have pretty much used Linux exclusively on my home servers for much longer than that - but not on the desktop. It's not like I was a n00b coming into it or anything - but, still, there is much to learn even now.

    Just delete everything. Save any personal documents. Wipe your drives. Burn all your Windows installs to the ground. Delete all those installers that you'll never need again. Then, no matter what, don't look back. Don't even install Windows in a VM. Screw it... Unless you have a compelling need, don't do it. That is, if you want to actually switch and stay switched. I h

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